My Governor Vetos Pot Oil In Idaho

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I knew there was a reason I voted for him. Twice.

Boise Meridian Nampa Caldwell news by Idaho Statesman

His reasons? It's against federal law. It doesn't explore alternatives. It doesn't address possible criminal use.

Thank you Governor Otter for protecting Idaho when our legislature won't!

 

[Moonglow]

The next elections will have many like him sitting on the sidelines, since he has the ability to block the will of the majority of his state..only temporarily..

 

[September]

Idaho. What an insignificant place. I drove through there this one time and it was exactly as boring, lifeless and plain as I had imagined.

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[Moonglow]

BOISE, Idaho (AP) – Idaho Gov. C.L. “Butch” Otter has vetoed a bill that would have allowed kids with severe forms of epilepsy to treat the disease with oil extracted from marijuana plants.

Read more here: Boise Meridian Nampa Caldwell news by Idaho Statesman

This process of medication removes the psychoactive ingredient for use in the medical procedure...Dumb-asses...ignorant fucks that you have such a closed mind that a medicine is denied that works best for these kids with this condition...

 

[Syriusly]

Here is another article on the issue

Gov. Butch Otter has vetoed SB 1146a, the bill that would have allowed parents of Idaho children with an intractable form of epilepsy to treat their kids with cannabidiol, a non-psychotropic oil that's an extract of cannabis and can halt the children's repeated, extended and life-threatening seizures. The bill passed after lengthy and emotional hearings during this year's legislative session. "Of course I sympathize with the heartbreaking dilemma facing some families trying to cope with the debilitating impacts of disease," Otter wrote in his veto message; you can read it here. But he said there were too many questions about the bill, including from law enforcement and his administration's Office of Drug Policy, which raised concerns that the bill would open the door to legalizing medical marijuana.


"It ignores ongoing scientific testing on alternative treatments," Otter wrote. "It asks us to trust but not to verify. It asks us to legalize the limited use of cannabidiol oil, contrary to federal law. And it asks us to look past the potential for misuse and abuse with criminal intent."


"As an alternative to this legislation, I soon will issue an Executive Order authorizing the Department of Health & Welfare to study, and implement as it deems appropriate, an expanded access program for treatment-resistant epilepsy in children," Otter wrote. "That program has been approved by the Food & Drug Administration."

I have mixed emotions on this- governors have the veto authority to be a final check on bad legislation- but is this bad legislation? I don't know enough about the science to know whether he is vetoing an unsubstantiated treatment option- or whether he is really just an anti-pot reactionary, vetoing a valid treatment option.

 

[Moonglow]

Missouri just passed the same with a majority GOP legislature and the gov signed it...I guess the end of the world is next...

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Idaho. What an insignificant place. I drove through there this one time and it was exactly as boring, lifeless and plain as I had imagined.

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Idaho is a beautiful state if you love the outdoors.
I can see though why you wouldn't care for it though, since it doesn't have tattoo parlors, pot shops, massage parlors, sex clubs, or transsexual clothing shops on every street corner.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I knew there was a reason I voted for him. Twice.

You're bragging about the fact you like to see children suffer? I find that interesting coming from a so-called Christian.

 

[Moonglow]

Idaho. What an insignificant place. I drove through there this one time and it was exactly as boring, lifeless and plain as I had imagined.

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Idaho is a beautiful state if you love the outdoors.
I can see though why you wouldn't care for it though, since it doesn't have tattoo parlors, pot shops, massage parlors, sex clubs, or transsexual clothing shops on every street corner.

or trees...

 

[September]

Idaho. What an insignificant place. I drove through there this one time and it was exactly as boring, lifeless and plain as I had imagined.

​

Idaho is a beautiful state if you love the outdoors.
I can see though why you wouldn't care for it though, since it doesn't have tattoo parlors, pot shops, massage parlors, sex clubs, or transsexual clothing shops on every street corner.

Actually I love the outdoors. I just prefer the desert. I like hiking out Arizona, especially the Phoenix area. My fav place is the Superstition Mountains. I also like hiking in New Mexico and Nevada. Along the Colorado river near Vegas, and also at places such as Red Rock where I also enjoy climbing, bouldering, rappelling, belaying....

Idaho was hideous compared to Arizona, New Mexico, and Nevada.

Behold the Natural beauty of Arizona...
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[September]

And then look at Idaho

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The next elections will have many like him sitting on the sidelines, since he has the ability to block the will of the majority of his state..only temporarily..

It wasn't the will of the majority. It didn't even make it out of subcommittee the first go around because of the steeped opposition to it. This is Idaho, not Cali-stone-ia

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I knew there was a reason I voted for him. Twice.

You're bragging about the fact you like to see children suffer? I find that interesting coming from a so-called Christian.

You should read the governor's comments. The suffering of children has not been dismissed.

 

[williep]

BOISE, Idaho (AP) – Idaho Gov. C.L. “Butch” Otter has vetoed a bill that would have allowed kids with severe forms of epilepsy to treat the disease with oil extracted from marijuana plants.

Read more here: Boise Meridian Nampa Caldwell news by Idaho Statesman

The Idaho Statesman requires an account to view the article. If the story is as represented, this "gov" should be tarred and feathered.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Here is another article on the issue

Gov. Butch Otter has vetoed SB 1146a, the bill that would have allowed parents of Idaho children with an intractable form of epilepsy to treat their kids with cannabidiol, a non-psychotropic oil that's an extract of cannabis and can halt the children's repeated, extended and life-threatening seizures. The bill passed after lengthy and emotional hearings during this year's legislative session. "Of course I sympathize with the heartbreaking dilemma facing some families trying to cope with the debilitating impacts of disease," Otter wrote in his veto message; you can read it here. But he said there were too many questions about the bill, including from law enforcement and his administration's Office of Drug Policy, which raised concerns that the bill would open the door to legalizing medical marijuana.


"It ignores ongoing scientific testing on alternative treatments," Otter wrote. "It asks us to trust but not to verify. It asks us to legalize the limited use of cannabidiol oil, contrary to federal law. And it asks us to look past the potential for misuse and abuse with criminal intent."


"As an alternative to this legislation, I soon will issue an Executive Order authorizing the Department of Health & Welfare to study, and implement as it deems appropriate, an expanded access program for treatment-resistant epilepsy in children," Otter wrote. "That program has been approved by the Food & Drug Administration."

I have mixed emotions on this- governors have the veto authority to be a final check on bad legislation- but is this bad legislation? I don't know enough about the science to know whether he is vetoing an unsubstantiated treatment option- or whether he is really just an anti-pot reactionary, vetoing a valid treatment option.

I have the benefit of following this story for quite some time as it's been talked about extensively on KBOI on the Nate Shelman show. The legislation was so bad that it was turned down in committee 10-0 the first time. Too much what theoretical and untested, though in all fairness, how do you test something that's against federal law? Even so, it isn't a proven cure for anything, there's no long term data that reveals side effects or other potential dangers, basically, we're asked to pass into law something that might eventually work. The human side of this whole debate is truly heartbreaking. But in all the emotional appeal, the harder questions were being ignored. Everyone wants government to get out of the way of the next Lorenzo's Oil cure, if that's what it is, but somebody has to make sure we aren't recklessly approving every unproven cure out there without knowing full well what we're getting into.

That someone is Butch Otter.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

BOISE, Idaho (AP) – Idaho Gov. C.L. “Butch” Otter has vetoed a bill that would have allowed kids with severe forms of epilepsy to treat the disease with oil extracted from marijuana plants.

Read more here: Boise Meridian Nampa Caldwell news by Idaho Statesman

The Idaho Statesman requires an account to view the article. If the story is as represented, this "gov" should be tarred and feathered.

Or he should run for another term. I will certainly vote for him, but I don't think my wife will. She's also bought into the emotion over substance arguments just like you have.

 

[charwin95]

Idaho. What an insignificant place. I drove through there this one time and it was exactly as boring, lifeless and plain as I had imagined.

​

Idaho is a beautiful state if you love the outdoors.
I can see though why you wouldn't care for it though, since it doesn't have tattoo parlors, pot shops, massage parlors, sex clubs, or transsexual clothing shops on every street corner.

or trees...

But they have miles of miles of farm potatoes.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Good for that governor recognizing the phony argument used to promote inevitable recreational use of a dangerous substance.
Pot heads and pot addicts will disingenuously disagree but that's because they're addicts and dishonest.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Good for that governor recognizing the phony argument used to promote inevitable recreational use of a dangerous substance.
Pot heads and pot addicts will disingenuously disagree but that's because they're addicts and dishonest.

They think they're sly pushing the medical marijuana angle, but there is no medical use for THC, meaning that even if cannabis is used, it will be an extract of parts of the plant lacking in intoxicating effects.

There's a gap between saying that federal laws against drugs are unconstitutional and wrong and saying that states should push back by legalizing drugs. The former can be held true without giving into the latter, because legalizing recreational drugs is just bad policy, even if states are allowed to do so.

Governor Otter did well on this one.

 

[September]

Good for that governor recognizing the phony argument used to promote inevitable recreational use of a dangerous substance.
Pot heads and pot addicts will disingenuously disagree but that's because they're addicts and dishonest.

They think they're sly pushing the medical marijuana angle, but there is no medical use for THC, meaning that even if cannabis is used, it will be an extract of parts of the plant lacking in intoxicating effects.

There's a gap between saying that federal laws against drugs are unconstitutional and wrong and saying that states should push back by legalizing drugs. The former can be held true without giving into the latter, because legalizing recreational drugs is just bad policy, even if states are allowed to do so.

Governor Otter did well on this one.

You've probably never smoked pot in your life. It is likely that most of what you think you know about Marijuana is what DARE (or some other anti "drug" program) indoctrinated you into believing.

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