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NATO was the west's response to the Warsaw Pact of communist countries. ....
All I can say is YOU areI have to say, i do respect Trump for trying to hold Western European nations accountable for not doing enough to support NATO. He really did stand up for American Taxpayers. And that's very rare these days for a US President to do so. But i'm afraid it'll all be for naught.
The Western Europeans don't seem too interested in paying more for NATO. So why keep this incredibly costly bureaucracy afloat? Why not abolish it and give American Taxpayers a much-deserved break? Western European nations rank among the most wealthy nations on earth. They can pay for their own defense at this point. In my opinion, it's time to ditch NATO and move on.
Here's a good piece on the subject by Jack Perry
Trump went over and scolded NATO member nations who aren’t paying their share into this scam. Okay, two things:
First, then why don’t we do what any other subscription-based company does? Cancel their subscription. Cut off their service, like the utilities would. Better still, let’s cut off our end of that deal. Then they can argue about it amongst themselves.
Second, the reason they’re not paying is because they’d rather spend that money on their own countries. Not some archaic defense alliance put together in the era that also brought us the Hula Hoop. Okay, got that? There are grandparents in NATO nations younger than this alliance. NATO members that do pay are sitting there slapping bumper stickers on tanks that say, “We’re Spending Our Children’s Inheritance”...
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NATO: Time To Haul It To The Dump - LRC Blog LewRockwell.com
They help us, more than we help them....we use them for our Nation's protection.
The U.S. spends about 3.3% of its GDP on defense, which covers worldwide operations. The U.K. and France spend about 2%, while Germany and Japan spend about 1%. It seems that losing a war with the U.S. pays off.
List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia
All very wealthy nations. They can pay for their own defense at this point. NATO can be disbanded now.
Western Europeans are very sly folks. They see American Taxpayers as simpleton suckers. They're completely fine with American Taxpayers paying for it. They have the money, but they know Americans are forced to pay for it. So why would they want anything to change? I'm seriously ok with disbanding NATO. It's too expensive and obsolete.
No one pays for it. The fact is that we pay our soldiers whether they are in Germany or the US. We use the bases in Germany to deploy our forces in places other than Europe. When we moved our forces to Kuwait, some of our ground forces came from Germany.
Remember after the wall in Berlin came down that there was talk of inviting Russia into NATO? I agree....if they don't pay up, we don't invoke Article 5...in fact, they owe us BACK RENT and we should demand they pay it.
The U.S. spends about 3.3% of its GDP on defense, which covers worldwide operations. The U.K. and France spend about 2%, while Germany and Japan spend about 1%. It seems that losing a war with the U.S. gets you off the hook for your own defense.
List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia
Do the Trumptards understand, or more importantly, do they give a shit, that the undermining of NATO is exactly what the Russians want
from Trump?
since when have RussianWingers understood anything except bitching like teenage girls on the rag?
The deterioration of NATO is on the top tier of the Russians' wishlist. Trump is making their wishes come true.
Couple that with story after story of Trump cronies getting cozy with Russian operatives, and then,
try to tell us, with a straight face, that this can't be anything other than coincidence.
Please bring your silly TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) elsewhere. This is a rational adult conversation. Thanks.
86'ing NATO is near the top of my wish list also. ....The deterioration of NATO is on the top tier of the Russians' wishlist. Trump is making their wishes come true.
Taking out Iraq was at the top of the Iranian wish list.
So why did the US and NATO do it? Now the Shiites aligned with Shiite Iran, control Iraq. What a disastrous blunder.
nobody bitched about NATO when 43 held out both hands asking for help in Iraq.
Yes, Trump bleevs we should dump NATO and serve our Soviet overlords. Good luck with that, comrade!NATO: Time To Haul It To The Dump...
86'ing NATO is near the top of my wish list also. ....The deterioration of NATO is on the top tier of the Russians' wishlist. Trump is making their wishes come true.
Taking out Iraq was at the top of the Iranian wish list.
So why did the US and NATO do it? Now the Shiites aligned with Shiite Iran, control Iraq. What a disastrous blunder.
[It was Obama who created the disastrous blunder. He withdrew American forces prematurely from Iraq. W. warned what would happen if we did that and it happened just as he predicted.
The U.S. spends about 3.3% of its GDP on defense, which covers worldwide operations. The U.K. and France spend about 2%, while Germany and Japan spend about 1%. It seems that losing a war with the U.S. pays off.
List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia
All very wealthy nations. They can pay for their own defense at this point. NATO can be disbanded now.
Not true at all.
Including us.
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86'ing NATO is near the top of my wish list also. ....The deterioration of NATO is on the top tier of the Russians' wishlist. Trump is making their wishes come true.
Taking out Iraq was at the top of the Iranian wish list.
So why did the US and NATO do it? Now the Shiites aligned with Shiite Iran, control Iraq. What a disastrous blunder.
[It was Obama who created the disastrous blunder. He withdrew American forces prematurely from Iraq. W. warned what would happen if we did that and it happened just as he predicted.
Yes, Trump bleevs we should dump NATO and serve our Soviet overlords. Good luck with that, comrade!NATO: Time To Haul It To The Dump...
Putin is our enemy, whether you believe so or not...Yes, Trump bleevs we should dump NATO and serve our Soviet overlords. Good luck with that, comrade!NATO: Time To Haul It To The Dump...
Y'all Trump-Haters gotta get over your Russia Boogeyman hysteria. Russia is no threat to the US/West at all. It doesn't have the capabilities to seriously take on the West. The US alone, spends almost ten times what Russia spends on its Military. Russia is vastly outmatched in every aspect. Militarily and economically, it's not even close. And that's compared with just the US. Western European nations are very wealthy nations. They also have a huge edge over Russia, militarily and economically.
But besides being so outmatched, Russia has no interest in invading and occupying Western Europe. What would it stand to gain? The answer is, nothing. And even at the height of Soviet Union power, it couldn't have successfully invaded and occupied Western Europe. So it certainly couldn't do it now. It just doesn't have the capabilities. Y'all really do need to get past your Russia Boogeyman hysteria. It's unfounded and irrational.
No. They don't understand and as long as Ol' Thunder Mouth Trump says Russia is our friend, they're going to back it to the death.Do the Trumptards understand, or more importantly, do they give a shit, that the undermining of NATO is exactly what the Russians want
from Trump?
I don't agree that Russia is no threat at all to the US/West. No, they aren't going to march in here and overcome us militarily. They will undermine our relationships with Europe and they will take over there instead. You watch. Russia wants stuff. They will get it if they are left to their own devices. NATO is the only thing stopping them.Yes, Trump bleevs we should dump NATO and serve our Soviet overlords. Good luck with that, comrade!NATO: Time To Haul It To The Dump...
Y'all Trump-Haters gotta get over your Russia Boogeyman hysteria. Russia is no threat to the US/West at all. It doesn't have the capabilities to seriously take on the West. The US alone, spends almost ten times what Russia spends on its Military. Russia is vastly outmatched in every aspect. Militarily and economically, it's not even close. And that's compared with just the US. Western European nations are very wealthy nations. They also have a huge edge over Russia, militarily and economically.
But besides being so outmatched, Russia has no interest in invading and occupying Western Europe. What would it stand to gain? The answer is, nothing. And even at the height of Soviet Union power, it couldn't have successfully invaded and occupied Western Europe. So it certainly couldn't do it now. It just doesn't have the capabilities. Y'all really do need to get past your Russia Boogeyman hysteria. It's unfounded and irrational.
How can we stop him? It's his decision, isn't it?Yes, Trump bleevs we should dump NATO and serve our Soviet overlords. Good luck with that, comrade!NATO: Time To Haul It To The Dump...