SUPERMAN1929
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- Apr 18, 2015
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Calm down. I don't work with you. lol. I don't know every detail of the situation. I'm just stating my preference of handling things with the limited knowledge provided. I'm sure you did fine. Also working things out with her doesn't mean accepting her behavior. It means here stopping it and everyone letting go of things. Not holding grudges...I'm saying if you're a manager what keeps you from talking to her yourself? How is that so crazy of an option? You can end things right there. If she doesn't listen then just say you let her know and she ignored you. That's my version of handling a situation. I prefer that method used with me so I use it with other people. If it has been a continued problem and she has been warned then sure she should just get fired at that point. I don't believe in suddenly collaborating a case against someone with multiple sources if she was never given a warning. Two strikes and your out though. In my experience the person with the problem going straight to the person they have a problem with has always been the best option.It's not about authority. It's about courtesy.One, I know what a liberal is but want to make generalizations to criticize liberals.
Two, you laughably thinking everything I write on an online message board reflects my actual beliefs or actions is a joke.
Three, I agree she was wrong but this kind of handling situations is part of the decay of feeling part of society in this country. Going above people's heads to solve problems like this is common throughout society and shows a clear lack of caring and respect for other individuals around you. This creates divides and an overall lack of understanding from all parties involved. An attempt should always be made to reconcile things between parties before needing someone else to do it for you unless violence is at play.
No you are wrong. She is a store associate. Practically everyone is above her head. As managers, we are higher up on the chain of command and must handle all issues where we see fit. Had I went to the VP of sales, I would agree with you. I went to my own manager to handle the issue which is not far up at all. A store associate has no authority to have someone not go over their head. If they violate company policy, which she did, they will be taken care of in the manner the company sees fit, period. Per the company policy, all managers must report this type of behavior or they themselves shall be fired. Please just stop it already.
I wouldn't do it to someone else for any issue and I don't expect them to do it to me. It's about doing it adult to adult imo. If that fails then go to authority to fix it. There's nothing saying anyone has to do this but to me it's the right thing to do.
It's all about authority here. She is coming to work ignoring people and not following the instruction of a company manager. She was told to return to work and to change her attitude and she continues to act unprofessionally. She violated the company policy and she was told that. Furthermore you said that a Manager in a company should not go above a store associate's head. That is complete bologna. Any manager that sees a subordinate violating the company policy should do something about it period. It's called doing their job. She has a HISTORY of making these jokes and comments on a REGULAR basis. Many employees gave statements attesting to this. What is so hard for you to understand that she was dealt with the way she should have been? You really are making no sense at all here. Even the company does not agree with you, no one does.
I went to HER manager, she is not my employee. She has been with the company for quite some time and has had many employees dislike her jokes. As I stated, I just started the job so no I was not going to start trouble being new with the company. She is given plenty of warning as she is not even fired. I did go to her that I didn't agree with the things she says at work. Her manager is her sister who did nothing. That in itself is a conflict. I went to my boss when several attempts to reach out to the manager were completely ignored. Like I said, if she had been my direct employee and it had been at my store, I would have handled her very seriously. How would you like it if another manager came in your store and starting "handling" your employees? I went to the woman's boss immediately which was the respectful thing to do. Her manager chose to ignore me, and the two are sisters. The conflict is clear that the two sisters are standing by each other. That in itself is a failure. If this were a court case, the judge would be recused. Why would I continue to handle things with her manager sister who is clearly ignoring me, and furthermore is biased towards the situation? It makes no sense. At the end of the day, when you are an employee you are expected to follow the rules and policy, or face the consequences. You are too busy trying to "work things out" with employees while potential lawsuits are in the making. When it comes to matters like this, there is no time to play games. Had the employee been out of uniform and I went to tell on her then I would completely agree with you. Her behavior is a SERIOUS matter and "working things out" with her is not an option. Her behavior was to be ceased immediately, period. If she does not like following the company policy and treating others with respect then she needs to find another job.
Also telling someone to stop saying niggah isn't really an overreach no matter who you are...