progressive hunter
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sorry but I'm not interested in your story,,more so since you think that societies that murdered well over 100 million people are civilized,,,good morals is all thats needed for a civilized society to exist,,,hitler, stalin and moa had authority to do what they did,,,the opposite of authority is no authority,,Yeah, of course. Like the hundreds of thousands of people that die attempting to escape those socialist paradises that you want here.Leave it to one of you mentally enslaved to not get the point.For some strange reason the racist white propagandists in the media minimize the officer's name from the HYPED news."driving suspiciously"???Why would he run the plates? Did the guy do something wrong? How did he know who was in the car?
If there are no active calls they'll run plates at random. Sometimes they'll do it if the driver is driving suspiciously.
what does that even mean???
thats a reason right there to not trust cops,,,
Timothy McVeigh was caught because a sharp eyed trooper noticed he was driving suspiciously .
Ignoramus
He stopped him because the car he was driving didn't have a license. Interesting enough, even though he was doing something illegal he told the officer he had a loaded handgun and didn't get killed unlike Philandro Castillo who had done nothing wrong.
Jeronimo Yanez is the name.
Guess why that name isn't repeated over and over and over and over again.
You know what? Don't. Please go tell some Africans how bad it is for you in America.
Thousands protest after Philando Castile shooting verdict; 18 arrested
Have you prepared your escape to Cuba from this land of tyranny? Let us know how things work out.
I'm not going anywhere. You work to change what is wrong with where you are.
You really are stooge of white liberal propaganda. Go find an actual African and tell him how bad things are here in America with 7 Elevens and KFC restaurants and how bad it is for commie Kaepernick who is being paid $50 million dollars as a virtue signaling victim by a company that has a well documented horrific reputation of labor practices with their factories in Vietnam and Pakistan.
They may need to be more disgusted by you than they already are.
You know how pawns work in Chess?
You are the one arguing the authoritarian position.
You know what the opposite of having authority is? Chaos and anarchy.
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Yeah, we need authority, to have a civilized society. His argument is a good one. Your argument sucks.
and it has nothing to do with a civilized society as we have seen in all the fascist and communist societies/countries,,,
Sure it does. You can't have a civilized society, without authority.
are you saying those were civilized societies???
Extremely civilized. Especially in Stalins Russia, crime was virtually non-existent. People were polite, and people were very civilized.
Because obviously if you were not civilized in Stalin's Russia, you ended up in a gulag.
Mao was the same. Hitler was the same. Germany was very civilized. So was China.
If you want to see what uncivilized is, look at Sudan, or Rwanda in the 90s. When the police basically left the area, and people walked around with machetes, and cut people to be ribbons, and laughed and enjoyed it.
Having no authority results in looting riots killing.
Even oppressive and abusive authority is better than chaos and anarchy.
But you seem to be implying that wanting authority, means Stalin Mao, and Hitler.
Ridiculous. We want absolute authority, within the confines of protecting people's rights.
For example Singapore. Singapore has one of the toughest and most well enforced laws in the world. You are safer in Singapore, than almost any tourist destination in the world.
In a city of 5 million, they have less than 10 murders a year, and sometimes zero.
But people are not being shipped off to gulags, like Stalin, or gas-showers like Hitler, or being rolled over by tanks, like China.
Yet they have strict clear authority. You come to Singapore transporting drugs, you get hanged. They don't mess around. You vandalize a bunch of cars in Singapore, you get cained.
When a dumb US student went to Singapore in 1994, and thought he could vandalize property like in the US, where we basically do nothing to them... (or even if they loot and burn half the city it seems).... in Singapore they dragged his but to jail, convicted his dumb butt in court, and sent him to (if I remember right) 40 lashes with a cane.
And they beat that student hard, so he was screaming. Then they let him go.
AND RIGHTLY SO.
This is why the people of Singapore are not oppressed. They are freer than people here in the US. Because they ruthlessly enforce the laws.
We had a lady from Singapore come debate some Americans from New York. The dumb New Yorker woman was sitting there "But you can't do stuff in Singapore, you are not free!"
The Singapore woman responded that she is more free than the New Yorker was. She can go absolutely anywhere in the entire city of Singapore, at any time of the year, at any time of the day, with zero fear of even having a pick pocket, let alone being beaten in central park, or raped or murdered.
Authority is required for civilized society. The more of it you have, the more free and the more civil society becomes.
Welcome to reality. People don't have good morals.
Let me tell you a quick story.
This was 20 years ago now. I was in college. I was working at a Cadillac car dealership, that was across the street from the college.
In class, there was a lady sitting next to me, and we got to talking. One day she found out that I worked at the Cadillac dealership. She ask me, if I could get her one of those gold Cadillac emblems for her son, because he would put in on his backpack for school.
So I mentioned to her, that those emblems are actually rather expensive, but I could get a discount if she wanted me to buy it for her.
"Oh no no, I don't mean buy it. I mean, you know, if you see one that you could get without anyone noticing".
She was asking me to steal it. And this didn't even make her flinch. It was as causal as, if you find a dandelion on the way in, could you pick one for me.
Stealing and thievery, even from the employer that paid my wages, was normal, common, and acceptable in her world. And this lady was a mother raising a son.
You say all you need is morals for civil society to exist.... yeah, and you need enforced laws, to instill in people good morals.
Without laws that are ruthlessly enforced, there will be no morals.
I'll give you two direct examples.
Chicago Crime Spikes As Police Avoid Becoming 'The Next Viral Video'
Chicago police are under scrutiny for misconduct, and arrests and street stops are down. But more than 100 people have already been murdered there in 2016, double the number compared to last year.www.npr.org
Baltimore police stopped noticing crime after Freddie Gray's death. A wave of killings followed.
Baltimore's murder rate reached an all-time high last year. Before that happened, police there suddenly stopped noticing crime.www.usatoday.com
After the riots and protests in Chicago and Baltimore, police dramatically reduced their patrols and policing.
Crime dramatically increased in both areas. Waves of killings and such spread across those areas.
So let me ask you.... did morals magically decline? No. Morals didn't change. Policing did.
The same will happen in cities across America today, as police pull back. We've already seen it.
Business owner near CHOP says calls to 911 went unanswered
While the CHOP has often been portrayed as a street fair by city officials and various media channels, one local business owner has a different story.mynorthwest.com
Called for police 19 times, they refused to show up. They don't want to be charged with murder, after a looter fights with police and ends up shot.
What moral values do you think is spread by this widely publicized story? Looters know nothing will happen. It's now 'safe' to loot places, even if the owner is there, because nothing will happen to them.
If you think all you need is moral values.... then knock yourself out man. Go prove it. Go see how that works for you.
What is funny, is even the anti-police "defund the police" CHAZ people know, that you need law enforcement. That's why they have armed militias patrolling.