"...my own country is lying to me and all of my fellow Americans."

[CurveLight]

yes and no..wow that's a definitive answer..and further more you have no I Idea what I do...the truth movement goes beyond just the events of 9/11 and there have Indeed been victories but I would not waste my time listing for you...and coming from a woman that trolls on a dozen boards solely on slandering the efforts of those seeking a re-investigation of 9/11 your crItisims are laughable.I would love to see your real mug shot I am sure it is nothing like your avatar...more like some homely lonely disinfo agent in a one bedroom apt.. who likes to pretend

You won't list them because there are zero.
Just like you won't list the source of the "report" that said there was no child's remains found at the site of Flight 77.

Yes, I do know what you do; you have nearly 10,000 posts here and zero successes. The "movement" hasn't gotten anywhere in 8 years. You sponsor lame theories about 3 buildings-fully occupied--being wired for controlled demolition, painted planes being used to shield missile attacks, and the swine flu being the next pearl harbor (how's that working out for you dumbfuck)?

You're batting zero.

If, and it is a monster "if", any of your bullshit turned out to be remotely true, you'd be the most surprised human on the planet; you've given up trying to be right a long time ago because nobody could purposely be as wrong as often as you are.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

the truth hurts huh..lets see 5 foot four 180lbs..shitty one bedroom apt trolling messageboards for a paycheck...lol

They fucking love changing goal posts and squirming away from anything that reveals their ignorance.

 

[SFC Ollie]

so you consider popular mechanics proof...lol...lol...lol you are going to convince highly decorated vets with PHDs that studied 9/11 for years painstakingly ..they are wrong by presenting them popular mechanics..lol...you really are delusional

Really, they have studied 9-11 for years? Have they been living off their retirements maybe? What have they been studying? Have they published any of their findings? And Popular Mechanics is only one of thousands who have published article by scientists and engineers who disagree with you and your crowd. So of course to you they are wrong. Give me a break. If Prison planet told you that the moon would be purple with green spots tomorrow night you would try to buy a new camera so you could photograph it.

bullshit Ollie..I once took a few of the names that you guys used as references and pointed out how they were sort of shady. My bet is you are still using the same names. you list 10 engineers and for every ten you list there are 100 or more who will say they are wrong. And you know that.

BULLSHIT OLLIE YOU POSTED A BUNCH OF CRAZY SLANDER THAT AMOUNTED TO NOTHING A TOTAL JOKE




Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.
They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations.

Thus far, however, there has been no response from political leaders in Washington or, for that matter, in other capitals around the world. Our organization, Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, has been formed to help bring about such a response.

We believe that the truth about 9/11 needs to be exposed now---not in 50 years as a footnote in the history books---so the policies that have been based on the Bush-Cheney administration’s interpretation of the 9/11 attacks can be changed.

We are, therefore, calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media."


Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go



Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.

Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history." Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001




Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement: "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers."


Member: Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven Association Statement: "We have found solid scientific grounds on which to question the interpretation put upon the events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the President of the United States of America and subsequently propagated by the major media of western nations."



Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot. Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures. Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis. Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber). 3,000+ fighter hours. Combat time over Iraq. 20-year Air Force career.
Statement to this website 3/25/07: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.
The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building’s collapse before it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse." [Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.]

We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"








Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army (ret) – Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. Former inspector and interpreter for the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty team.

Essay 9/11 and Non-investigation: "As a former Army officer, my tendency immediately after 911 was to rally 'round the colors and defend the country against what I then thought was an insidious, malicious all-Arab entity called Al-Qaida. In fact, in April of 2002, I attempted to reactivate my then-retired commission to return to serve my country in its time of peril. ...

Now I view the 911 event as Professor David Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor, views it: as a matter that implies either

A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down of proper defense procedures that (if followed) would have led US air assets to a quick identification and confrontation of the passenger aircraft that impacted WTC 1 and WTC 2, or worse ...

B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East ..." Captain Eric May

Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry." http://www.911truth.org/article



So Ollie lets hear what slander your punk ass nobdy bitch mark roberts has to say about these Vets

I really would rather not talk about fellow veterans, but since you want to force my hand:

LTC Robert Bowman is about 75 years old. He has been anti Government since Reagan was president.
Lets see what he says:
Why are they hiding audiotapes of FAA and NORAD controllers? Why are they hiding videotapes of whatever hit the Pentagon? Why are they hiding the black boxes? Why did they destroy most of the forensic evidence showing that three buildings at the World Trade Center were brought down by thermite demolition charges?

The tapes were played during the public hearings of the 911 commission. NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES p1

Tapes from the Pentagon, the gas station , and a hotel have been released the FBI has stated that none of the tapes they have show the actual impact. I'm not looking up these links for you. We all know they are out there.
The information from some of the Black boxes that have been recovered have been released. Why some is not released I have no clue. Fact is because of all the conspiracy BS on the internet I can't even tell for sure which boxes were and were not recovered.
The World trade center was not brought down by Thermite. The LTC is wrong, as wrong as you are and the proof has been denied by you 1000 times or more.

Col George Nelson I believe is next...
He claims that not one serial numbered item from any of the planes has ever been produced. Wrong answer. Besides several black boxes...
NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES p1

LTC Guy Razer, Now this guy is something else. I can't find any record of his military service. Except for what he claims. Now for a guy who supposedly was a fighter pilot all he talks about is building 7. Something strange there. Now I am not saying he isn't who he claims to be. I just can't find any proof of it. Very strange.

Had enough yet? I know you will dismiss all of this but people who actually can see the real world will understand.

 

[CurveLight]

Where is the link showing the serial numbered parts?

 

[SFC Ollie]

Where is the link showing the serial numbered parts?

Shit screwed that up...... I'll have to look for it again. I used to have all these things bookmarked. But new computer and all that.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Wolrd Trade plane debris 9/11 towers flights 175 11

9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon, page 1

Plenty of engine parts with serial numbers.

 

[eots]

Wolrd Trade plane debris 9/11 towers flights 175 11

9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon, page 1

Plenty of engine parts with serial numbers.

why ya gotta lie like that Ollie there are no serial numbers shown in these photos of unverified parts

 

[eots]

Really, they have studied 9-11 for years? Have they been living off their retirements maybe? What have they been studying? Have they published any of their findings? And Popular Mechanics is only one of thousands who have published article by scientists and engineers who disagree with you and your crowd. So of course to you they are wrong. Give me a break. If Prison planet told you that the moon would be purple with green spots tomorrow night you would try to buy a new camera so you could photograph it.

bullshit Ollie..I once took a few of the names that you guys used as references and pointed out how they were sort of shady. My bet is you are still using the same names. you list 10 engineers and for every ten you list there are 100 or more who will say they are wrong. And you know that.

BULLSHIT OLLIE YOU POSTED A BUNCH OF CRAZY SLANDER THAT AMOUNTED TO NOTHING A TOTAL JOKE




Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.
They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations.

Thus far, however, there has been no response from political leaders in Washington or, for that matter, in other capitals around the world. Our organization, Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, has been formed to help bring about such a response.

We believe that the truth about 9/11 needs to be exposed now---not in 50 years as a footnote in the history books---so the policies that have been based on the Bush-Cheney administration’s interpretation of the 9/11 attacks can be changed.

We are, therefore, calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media."


Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go



Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.

Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history." Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001




Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement: "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers."


Member: Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven Association Statement: "We have found solid scientific grounds on which to question the interpretation put upon the events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the President of the United States of America and subsequently propagated by the major media of western nations."



Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot. Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures. Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis. Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber). 3,000+ fighter hours. Combat time over Iraq. 20-year Air Force career.
Statement to this website 3/25/07: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.
The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building’s collapse before it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse." [Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.]

We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"








Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army (ret) – Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. Former inspector and interpreter for the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty team.

Essay 9/11 and Non-investigation: "As a former Army officer, my tendency immediately after 911 was to rally 'round the colors and defend the country against what I then thought was an insidious, malicious all-Arab entity called Al-Qaida. In fact, in April of 2002, I attempted to reactivate my then-retired commission to return to serve my country in its time of peril. ...

Now I view the 911 event as Professor David Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor, views it: as a matter that implies either

A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down of proper defense procedures that (if followed) would have led US air assets to a quick identification and confrontation of the passenger aircraft that impacted WTC 1 and WTC 2, or worse ...

B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East ..." Captain Eric May

Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry." http://www.911truth.org/article



So Ollie lets hear what slander your punk ass nobdy bitch mark roberts has to say about these Vets

I really would rather not talk about fellow veterans, but since you want to force my hand:

LTC Robert Bowman is about 75 years old. He has been anti Government since Reagan was president.
Lets see what he says:
Why are they hiding audiotapes of FAA and NORAD controllers? Why are they hiding videotapes of whatever hit the Pentagon? Why are they hiding the black boxes? Why did they destroy most of the forensic evidence showing that three buildings at the World Trade Center were brought down by thermite demolition charges?

so he is almost 75 ..what 66 when this all came down what are you trying to imply you old fart..he was so called anti government since Reagan ? ya him and half the country whats your point..is that all the slander you can muster

The tapes were played during the public hearings of the 911 commission. NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES p1

Tapes from the Pentagon, the gas station , and a hotel have been released the FBI has stated that none of the tapes they have show the actual impact.

what do they show moron..why cant we see them..the FAA TAPES WERE DESTROYED

I'm not looking up these links for you. We all know they are out there.
The information from some of the Black boxes that have been recovered have been released. Why some is not released I have no clue.

Truest statement you have made to date

Fact is because of all the conspiracy BS on the internet I can't even tell for sure which boxes were and were not recovered.
The World trade center was not brought down by Thermite. The LTC is wrong, as wrong as you are and the proof has been denied by you 1000 times or more.

blah blah blah

Col George Nelson I believe is next...
He claims that not one serial numbered item from any of the planes has ever been produced. Wrong answer. Besides several black boxes...
NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES p1

LTC Guy Razer, Now this guy is something else. I can't find any record of his military service. Except for what he claims. Now for a guy who supposedly was a fighter pilot all he talks about is building 7. Something strange there. Now I am not saying he isn't who he claims to be. I just can't find any proof of it. Very strange.

you are very strange and suck at research if you cant verify this man and his record

Had enough yet? I know you will dismiss all of this but people who actually can see the real world will understand

more than enough lil Ollie...go play now

 

[candycorn]

BULLSHIT OLLIE YOU POSTED A BUNCH OF CRAZY SLANDER THAT AMOUNTED TO NOTHING A TOTAL JOKE




Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.
They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations.

Thus far, however, there has been no response from political leaders in Washington or, for that matter, in other capitals around the world. Our organization, Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, has been formed to help bring about such a response.

We believe that the truth about 9/11 needs to be exposed now---not in 50 years as a footnote in the history books---so the policies that have been based on the Bush-Cheney administration’s interpretation of the 9/11 attacks can be changed.

We are, therefore, calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media."


Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go



Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.

Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history." Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001




Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement: "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers."


Member: Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven Association Statement: "We have found solid scientific grounds on which to question the interpretation put upon the events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the President of the United States of America and subsequently propagated by the major media of western nations."



Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot. Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures. Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis. Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber). 3,000+ fighter hours. Combat time over Iraq. 20-year Air Force career.
Statement to this website 3/25/07: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.
The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building’s collapse before it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse." [Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.]

We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"








Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army (ret) – Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. Former inspector and interpreter for the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty team.

Essay 9/11 and Non-investigation: "As a former Army officer, my tendency immediately after 911 was to rally 'round the colors and defend the country against what I then thought was an insidious, malicious all-Arab entity called Al-Qaida. In fact, in April of 2002, I attempted to reactivate my then-retired commission to return to serve my country in its time of peril. ...

Now I view the 911 event as Professor David Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor, views it: as a matter that implies either

A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down of proper defense procedures that (if followed) would have led US air assets to a quick identification and confrontation of the passenger aircraft that impacted WTC 1 and WTC 2, or worse ...

B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East ..." Captain Eric May

Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry." http://www.911truth.org/article



So Ollie lets hear what slander your punk ass nobdy bitch mark roberts has to say about these Vets

I really would rather not talk about fellow veterans, but since you want to force my hand:



so he is almost 75 ..what 66 when this all came down what are you trying to imply you old fart..he was so called anti government since Reagan ? ya him and half the country whats your point..is that all the slander you can muster



what do they show moron..why cant we see them..the FAA TAPES WERE DESTROYED



Truest statement you have made to date




blah blah blah











you are very strange and suck at research if you cant verify this man and his record

Had enough yet? I know you will dismiss all of this but people who actually can see the real world will understand

more than enough lil Ollie...go play now

If you have proof and have experts willing to testify; where is your court case?
Either you don't have the goods or you're simply a scared little man. I'm guessing both.
Its 2010; you've had over 8 years. How about some proof finally?

Well?

Sleep tight loser.

 

[Fizz]

Wolrd Trade plane debris 9/11 towers flights 175 11

9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon, page 1

Plenty of engine parts with serial numbers.

why ya gotta lie like that Ollie there are no serial numbers shown in these photos of unverified parts

 

[eots]

Wolrd Trade plane debris 9/11 towers flights 175 11

9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon, page 1

Plenty of engine parts with serial numbers.

why ya gotta lie like that Ollie there are no serial numbers shown in these photos of unverified parts

LOL.......No comment...LMAO

 

[eots]

If you have proof and have experts willing to testify; where is your court case?
Either you don't have the goods or you're simply a scared little man. I'm guessing both.
Its 2010; you've had over 8 years. How about some proof finally?

Well?

Sleep tight loser.

oh there are lots of experts more than willing to testify you know this..the court case ? your employers are blocking any attempts that's what happens when the perps are in charge...hey speaking of losers when are you going to post your real picture ????...lol

 

[Fizz]

LOL.......No comment...LMAO

why laughing? because its a total of one piece of evidence more than you have ever shown?

 

[CurveLight]

Wolrd Trade plane debris 9/11 towers flights 175 11

9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon, page 1

Plenty of engine parts with serial numbers.

There isn't a single serial number matched part in the Pentagon link. Not. One.

More importantly, you bitched, moaned and whined when eots linked the matrix site but here you cite ABOVE TOP SECRET!!!!!!!!! Are you fucking insane??? So it's okay for OCTAs to link any source they want but everyone else can use only the sources you approve of. That's fucking hilarious.

So once more, got a link showing serial number matches? Colonel Nelson is pwning you so far.

 

[CurveLight]

LOL.......No comment...LMAO

why laughing? because its a total of one piece of evidence more than you have ever shown?

He's laughing at the desperate hypocrisy. It's even funnier knowing you actually believe you are informed on the issue.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Wolrd Trade plane debris 9/11 towers flights 175 11

9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon, page 1

Plenty of engine parts with serial numbers.

why ya gotta lie like that Ollie there are no serial numbers shown in these photos of unverified parts

You think maybe there are no serial numbers in those engines and landing gear? But we knew that you would deny it.

 

[CurveLight]

Wolrd Trade plane debris 9/11 towers flights 175 11

9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon, page 1

Plenty of engine parts with serial numbers.

why ya gotta lie like that Ollie there are no serial numbers shown in these photos of unverified parts

You think maybe there are no serial numbers in those engines and landing gear? But we knew that you would deny it.

He didn't say they don't have serial numbers. Why are you changing the claim?

 

[candycorn]

If you have proof and have experts willing to testify; where is your court case?
Either you don't have the goods or you're simply a scared little man. I'm guessing both.
Its 2010; you've had over 8 years. How about some proof finally?

Well?

Sleep tight loser.

oh there are lots of experts more than willing to testify you know this..the court case ? your employers are blocking any attempts that's what happens when the perps are in charge...hey speaking of losers when are you going to post your real picture ????...lol

What? Blocking any attempt to file a law suit? What do they tell you at the court house when you try to file one? What do they tell your attorney? By the way, who is your attorney?

Let me guess; you have never filed a suit; the suit you never filed was never blocked, and you have not enquired with any attorney about moving forward with any of this;

Right on all 3 counts; correct?

Ha ha ha ha ha loser.

I own you

 

[CurveLight]

If you have proof and have experts willing to testify; where is your court case?
Either you don't have the goods or you're simply a scared little man. I'm guessing both.
Its 2010; you've had over 8 years. How about some proof finally?

Well?

Sleep tight loser.

oh there are lots of experts more than willing to testify you know this..the court case ? your employers are blocking any attempts that's what happens when the perps are in charge...hey speaking of losers when are you going to post your real picture ????...lol

What? Blocking any attempt to file a law suit? What do they tell you at the court house when you try to file one? What do they tell your attorney? By the way, who is your attorney?

Let me guess; you have never filed a suit; the suit you never filed was never blocked, and you have not enquired with any attorney about moving forward with any of this;

Right on all 3 counts; correct?

Ha ha ha ha ha loser.

I own you

You're such an ignorant ****. You make one false claim after another, pretend you didn't, then say some of the dumbest shit as a follow up.

 

[candycorn]

oh there are lots of experts more than willing to testify you know this..the court case ? your employers are blocking any attempts that's what happens when the perps are in charge...hey speaking of losers when are you going to post your real picture ????...lol

What? Blocking any attempt to file a law suit? What do they tell you at the court house when you try to file one? What do they tell your attorney? By the way, who is your attorney?

Let me guess; you have never filed a suit; the suit you never filed was never blocked, and you have not enquired with any attorney about moving forward with any of this;

Right on all 3 counts; correct?

Ha ha ha ha ha loser.

I own you

You're such an ignorant ****. You make one false claim after another, pretend you didn't, then say some of the dumbest shit as a follow up.

Yawn! Anything else? No? Pity.

Damn you're dumb.

 

[CurveLight]

Being dumb versus candycorn is always preferable.