New development in the shooting case of the black georgia jogger

[jc456]

Except, that’s fiction.

Playing is defining what is the fictitious.

So the jogger alters his route to go around the truck on the right side in order to avoid the gunman with a shotgun standing on the left side of the truck.

But as the jogger tried to put distance between him and the gunman the gunman circles around to the front of the truck and into the joggers path with a shotgun.

The jury is asked to choose which of the two men was the aggressor in that one tries to avoid the other and the other circled to confront. And a shot was fired at the moment when the two men came together.

Why not tell us what you see as being fictitious In the above.


The jury will see the very same video that I am looking at.

Do you think the the defense attorneys will be like trump and mark up the video and draw a little stickMan with a shotgun standing harmlessly on the left side of the truck because that’s where you say shotgun man has been the whole time. And the jury will be sold on that

As long as no one talks during viewing, they’ll see the real video. Man runs toward truck with man ahead with a gun, instead of stopping and wondering why the fk that guy in front has a gun and turn the open other way instead runs toward the gun. He then veers right to the passenger side and runs past the truck and instead of continuing his jog, he veers left to dance with the gun.

 

[Norman]

Except, that’s fiction.

Playing is defining what is the fictitious.

So the jogger alters his route to go around the truck on the right side in order to avoid the gunman with a shotgun standing on the left side of the truck.

But as the jogger tried to put distance between him and the gunman the gunman circles around to the front of the truck and into the joggers path with a shotgun.

The jury is asked to choose which of the two men was the aggressor in that one tries to avoid the other and the other circled to confront. And a shot was fired at the moment when the two men came together.

Why not tell us what you see as being fictitious In the above.


The jury will see the very same video that I am looking at.

Do you think the the defense attorneys will be like trump and mark up the video and draw a little stickMan with a shotgun standing harmlessly on the left side of the truck because that’s where you say shotgun man has been the whole time. And the jury will be sold on that

As long as no one talks during viewing, they’ll see the real video. Man runs toward truck with man ahead with a gun, instead of stopping and wondering why the fk that guy in front has a gun and turn the open other way instead runs toward the gun. He then veers right to the passenger side and runs past the truck and instead of continuing his jog, he veers left to dance with the gun.

There was no jog. There was an escape from a crime scene, after a quick rob.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

The part where he lunges at the guy is especially trying to put some distance between him and the shotgun. Don't forget that part.

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I was referring to what happened behind the truck.

That “lunge” happens in the left lane about ten feet past the front of truck. But it started as a continuous scuffle moving from right to left that started in the right lane in front of the truck when the first shot was fired and the jogger may have been wounded.

So had the killer stayed in the left lane - keeping a safe distance - and not fired the shotgun at a passing jogger keeps going.

But no, the killer circled into the joggers path and the gun goes off.

Why isn’t the killer Supposed to keep a safe distance from from a jogger who was not armed and demonstrated no danger to the public?

Is it white privilege - where black men have to run away and white boys with guns get to run at?

 

[Jitss617]

Facts of this case......a father and son associated with law enforcement and never in trouble of any kind, never arrested for anything but are called criminals by the liberals

vs.

The black jogger............who comidtted a felony (brought a gun to school) was convicted placed on 5 yrs probation.

The he engaged in theft thus violating his probation.....but nothing was done...he should have been in jail. If he had been where he belonged he would still be alive.

Yet the liberals want us to believe he is just so innocent...he ranks right up there with Mother Teresa
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Then just like the the Zimmerman case the media plays games with photos..........show the best possible photo of the black dude they could find......but show the white dudes in their jail outfit.

Keep tuned this case is getting crazier by the second.

Latest development....video emerges of the black dude visiting that same home at night....what is that all about? Did he have some sort of obsession with that house....maybe Satan lured him there...as in the devil made him do it???

Miscarriage of justice,, poor guys are being lynched by democrats

And the Earth is Flat. We faked the moon landing. Artificial Sweeteners are good for you, and Anna Nicole married for Love. Any other insane conspiracy theories you believe in besides these?

They did nothing wrong, if you stop pretending the black did nothing wrong it might dawn on you that this is serious. These men deserve to be treated fairly. Just stop pretending this kid did nothing wrong it insane.

Oh, they'll be treated fairly -- once they're incarcerated. Inmates love cops.

you sound like a terrorist.. you want two innocent men in jail to die for political reasons, to race bait.. you are a terrorist

Well they murdered someone, so why is it unfair for them to face the same consequences?

In self defense? You terrorist

It wasn't in self defense. Georgia law does not protect the aggressor in an altercation with self defense. And Travis McMichael was the aggressor by arming himself with no knowledge of Arbery but with the intent to chase him down and stop him.

We clearly see the black kid darting in front of the truck to attack the son.. standing there with a shotgun is not an active and aggression he saying stop stop we want to talk to you

Liar, McMichael couldn't have just been standing there. Scotty didn't beam him from about 4 feet to the left of the truck to being in front of it.

He was asking him to stop so they could talk..

Which brings me back to ... with Travis block the road with a shotgun, why should Arbery have assumed they only wanted to talk?

Because they had been chasing the person for a good time. There is more info on this in the police report. But it is very inconceivable that at this point, he did not know what the deal was.

There was no reason for them to stop Arbery so there was no reason for why Arbery would know why they wanted him to stop.

They suspected him of burglary.

He was reported to 911.

No reason? Please...

How did they know he was suspected of burglary if the call went to 911?

maybe they live across the street or something. why do you think it matters? I can stop anyone and ask them questions. you still haven't answered why you feel that's a crime.

They don't live across the street. Brandishing a gun is illegal dumbass!

If they just wanted to talk to him, why carry a gun?

post the statute then. The guy in the back of the truck an ex police officer I'd think knows his laws and what he can do. Experience they call that. why does it matter if they had a gun? you still didn't answer. In fact you haven't answered or provided any evidence for your position. I have the video for mine. still waiting.

Why should I do that? It has been posted numerous times in the thread. Are you too fucking lazy to do your homework. What are you 12 years old?

well it states pointing a weapon. you still haven't stated when that happened. why not? five times now I've asked you to show us that evidence. Why do you avoid that? so,so far no statute has been posted to describe a crime.

The suspect obviously points the gun at the victim and in the struggle shoots the victim. Watch the video with your eyes open. That might help, dumbass!

obviously when? tell me where in the video that occurs. come on son, I've asked now six times. you still avoid the answer. what you said is inadmissible at this point.

it happens in front of the truck - the first of three shots. As the shooter and victim struggle for control of the shotgun as the fight moves to the left. The man who was shot for jogging while black is the only one acting in self defense because he was attacked.


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He was attacked while charging... this must be the stupidest thing I read all day.

Once the person charged at a man with shotgun, yeah he was attacked as SELF DEFENSE.

Why are these people so perplexed by something so obvious?

Because they are adult children aka. leftists.

And then a few conservatives who are very content on never EVER conserving anything.

This isn’t self defense when two armed people block the path of an unarmed man for no reason of their own and shoot him in the chest, it’s an execution.

BTW I’m not a leftist, I’m a church going, God praising,Trump Supporting conservative and a 40 year registered Republican. What I’m not is a conservative sheeple who feels like they have to justify stupidity by making it a political issue.

You must not have watched the video....it is clear as day that the jogger had plenty of room to keep on jogging down the road...his path was not blocked.

It is also very clear that the jogger veered to the left and attacked the guy with the shotgun.

I will tell you what you really are ---a politically correct moron that is very confused....let me try and help you....first quit watching the alphabet media news and fox is not much better.....the media are the ones who have made this case a political case....essentially engaging in race baiting to incite hysteria amongst blacks as well as a lot of duped white folk.

Let me ask you this since you think the white guy shot the black guy in cold blood? Since that is what you believe...if it is true he must have had some reason for committing murder. What was his motive?

Also you need to remember the father called the police before they took off in pursuit of the black criminal...vigilantes do not call the police.

Something else ....do you know the criminal history of the black dude....he took a gun to school....a felony. He was placed on 5yrs probation for that and then violated his probation by stealing...at the time of his death he was in violation of his probation....he should have been in jail but because of black privilege aka the double-standard that comes into play when blacks committ crimes.

Also the black guy had a mental history...the former D.A.cited his mental history as one reason they did not put him in jail....someone had sympathy for him because he had mental problems..

Rest assured I saw the video. I saw two armed individuals illegally blocking a jogger.
Arberys past has zero to do with this incident unless you are saying that the McMichaels knew Arbreys wrap sheet before this incident which could be seen as some level of premeditation on the part of the McMichaels. The reality is according to the police Arbery had no stolen property on him nor was he armed. Two against one, guns,not good odds to charge someone. It was straight up bullying of Arbery not protecting the neighborhood and not citizens arrest.

Where do you see this?

On every news station out there.

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In the video Arbery’s jogging down the road. The truck as you can see is stopped, the truck door is open and to the right there’s one of the McMichaels standing in the road. Arbery’s swerves to the yellow arrow so as not to pass by the door and McMichael in the street waiting for him. After that the camera pans and it’s hard to see until McMichael and Arbery’s are fighting over the gun. They chased, blocked and harassed Arbery. They had no right to do so. They knew they were armed. They killed a 25 year old over nothing. They violated Arbery’s rights. That’s what the jury will see. They will rot in jail now that the feds are investigating and they don’t have the protection of the local police department.

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First of all he is not standing to the right...he is standing to the left and slightly to the front of the truck. Your first mistake

Now for your second error.....arbery does not swerve to the yellow arrow...instead he goes to the right to get around the truck Then he immediately swerves to the left and attacks the white guy standing there with the shotgun.....if you watch the video again look through the windshield and you will see the black guy crossing
the front of the truck and attacking the white guy trying to take away his gun.

No...they did not chase....they simply followed him in the truck and then went ahead of him and parked....at no time was arbery blocked...he had plenty of room to get around the truck and he did and then instead of jogging on down the road he quickly swerved to the left and attacked the white guy.

When you have a weapon and someone attacks you and tries to get possession of your weapon you are legally entitled to use lethal force in self defense..spelled out by the Georgia law on self defense.

Thus it is easily seen your narrative is full of holes...you have a severe lack of ability to observe and report what is readily seen by most. Why is that? Some kind of cognitive problem?
Watch the video again...I am talking about the complete video.....not the edited one the msm has put out....maybe that is what got you confused...you watched the wrong video???

He went around the truck. Your words. Why? Because McMichael was in the road BLOCKING HIS WAY. If he hadn’t felt threatened, if he hadn’t been blocked by McMichael and the truck door which is wide open, he would have passed to the left of the truck. But clearly he was blocked and went to the right.

Chase was the word the police used, not mine. The police said McMichael CHASED Arbery, not followed. Read the articles I posted it’s there.

you are neglecting to acknowledge they fact that the McMichaels aren’t cops. It’s not their job to follow, chase or confront anyone. It’s not their job to assume somebody they don’t know on a property of someone they don’t know is a thief. Their job it to report it and let the cops handle it not go all Wild West on a stranger gun him down in the middle of the road. You refuse to acknowledge that McMichael had no business being in that road committing a traffic violation. Arbery wouldn’t have been anywhere near McMichael if McMichael hadn’t been acting like a dick and instigated the whole thing. They gave chase, confronted a person and shot him for nothing and now they have to pay the price.

Ridiculous commentary. Anyhow.....again.....the white guys did nothing illegal.

The black guy was a criminal...as in had a criminal record. Took a gun to school....stole stuff...violated his probation ....should have been in jail but nothing was done....thus he roamed the streets day and night apparantly doing some very weird stuff....but the mdeia is doing their best to put him up there on the shelf with mother teresa.

Speaking of mothers ahmuad's mother did love him...must have been a difficult thing to do. but i guess once you give birth there is a bond formed even if the kid is a mental defect.

Why should he have been in jail? His probation was over!

Speaking of mental defects, how are you today?

Because he was a burglar.

You know this how?

He already has a history of stealing, and he was caught on video looking around a house under construction. It seems fairly obvious that he was looking for tools to steal. You can play dumb if you want to, but dont expect the rest of us to join your foolishness.

^^^ A moron who think not stealing is looking to steal.

Why is he so cautious if he was there doing legitimate business?

He was almost certainly a burglar.

hehheh according to one liberal he was studying construction methods...whilst loitering around there at night. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Prove he was not. The only location we have any evidence of him actually physically visiting is an under construction house. The owner of that house says that nothing was stolen. Nothing is missing. So The suspicions of burglary are at best shaky. Hard to argue it is reasonable when he visited the house several times, was never told to leave, and nothing was ever found to be missing.

The problem with that theory for you is that all Blacks are criminals in your mind. The problem for the McMichaels is that they need to testify about why they had a reasonable suspicion. If they do they are open to cross examination and that will be their doom. It is likely to remove the reasonable doubt that may save them.

Was never told to leave?

That's not exactly why 911 was called.

Who can tell him to leave since you are the expert in Georgia Law?

Stop being retarded and sounding like a leftist. This was a known thing in the hood, with the last confrontation two weeks prior. Obviously the neighbor can ask him to leave. However, this is not relevant.

Actually it is relevant. You see if the house was open he was not breaking in. He was Trespassing. There the Neighbors could if they had discussed it with the owner tell him to leave. But since they did not either discuss it or tell him to leave he was not even technically in violation of the Trespassing Statute.

Now you say there was a history. Ok. The history was of AA entering the house. The owner of the house said he didn’t know and didn’t care. Nothing was stolen. The history was also of neighbors calling the cops. The reason there was no burglary report is again nothing was taken.

So here we are. Imagine the trial. And there is going to be a trial unless the McMichaels start to smarten up. I had reasonable suspicion that he was stealing things. Ok who told you he had stolen anything? Why did you not discuss it with the owner. Who did you discuss it with who was associated with the house? It goes downhill from there. And before he leaves the stand he looks like one of the Grand Poobahs of the KKK. Not great for the image to the jury.

Or he can refuse to testify. Absolutely his right. Then they play his statement to the police that was recorded on body cameras. Then they ask the police if they believed the story.

Holy wall of irrelevance.

Burglary is what he committed. Call back when you are ready to conserve something, then I am interested.

What burglary? Are you still lying about this?

Umm the one in the video lol many times

There was no burglary shown on video. Seems you're still stupid.

I highly dispute that there was no burglary shown in the video. That was almost certainly a burglary.

Great, show where. Post the video and tell the forum at what mark in it can he be seen burglarizing.....

In this clip I am sure you have seen.



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Sure, now point out the moment he either stole something or intended to steal something.....

umm is this a serious question? The hammer and video of him in the house

There is no hammer and just being in a house under construction does not mean someone is there to steal something.

Sadly, your dementia persists.

Under ga law The dwelling could be vacant and it’s still a felony.. this place had Veryuipment in there

This nonsense of yours has been thoroughly smashed with actual Georgia law which shows at worst, he trespassed ... and trespassing is not a felony.

who cares what it was they called the cops on the perp, and were attacked

LOLOL

You dumbfuck -- the law cares what it is.

Have you always been this retarded? Or have you been hitting yourself in the head with your mysterious hammer?

And if he did nothing wrong he would have stopped and said HEY I was just checking it out! He wasn’t his intentions were bad, and he got shot

Nope. No one with a brain would have stopped for two fools yelling out of their pickup truck to stop.

Especially if you just robbed a place

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The position that Arbery was lunging at the shotgun as self-defense is beyond absurd

Well, won't that be comforting to the two hillbillies charged with murder that their Trump U graduate lawyer on USMB already has gotten them off...

 

[MacTheKnife]

Except, that’s fiction.

Playing is defining what is the fictitious.

So the jogger alters his route to go around the truck on the right side in order to avoid the gunman with a shotgun standing on the left side of the truck.

But as the jogger tried to put distance between him and the gunman the gunman circles around to the front of the truck and into the joggers path with a shotgun.

The jury is asked to choose which of the two men was the aggressor in that one tries to avoid the other and the other circled to confront. And a shot was fired at the moment when the two men came together.

Why not tell us what you see as being fictitious In the above.


The jury will see the very same video that I am looking at.

Do you think the the defense attorneys will be like trump and mark up the video and draw a little stickMan with a shotgun standing harmlessly on the left side of the truck because that’s where you say shotgun man has been the whole time. And the jury will be sold on that

As long as no one talks during viewing, they’ll see the real video. Man runs toward truck with man ahead with a gun, instead of stopping and wondering why the fk that guy in front has a gun and turn the open other way instead runs toward the gun. He then veers right to the passenger side and runs past the truck and instead of continuing his jog, he veers left to dance with the gun.

Exactly right........and the jury will have no problem at all agreeing with that....even if it goes to trial....the grand jury may put an end to this b.s. caused by a dis-honest media and lame politicians ......not even to mention that today the lawyer for the McMichaels says there is much more to the story than has been told but it will all come out in the trial....another signal that state has a very weak case....and when all the evidence comes in ....a even weaker case.

 

[Norman]

Facts of this case......a father and son associated with law enforcement and never in trouble of any kind, never arrested for anything but are called criminals by the liberals

vs.

The black jogger............who comidtted a felony (brought a gun to school) was convicted placed on 5 yrs probation.

The he engaged in theft thus violating his probation.....but nothing was done...he should have been in jail. If he had been where he belonged he would still be alive.

Yet the liberals want us to believe he is just so innocent...he ranks right up there with Mother Teresa
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Then just like the the Zimmerman case the media plays games with photos..........show the best possible photo of the black dude they could find......but show the white dudes in their jail outfit.

Keep tuned this case is getting crazier by the second.

Latest development....video emerges of the black dude visiting that same home at night....what is that all about? Did he have some sort of obsession with that house....maybe Satan lured him there...as in the devil made him do it???

Miscarriage of justice,, poor guys are being lynched by democrats

And the Earth is Flat. We faked the moon landing. Artificial Sweeteners are good for you, and Anna Nicole married for Love. Any other insane conspiracy theories you believe in besides these?

They did nothing wrong, if you stop pretending the black did nothing wrong it might dawn on you that this is serious. These men deserve to be treated fairly. Just stop pretending this kid did nothing wrong it insane.

Oh, they'll be treated fairly -- once they're incarcerated. Inmates love cops.

you sound like a terrorist.. you want two innocent men in jail to die for political reasons, to race bait.. you are a terrorist

Well they murdered someone, so why is it unfair for them to face the same consequences?

In self defense? You terrorist

It wasn't in self defense. Georgia law does not protect the aggressor in an altercation with self defense. And Travis McMichael was the aggressor by arming himself with no knowledge of Arbery but with the intent to chase him down and stop him.

We clearly see the black kid darting in front of the truck to attack the son.. standing there with a shotgun is not an active and aggression he saying stop stop we want to talk to you

Liar, McMichael couldn't have just been standing there. Scotty didn't beam him from about 4 feet to the left of the truck to being in front of it.

He was asking him to stop so they could talk..

Which brings me back to ... with Travis block the road with a shotgun, why should Arbery have assumed they only wanted to talk?

Because they had been chasing the person for a good time. There is more info on this in the police report. But it is very inconceivable that at this point, he did not know what the deal was.

There was no reason for them to stop Arbery so there was no reason for why Arbery would know why they wanted him to stop.

They suspected him of burglary.

He was reported to 911.

No reason? Please...

How did they know he was suspected of burglary if the call went to 911?

maybe they live across the street or something. why do you think it matters? I can stop anyone and ask them questions. you still haven't answered why you feel that's a crime.

They don't live across the street. Brandishing a gun is illegal dumbass!

If they just wanted to talk to him, why carry a gun?

post the statute then. The guy in the back of the truck an ex police officer I'd think knows his laws and what he can do. Experience they call that. why does it matter if they had a gun? you still didn't answer. In fact you haven't answered or provided any evidence for your position. I have the video for mine. still waiting.

Why should I do that? It has been posted numerous times in the thread. Are you too fucking lazy to do your homework. What are you 12 years old?

well it states pointing a weapon. you still haven't stated when that happened. why not? five times now I've asked you to show us that evidence. Why do you avoid that? so,so far no statute has been posted to describe a crime.

The suspect obviously points the gun at the victim and in the struggle shoots the victim. Watch the video with your eyes open. That might help, dumbass!

obviously when? tell me where in the video that occurs. come on son, I've asked now six times. you still avoid the answer. what you said is inadmissible at this point.

it happens in front of the truck - the first of three shots. As the shooter and victim struggle for control of the shotgun as the fight moves to the left. The man who was shot for jogging while black is the only one acting in self defense because he was attacked.


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He was attacked while charging... this must be the stupidest thing I read all day.

Once the person charged at a man with shotgun, yeah he was attacked as SELF DEFENSE.

Why are these people so perplexed by something so obvious?

Because they are adult children aka. leftists.

And then a few conservatives who are very content on never EVER conserving anything.

This isn’t self defense when two armed people block the path of an unarmed man for no reason of their own and shoot him in the chest, it’s an execution.

BTW I’m not a leftist, I’m a church going, God praising,Trump Supporting conservative and a 40 year registered Republican. What I’m not is a conservative sheeple who feels like they have to justify stupidity by making it a political issue.

You must not have watched the video....it is clear as day that the jogger had plenty of room to keep on jogging down the road...his path was not blocked.

It is also very clear that the jogger veered to the left and attacked the guy with the shotgun.

I will tell you what you really are ---a politically correct moron that is very confused....let me try and help you....first quit watching the alphabet media news and fox is not much better.....the media are the ones who have made this case a political case....essentially engaging in race baiting to incite hysteria amongst blacks as well as a lot of duped white folk.

Let me ask you this since you think the white guy shot the black guy in cold blood? Since that is what you believe...if it is true he must have had some reason for committing murder. What was his motive?

Also you need to remember the father called the police before they took off in pursuit of the black criminal...vigilantes do not call the police.

Something else ....do you know the criminal history of the black dude....he took a gun to school....a felony. He was placed on 5yrs probation for that and then violated his probation by stealing...at the time of his death he was in violation of his probation....he should have been in jail but because of black privilege aka the double-standard that comes into play when blacks committ crimes.

Also the black guy had a mental history...the former D.A.cited his mental history as one reason they did not put him in jail....someone had sympathy for him because he had mental problems..

Rest assured I saw the video. I saw two armed individuals illegally blocking a jogger.
Arberys past has zero to do with this incident unless you are saying that the McMichaels knew Arbreys wrap sheet before this incident which could be seen as some level of premeditation on the part of the McMichaels. The reality is according to the police Arbery had no stolen property on him nor was he armed. Two against one, guns,not good odds to charge someone. It was straight up bullying of Arbery not protecting the neighborhood and not citizens arrest.

Where do you see this?

On every news station out there.

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In the video Arbery’s jogging down the road. The truck as you can see is stopped, the truck door is open and to the right there’s one of the McMichaels standing in the road. Arbery’s swerves to the yellow arrow so as not to pass by the door and McMichael in the street waiting for him. After that the camera pans and it’s hard to see until McMichael and Arbery’s are fighting over the gun. They chased, blocked and harassed Arbery. They had no right to do so. They knew they were armed. They killed a 25 year old over nothing. They violated Arbery’s rights. That’s what the jury will see. They will rot in jail now that the feds are investigating and they don’t have the protection of the local police department.

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First of all he is not standing to the right...he is standing to the left and slightly to the front of the truck. Your first mistake

Now for your second error.....arbery does not swerve to the yellow arrow...instead he goes to the right to get around the truck Then he immediately swerves to the left and attacks the white guy standing there with the shotgun.....if you watch the video again look through the windshield and you will see the black guy crossing
the front of the truck and attacking the white guy trying to take away his gun.

No...they did not chase....they simply followed him in the truck and then went ahead of him and parked....at no time was arbery blocked...he had plenty of room to get around the truck and he did and then instead of jogging on down the road he quickly swerved to the left and attacked the white guy.

When you have a weapon and someone attacks you and tries to get possession of your weapon you are legally entitled to use lethal force in self defense..spelled out by the Georgia law on self defense.

Thus it is easily seen your narrative is full of holes...you have a severe lack of ability to observe and report what is readily seen by most. Why is that? Some kind of cognitive problem?
Watch the video again...I am talking about the complete video.....not the edited one the msm has put out....maybe that is what got you confused...you watched the wrong video???

He went around the truck. Your words. Why? Because McMichael was in the road BLOCKING HIS WAY. If he hadn’t felt threatened, if he hadn’t been blocked by McMichael and the truck door which is wide open, he would have passed to the left of the truck. But clearly he was blocked and went to the right.

Chase was the word the police used, not mine. The police said McMichael CHASED Arbery, not followed. Read the articles I posted it’s there.

you are neglecting to acknowledge they fact that the McMichaels aren’t cops. It’s not their job to follow, chase or confront anyone. It’s not their job to assume somebody they don’t know on a property of someone they don’t know is a thief. Their job it to report it and let the cops handle it not go all Wild West on a stranger gun him down in the middle of the road. You refuse to acknowledge that McMichael had no business being in that road committing a traffic violation. Arbery wouldn’t have been anywhere near McMichael if McMichael hadn’t been acting like a dick and instigated the whole thing. They gave chase, confronted a person and shot him for nothing and now they have to pay the price.

Ridiculous commentary. Anyhow.....again.....the white guys did nothing illegal.

The black guy was a criminal...as in had a criminal record. Took a gun to school....stole stuff...violated his probation ....should have been in jail but nothing was done....thus he roamed the streets day and night apparantly doing some very weird stuff....but the mdeia is doing their best to put him up there on the shelf with mother teresa.

Speaking of mothers ahmuad's mother did love him...must have been a difficult thing to do. but i guess once you give birth there is a bond formed even if the kid is a mental defect.

Why should he have been in jail? His probation was over!

Speaking of mental defects, how are you today?

Because he was a burglar.

You know this how?

He already has a history of stealing, and he was caught on video looking around a house under construction. It seems fairly obvious that he was looking for tools to steal. You can play dumb if you want to, but dont expect the rest of us to join your foolishness.

^^^ A moron who think not stealing is looking to steal.

Why is he so cautious if he was there doing legitimate business?

He was almost certainly a burglar.

hehheh according to one liberal he was studying construction methods...whilst loitering around there at night. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Prove he was not. The only location we have any evidence of him actually physically visiting is an under construction house. The owner of that house says that nothing was stolen. Nothing is missing. So The suspicions of burglary are at best shaky. Hard to argue it is reasonable when he visited the house several times, was never told to leave, and nothing was ever found to be missing.

The problem with that theory for you is that all Blacks are criminals in your mind. The problem for the McMichaels is that they need to testify about why they had a reasonable suspicion. If they do they are open to cross examination and that will be their doom. It is likely to remove the reasonable doubt that may save them.

Was never told to leave?

That's not exactly why 911 was called.

Who can tell him to leave since you are the expert in Georgia Law?

Stop being retarded and sounding like a leftist. This was a known thing in the hood, with the last confrontation two weeks prior. Obviously the neighbor can ask him to leave. However, this is not relevant.

Actually it is relevant. You see if the house was open he was not breaking in. He was Trespassing. There the Neighbors could if they had discussed it with the owner tell him to leave. But since they did not either discuss it or tell him to leave he was not even technically in violation of the Trespassing Statute.

Now you say there was a history. Ok. The history was of AA entering the house. The owner of the house said he didn’t know and didn’t care. Nothing was stolen. The history was also of neighbors calling the cops. The reason there was no burglary report is again nothing was taken.

So here we are. Imagine the trial. And there is going to be a trial unless the McMichaels start to smarten up. I had reasonable suspicion that he was stealing things. Ok who told you he had stolen anything? Why did you not discuss it with the owner. Who did you discuss it with who was associated with the house? It goes downhill from there. And before he leaves the stand he looks like one of the Grand Poobahs of the KKK. Not great for the image to the jury.

Or he can refuse to testify. Absolutely his right. Then they play his statement to the police that was recorded on body cameras. Then they ask the police if they believed the story.

Holy wall of irrelevance.

Burglary is what he committed. Call back when you are ready to conserve something, then I am interested.

What burglary? Are you still lying about this?

Umm the one in the video lol many times

There was no burglary shown on video. Seems you're still stupid.

I highly dispute that there was no burglary shown in the video. That was almost certainly a burglary.

Great, show where. Post the video and tell the forum at what mark in it can he be seen burglarizing.....

In this clip I am sure you have seen.



or this

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Sure, now point out the moment he either stole something or intended to steal something.....

umm is this a serious question? The hammer and video of him in the house

There is no hammer and just being in a house under construction does not mean someone is there to steal something.

Sadly, your dementia persists.

Under ga law The dwelling could be vacant and it’s still a felony.. this place had Veryuipment in there

This nonsense of yours has been thoroughly smashed with actual Georgia law which shows at worst, he trespassed ... and trespassing is not a felony.

who cares what it was they called the cops on the perp, and were attacked

LOLOL

You dumbfuck -- the law cares what it is.

Have you always been this retarded? Or have you been hitting yourself in the head with your mysterious hammer?

And if he did nothing wrong he would have stopped and said HEY I was just checking it out! He wasn’t his intentions were bad, and he got shot

Nope. No one with a brain would have stopped for two fools yelling out of their pickup truck to stop.

Especially if you just robbed a place

Stopping would have been too difficult.

However assaulting, no problem.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There was an escape from a crime scene, after a quick rob.

Oh yeah? What did he rob? Oh wait, you're just making shit up again.

 

[Norman]

There was an escape from a crime scene, after a quick rob.

Oh yeah? What did he rob? Oh wait, you're just making shit up again.

I am referring to the burglary, in common language that constitutes a rob.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I am referring to the burglary, in common language that constitutes a rob.

In what we call "english" something is taken during a robbery, under threat of force.

So, what did he take?

 

[MacTheKnife]

they never detained anyone.

IDIOT. Worse they shot and killed him put him on the pavement for jogging while black.


Dead on the road never able to move again.

If that is not detained I don’t know what is.,


And this is the view on the left side of the truck when the first shot was fired.

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Do you think the shooter was on the left or to the right?

If to the right he has to be obstructing the jogger’s path with shotgun point it.

That clearly was an attempt to detain when the gun went off within a few feet of the jogger’s intend rout.

When the shot was fired - there is no self defense for the shooter because he fired and possibly wounded his target. That it was clearly initiated the combat.

he is dead due to his own reaction. thanks, the video shows him attacking the man with the gun, holding the gun, struggling to remove the gun from the owner's hands. it's in the video. go look.

he is dead due to his own reaction. thanks, the video shows him attacking the man with the gun, holding the gun, struggling to remove the gun from the owner's hands. it's in the video. go look.

What you are calling the jogger’s attack is after a shot was fired which means the jogger was responding to an attack in the only way he could which was to take the gun away from the madman just shot him.

The first shot wasnt fired until after he was attacked. Watch the video. Its very obvious.

Here's the frame at the precise moment of the first shot. You can see by their shadows, which lean slightly to the right, that they're about 2½ to 3 feet apart. Good luck to the McMichaels in court proving he didn't shoot until he was attacked even though Travis by that point, had already run about 6 feet towards Arbery.

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bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa those may be shadows or maybe just a dark spot on the pavement....certainly not evidence of anything except to someone like you with your biased opinion.

You are grasping at straws boyo. Now get the hell out of here with such stupidity. As in take a hike. Clear your mind...try and think straight and then apologize for wasting our time. hehheh

I had suspicions before you were black...now I am pretty much convinced of it.

According to the prosecutor report it can't even be ruled out that Arbery himself pulled the shotgun which made it go off.

Very possible....by pulling on the barrel of the gun if the white guy had his finger on the trigger it could have easily caused the weapon to discharge.

 

[Norman]

I am referring to the burglary, in common language that constitutes a rob.

In what we call "english" something is taken during a robbery, under threat of force.

So, what did he take?

Burglars are often referred to as robbers. Are you one?

 

[Norman]

they never detained anyone.

IDIOT. Worse they shot and killed him put him on the pavement for jogging while black.


Dead on the road never able to move again.

If that is not detained I don’t know what is.,


And this is the view on the left side of the truck when the first shot was fired.

View attachment 335915


Do you think the shooter was on the left or to the right?

If to the right he has to be obstructing the jogger’s path with shotgun point it.

That clearly was an attempt to detain when the gun went off within a few feet of the jogger’s intend rout.

When the shot was fired - there is no self defense for the shooter because he fired and possibly wounded his target. That it was clearly initiated the combat.

he is dead due to his own reaction. thanks, the video shows him attacking the man with the gun, holding the gun, struggling to remove the gun from the owner's hands. it's in the video. go look.

he is dead due to his own reaction. thanks, the video shows him attacking the man with the gun, holding the gun, struggling to remove the gun from the owner's hands. it's in the video. go look.

What you are calling the jogger’s attack is after a shot was fired which means the jogger was responding to an attack in the only way he could which was to take the gun away from the madman just shot him.

The first shot wasnt fired until after he was attacked. Watch the video. Its very obvious.

Here's the frame at the precise moment of the first shot. You can see by their shadows, which lean slightly to the right, that they're about 2½ to 3 feet apart. Good luck to the McMichaels in court proving he didn't shoot until he was attacked even though Travis by that point, had already run about 6 feet towards Arbery.

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bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa those may be shadows or maybe just a dark spot on the pavement....certainly not evidence of anything except to someone like you with your biased opinion.

You are grasping at straws boyo. Now get the hell out of here with such stupidity. As in take a hike. Clear your mind...try and think straight and then apologize for wasting our time. hehheh

I had suspicions before you were black...now I am pretty much convinced of it.

According to the prosecutor report it can't even be ruled out that Arbery himself pulled the shotgun which made it go off.

Very possible....by pulling on the barrel of the gun if the white guy had his finger on the trigger it could have easily caused the weapon to discharge.

Yes, this one was one of the sleekest unintentional suicides captured on a video. Leftists should watch it like one of those "things gone very wrong" videos.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Very possible....by pulling on the barrel of the gun if the white guy had his finger on the trigger it could have easily caused the weapon to discharge.

Except the idiot hillbilly already admitted he pulled the trigger. So, crackpot theory number 9,578 out the window..

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Burglars are often referred to as robbers.

By people who don't know better. But since i just explained it to you, now you know better.

Trespassers are not referred to as burglars, either. Depending on the skin color, naturally.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Having a shotgun on you is NOT threatening anyone with a shotgun.

No, but using it in order to compel someone to obey your orders certainly is threatening...

They were following the black man for a good while, and if they wanted could have shot him at any moment. It's clear they wanted to stop him and arrest him.

As clear as mud.

Having the opportunity to do something and not doing it at that exact opportunity does not necessarily indicate an unwillingness to do something. They could've chosen to wait for any number of reasons...

He lunged at a shotgun and that's that.

There's not an amount of money I wouldn't wager that says you're proven wrong...

Stopping a criminal fleeing a crime is perfectly fine.

Put up the money then.

At the time they stopped him, they had no knowledge of any crime having just been committed. They just saw a black man running.

That matters...

That is false, there had been a string of burglaries in the hood. When someone runs and does not stop... you have a suspicion. The suspicion turned out to be correct.

In order for them to be acting legally, Arbery not only had to be fleeing the scene of a crime, but Travis McMichael had to know that Arbery was fleeing the scene of a crime. He didn't.

If you're running down the street and some random guy with a shot gun tells you to stop and you do, you're stupid.

To McMichael's knowledge, Arbery was running, and that was all. Whether he was running from having committed a crime was unknown to McMichael, and that matters.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand that?

Reasonable suspicion. There have been cases like this before.

If someone keeps running not stopping when asked and there have been burglaries and he matches the characteristics. Well...

"Wll", what?

Not only does he has to be fleeing the scene of a crime, Travis McMichael needs to know he was fleeing the scene of a crime, and he didn't. Previous burglaries do not justify McMichael's actions or mitigate the illegality of them...

Again reasonable suspicion, probable cause...

No, they DON'T need to know he was fleeing a crime. They only need to have PROBABLE REASON to believe so, which they had.

He would have had to commit a felony -- which he didn't.

He committed a felony when he attacked the guy.

Nope, he was acting in self-defense. Self-defense is not a felony.

No one attacked him. You cant claim self defense without offense.

Retard ... show where the self-defense law states you have to first be attacked to resort to self-defense...

Here, let me help you out since you apparently need help ... it doesn't. The minimum that's required is to prevent an "imminent use of unlawful force"...

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(a) A person is justified in threatening or using force against another when and to the extent that he or she reasonably believes that such threat or force is necessary to defend himself or herself or a third person against such other's imminent use of unlawful force; however, except as provided in Code Section 16-3-23 , a person is justified in using force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily injury to himself or herself or a third person or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.​

They had already encountered each other before that. These guys clearly werent a threat, he was just mad that they werent letting him get away, so he attacked. If he was scared, he wouldnt have been running TOWARDS them.

Absolutely....and the state thinks they have a case....or do they just want to put them on trial to curry favor with Negroes?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

or do they just want to put them on trial to curry favor with Negroes

Obviously this is the retarded ramblings of someone with racism issues. If they bring it to trial and the hillbillies get off, that will worsen the relationship with black people.

 

[Norman]

Burglars are often referred to as robbers.

By people who don't know better. But since i just explained it to you, now you know better.

Trespassers are not referred to as burglars, either. Depending on the skin color, naturally.

Nah, unfortunately words are not defined literally in the common language we speak.

Robber, not jogger.

#IRobWithArbery

 

[MacTheKnife]

Very possible....by pulling on the barrel of the gun if the white guy had his finger on the trigger it could have easily caused the weapon to discharge.

Except the idiot hillbilly already admitted he pulled the trigger. So, crackpot theory number 9,578 out the window..

He fired twice after the first shot. Not clear if he was referring to all 3 shots.

Irregardless ...makes no difference if he did pull the trigger on all 3 shots.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

ah, unfortunately words are not defined literally in the common language we speak.

We don't appear to speak the same language. I speak English. You speak a language where the words are dependent on skin color. What should we call it? Hillbilly-ese?