Nanny NY State won't allow full grown adults to buy cigarettes

[TheGreatGatsby]

21 isn't fully grown. For women that's roughly mid-26, for men that's almost 29. Reality sucks eh?

Tell that to the military. Tell that to students who are leaving home and going to college. Maybe, once in a while should try not towing your looney party line. You might come off as a real person and not a paid troll.

That's developmental psychology. It's non-partisan.

Sorry, I don't speak gibberish. Maybe, you should go somewhere else. You bring nothing to the table.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

You get the government you vote for. New Yorkers obviously love these laws.

There's more than enough truth to this. I'd certainly be interested to see a NY poll on the matter.

 

[Bfgrn]

According to Obama and the Democrat party men and women are children until the age of 26.
They are to be covered under ObamaCare till that age because they are not capable of leading
their own lives and able to provide for themselves.So NY being a Liberal Mecca then they should be fine with this.

So maybe the legal drinking age should be the same 26 years old.
And the same goes for the purchase of tobacco products.

As usual, you right wing parrots prove your brain will never develop beyond the ability to mimic and emote.

Many parents of 20-somethings worry that their offspring haven't yet found a career path, gotten married or become financially independent.

These parents should chill out, experts say.

Biologists, psychologists and sociologists are increasingly seeing the years between 18 to 29 as a distinct phase of human development, worthy of much more study.

Recent research into how the brain develops suggests that people are better equipped to make major life decisions in their late 20s than earlier in the decade. The brain, once thought to be fully grown after puberty, is still evolving into its adult shape well into a person's third decade, pruning away unused connections and strengthening those that remain, scientists say.

"Until very recently, we had to make some pretty important life decisions about education and career paths, who to marry and whether to go into the military at a time when parts of our brains weren't optimal yet," says neuroscientist Jay Giedd at the National Institute of Mental Health, whose brain-imaging studies of thousands of young people have yielded many of the new insights. Postponing those decisions makes sense biologically, he says. "It's a good thing that the 20s are becoming a time for self-discovery."

Such findings are part of a new wave of research into "emerging adulthood," the years roughly from 18 to 29, which psychologists, sociologists and neuroscientists increasingly see as a distinct life stage. The gap between adolescence and full adulthood is becoming ever wider as more young people willingly or because of economic necessity prolong their education and postpone traditional adult responsibilities. As recently as the 1960s, the average age of first marriage for women in the U.S. was 20, and men 22. Today, the average is 26 for women and 28 for men.

Delayed Development: 20-Somethings Blame the Brain - WSJ.com

 

[CaféAuLait]

You can vote and fight and die for your Country in the Military but you can't purchase a pack of cigarettes in NY? Insanity in the (democrat party) nanny state.

You shouldn't be fighting, or voting, or dying either. There is plenty of time for all of that yet.

That is not reality though, is it?

1/5 of those who died in Iraq were not old enough to buy alcohol.


58,148 were killed in Vietnam

Of those killed, 61% were younger than 21

Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old

SgtHackBio.com

 

[NoNukes]

True story. If you're a full grown adult in NY, the state may not allow you to buy cigarettes.

New York raises minimum age to buy cigarettes to 21

21 isn't fully grown. For women that's roughly mid-26, for men that's almost 29. Reality sucks eh?

Tell that to the military. Tell that to students who are leaving home and going to college. Maybe, once in a while should try not towing your looney party line. You might come off as a real person and not a paid troll.

Reagan made all states raise the drinking age to 21, and the world did not end.

 

[Bfgrn]

When you right wing turds do it, suddenly it is divine intervention.

I said that we needed a rebirth of an American tradition of leadership of that kind, because the United States of America is unique in world history. It has a genius for leaders at many—of many leaders on many levels. And since then we've seen the rise of a great national movement, a movement that's led by men and women in all walks of life. It began in the community; it spread to State governments; and now it's won wide support here in our Nation's Capital-the movement against drunk driving.

The bill we're gathered to sign today reflects the will of the American people. It takes the battle to stop drunk driving one crucial step further. And permit me to tell you why I believe that this bill is so important.

We know that drinking plus driving spell death and disaster. We know that people in the 18-to-20 age group are more likely to be in alcohol-related accidents than those in any other age group. We know that America has a clear stake in making certain that her sons and daughters, so full of vitality and promise, will not be crippled or killed. And I know there's one—we all know that there is one simple measure that will save thousands of young lives that are in the drinking age—if we, or if we raise the drinking age, I should say, to 21.

Now, raising that drinking age is not a fad or an experiment. It's a proven success. Nearly every State that has raised the drinking age to 21 has produced a significant drop in the teenage driving fatalities. In the State of New Jersey, whose Governor made it a very personal crusade for himself, the rate dropped by 26 percent; Illinois, it has fallen 23 percent; in Michigan, 31 percent. And when the Commission on Drunk Driving submitted its report, it forcefully recommended that all 50 States should make 21 the legal drinking age.

Ronald Reagan: Remarks on Signing a National Minimum Drinking Age Bill

 

[hortysir]

You can vote and fight and die for your Country in the Military but you can't purchase a pack of cigarettes in NY? Insanity in the (democrat party) nanny state.

You shouldn't be fighting, or voting, or dying either. There is plenty of time for all of that yet.

You're welcome, shit-stain

 

[Vandalshandle]

Being a Georgia boy, I honestly can not think of a really convincing argument as to why anyone would want to stop New Yorkers from killing themselves.

 

[auditor0007]

According to Obama and the Democrat party men and women are children until the age of 26.
They are to be covered under ObamaCare till that age because they are not capable of leading
their own lives and able to provide for themselves.So NY being a Liberal Mecca then they should be fine with this.

So maybe the legal drinking age should be the same 26 years old.
And the same goes for the purchase of tobacco products.

Glad to know that you believe students in college should be paying for their own health insurance and should not be permitted to remain on their parent's plans. That's the stupid kind of thinking that is killing the Republican Party and conservatives in general.

 

[Bfgrn]

According to Obama and the Democrat party men and women are children until the age of 26.
They are to be covered under ObamaCare till that age because they are not capable of leading
their own lives and able to provide for themselves.So NY being a Liberal Mecca then they should be fine with this.

So maybe the legal drinking age should be the same 26 years old.
And the same goes for the purchase of tobacco products.

Glad to know that you believe students in college should be paying for their own health insurance and should not be permitted to remain on their parent's plans. That's the stupid kind of thinking that is killing the Republican Party and conservatives in general.

The core of conservatism is punishment. Always has and always will be.

 

[Zombie_Pundit]

True story. If you're a full grown adult in NY, the state may not allow you to buy cigarettes.

New York raises minimum age to buy cigarettes to 21

The link seems broken. It did not take me to the article.

I am disinclined to support prohibition, but I must ask the obvious question:

Is there any reason to protest this more than to protest the drinking age being 21? Is there some draconian enforcement proposed?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

According to Obama and the Democrat party men and women are children until the age of 26.
They are to be covered under ObamaCare till that age because they are not capable of leading
their own lives and able to provide for themselves.So NY being a Liberal Mecca then they should be fine with this.

So maybe the legal drinking age should be the same 26 years old.
And the same goes for the purchase of tobacco products.

Glad to know that you believe students in college should be paying for their own health insurance and should not be permitted to remain on their parent's plans. That's the stupid kind of thinking that is killing the Republican Party and conservatives in general.

If you believed in the free market, this wouldn't be a big deal. How much health insurance do you think a healthy 21-year-old needs? You want to talk stupid, the health care system you advocate is not only obtrusive, but has led to astronomical superficial charges. I literally pay thousands of dollars for nothing.

 

[LoneLaugher]

According to Obama and the Democrat party men and women are children until the age of 26.
They are to be covered under ObamaCare till that age because they are not capable of leading
their own lives and able to provide for themselves.So NY being a Liberal Mecca then they should be fine with this.

So maybe the legal drinking age should be the same 26 years old.
And the same goes for the purchase of tobacco products.

Glad to know that you believe students in college should be paying for their own health insurance and should not be permitted to remain on their parent's plans. That's the stupid kind of thinking that is killing the Republican Party and conservatives in general.

If you believed in the free market, this wouldn't be a big deal. How much health insurance do you think a healthy 21-year-old needs? You want to talk stupid, the health care system you advocate is not only obtrusive, but has led to astronomical superficial charges. I literally pay thousands of dollars for nothing.

A healthy 21 year old needs enough health insurance to cover him in the event of serious illness or injury. Doesn't he or she? He or she also needs access to preventive care services. We all do.

You are paying for insurance. That is not nothing.

Please try to understand what insurance is.

 

[The Rabbi]

Glad to know that you believe students in college should be paying for their own health insurance and should not be permitted to remain on their parent's plans. That's the stupid kind of thinking that is killing the Republican Party and conservatives in general.

If you believed in the free market, this wouldn't be a big deal. How much health insurance do you think a healthy 21-year-old needs? You want to talk stupid, the health care system you advocate is not only obtrusive, but has led to astronomical superficial charges. I literally pay thousands of dollars for nothing.

A healthy 21 year old needs enough health insurance to cover him in the event of serious illness or injury. Doesn't he or she? He or she also needs access to preventive care services. We all do.

You are paying for insurance. That is not nothing.

Please try to understand what insurance is.

People need to do all sorts of things. But government is not a nanny that sits there hectoring people into doing the right thing.
And Obamacare forces young people to buy insurance they surely don't need. And can't afford anyway. But as Mooschelle reminds us, young people are knuckleheads.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

21 isn't fully grown. For women that's roughly mid-26, for men that's almost 29. Reality sucks eh?

Tell that to the military. Tell that to students who are leaving home and going to college. Maybe, once in a while should try not towing your looney party line. You might come off as a real person and not a paid troll.

That's developmental psychology. It's non-partisan.

It's irrelevant to the point of the thread. Stop trolling douchebag

 

[editec]

You can vote and fight and die for your Country in the Military but you can't purchase a pack of cigarettes in NY? Insanity in the (democrat party) nanny state.

You can vote and fight and die for your Country in the Military but you can't purchase a pack of cigarettes, Heroin, POT, speed in NY? Insanity in the (democrat party) nanny state?

Funny how arbitrary our laws are, isn't it?

IF your looking for consistent LOGIC in our legal system, you're not paying attention/

 

[Wacky Quacky]

Tell that to the military. Tell that to students who are leaving home and going to college. Maybe, once in a while should try not towing your looney party line. You might come off as a real person and not a paid troll.

That's developmental psychology. It's non-partisan.

It's irrelevant to the point of the thread. Stop trolling douchebag

Not really. The age of 18 being an adult was only established back in 1971. Before that it was 21. Lowering the age of adulthood was done for two reasons. First, as a way for the government to draft teenagers without pissing them off because "If you're old to die for your country you should be old enough to drink and smoke". Second, because many 18 year olds had already graduated from high school, setting out on careers, moving out their parents house, ect. ect.

Debating the legal age where you're allowed to kill yourself with cigarettes and alcohol should include both, actions taken by teenagers (moving out and starting your own life), and psychological development (I don't trust teenage drivers, let alone giving them a addictive substance they can kill themselves with).

 

[BlindBoo]

True story. If you're a full grown adult in NY, the state may not allow you to buy cigarettes.

New York raises minimum age to buy cigarettes to 21

That would be the City of New York, A gift from Nanny Bloomers.

 

[g5000]

True story. If you're a full grown adult in NY, the state may not allow you to buy cigarettes.

New York raises minimum age to buy cigarettes to 21

What's the age for buying alcohol where you live?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Tell that to the military. Tell that to students who are leaving home and going to college. Maybe, once in a while should try not towing your looney party line. You might come off as a real person and not a paid troll.

That's developmental psychology. It's non-partisan.

It's irrelevant to the point of the thread. Stop trolling douchebag

I did no such thing, but someone already said that for me. You have to think people, and you aren't.