New Documents Show Obama Involved In The Flynn Scandal

[PoliticalChic]

1. It is always dangerous to point out that the idol, the worshiped one, the one they called god, Jesus and the messiah, had 'feet of clay.'
And, a head to match.

But....even worse, that he is an evil, malevolent, iniquitous individual deserving of contumely and jail time.
And....he is.



2. Now that the facts about the Flynn perjury trap are no longer deniable, let's get to the head of the problem.

"Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe
There are new texts allegedly showing that the Obama White House, the CIA, the FBI, and top Democrats colluded at the outset of the Russia probe.

...coordination between former President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, and CIA Director John Brennan —which they say would “contradict” the Obama administration’s public stance about its hand in the process."
Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe

and

"Clapper: Obama Ordered The Intelligence Assessment That Resulted In Mueller Investigation"
Clapper: Obama Ordered The Intelligence Assessment That Resulted In Mueller Investigation



3. When Hussein had his meeting with Trump, he warned him of two things.

One was North Korea.
The other was of Flynn

"Obama Warned Trump Against Hiring Flynn
In 2014, Mr. Obama, a Democrat, fired the then-lieutenant general from that senior Pentagon post. "

Obama Warned Trump Against Hiring Flynn

Former President Barack Obama warned then President-elect Donald Trump against hiring Mike Flynn as his national security adviser because of Mr. Flynn’s checkered service as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

www.wsj.com

4. Why the enmity?
One simple reason.....Flynn opposed Hussein Obama's signature foreign policy aim: to nuclear arm his co-religionists in the 7th century barbarian kingdom. Flynn saw through the absurd plan to arm the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism, and advance a deal that never had any inspections of the murderous blood-drenched savages.

"Obama Allies Torpedoed Flynn to Protect Iran Deal
...moving behind the scenes to kneecap someone they've long viewed as a threat to the future of their signature accord.
... include former Obama administration adviser Ben Rhodes—the architect of a separate White House effort to create what he described as a pro-Iran echo chamber—included a small task force of Obama loyalists who deluged media outlets with stories aimed at eroding Flynn's credibility, multiple sources revealed."

Report: Obama Allies Torpedoed Flynn to Protect Iran Deal

Subterfuge.

townhall.com

5. "Why would he be of anywhere near that importance to be put in the same conversation as the nuclear-armed dictator of North Korea?

The answer, I believe, is a four letter word: Iran.

The Iran Deal (Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action or JCPOA) was, with the Affordable Care Act, one of the twin pillars of Obama’s presidency on which he wanted to base his legacy."

Why was Mike Flynn targeted by Obama and FBI?

Roger Simon: The more we learn about the evils done to Michael Flynn, and they increase day by day, the more the FBI comes to resemble the...

prairiepundit.blogspot.com

Arming the homicidal and pathological Iranian regime is a threat to America, and to Western Civilization.
And Flynn was simply collateral damage.

 

[BWK]

We would certainly hope so. It happens to be their job. And by the way, Flynn took Flynn down, no one else. flynn had no business cutting deals with russia behind the back of a sitting president. Thanks for the link. It exposes the treasonous act by Flynn, while he was cutting deals with an adversary. Lock his ass up and throw away the key.

ChiCom Troll. What "treasonous act" by Flynn do you refer to? Flynn had EVERY right and responsibility to speak to the Russian ambassador, he was the incoming national security advisor, you fucking retard.

Look, you're just a ChiCom troll, not worthy of bothering with - but step your game up retard.

No, he had no right whatsoever. Flynn had no official government role at the time, while telling Russia what they needed to do in regards to the sanctions. Then he lied that the conversation ever took place. We had sanctions against Russia, and Flynn was cutting deals with an adversary that invaded Ukraine, and he did all this behind the back of a sitting president. Put him in jail for going against our country.

 

[BWK]

criminal investigation of who ordered this needs to be launched by the DOJ....

What crime is being investigated?

CONSPIRACY!!!

Conspiracy to do what?

To frame a sitting president in a crime...ummmm sounds illegal to me....

Totally delusional. No one tried to frame anyone.

We have the documents that prove the FBI tried to frame Flynn...aren't you paying attention?...what news agency are you watching?...

Flynn wasn’t framed. I’m paying attention. Are you?

Yes he was....The prosecution deliberately failed to adhere to disclosure rules and laws, including all the exculpitory evidence they had on hand......That is the very definition of a frame-up.

Nope. “Framing” someone means making it look like the defendant did something he didn’t actually do. There was no framing here. Flynn lied. We all know he did.

The prosecution has not failed to follow the disclosure rules. No exculpatory evidence has been revealed.

Fucking commie moron.

Strzok, Comey and Weissman lied REPEATEDLY to Ltg. Flynn. They BRAG about lying to entrap Flynn (per orders from Obama). Flynn "lied" about a materially insignificant issue (time/date) that even traitor Comey acknowledged was a lapse of memory.

YOU FUCKING TRAITORS rigged the 2016 election, and when that failed, you moved on to this attempted coup.

The whole lot of you must be executed. (Except Mueller - he was not mentally competent during any of this.)

None of this of course is true, nor can it be proven. As a matter of fact, by way of evidence and documentation, everything you just said, is exactly the opposite.

 

[MarathonMike]

Obama's stuttering stammering response about his concern for the "Rule of Law" was hilarious. He spent 8 years walking all over the "Rule of Law" to push through what he wanted.

 

[OldLady]

So Obama chased out Flynn because he opposed the Iran deal. That makes Obama a criminal. Yet it was perfectly alright for Trump to fire how many people, like Sessions, Tillerson, et al. for not going along with Trump's agenda.

Maybe that is what Presidents do? Seems to be.

And as far as the Russia probe, are you seriously criticizing Obama and the Intelligence Agencies and the FBI from looking into the widespread Russian interference in the election they had uncovered? Would you have ignored it? Both the articles you supplied were from 2018 AFTER the infamous Trump Tower meeting with that Russian lawyer. Do you see no possible tie to the Trump campaign when the emails SAID the Russian government was assisting the Trump campaign?

 

[berg80]

No, he had no right whatsoever. Flynn had no official government role at the time, while telling Russia what they needed to do in regards to the sanctions. Then he lied that the conversation ever took place. We had sanctions against Russia, and Flynn was cutting deals with an adversary that invaded Ukraine, and he did all this behind the back of a sitting president. Put him in jail for going against our country.

One of the more dishonest things Billy the Bagman said in his statement letting the confessed criminal Flynn off the hook was that Flynn's call to Kislyak was appropriate. That would be true if all Flynn did was introduce himself as the future NSA and say something innocuous like he looked forward to working with the ambassador.

But instead he advised Kislyak not to have Russia react to Obama's sanctions. Notably, before he was legally able to offer any advice that went against what was then the official policy of the US. (see the Logan Act)

Why give that advice to Russia? Because when Trump became prez he had no intention of having Russia pay a price for the election interference that helped him win.

 

[berg80]

'A Pardon by Another Name': Lawyers Decry Barr's Move to Dump Flynn Case | National Law Journal

No, I’m doing the law’s bidding, U.S. Attorney General William Barr asserted Thursday, after his move to abandon the prosecution of Trump ally Michael Flynn, a former national security adviser, was widely condemned.

www.law.com

 

[Doc7505]

Each of the points you've made have been known for sometime. The declassification of the DNI testimonies of those people in the Obama administration and the Mueller Report all confirm your post
But you've touched on a very sensitive subject.. I'm sure that on any other board they would be shutting you down.
The Progressive responders on this board will be calling you every name but Christian now....

 

[PoliticalChic]

So Obama chased out Flynn because he opposed the Iran deal. That makes Obama a criminal. Yet it was perfectly alright for Trump to fire how many people, like Sessions, Tillerson, et al. for not going along with Trump's agenda.

Maybe that is what Presidents do? Seems to be.

And as far as the Russia probe, are you seriously criticizing Obama and the Intelligence Agencies and the FBI from looking into the widespread Russian interference in the election they had uncovered? Would you have ignored it? Both the articles you supplied were from 2018 AFTER the infamous Trump Tower meeting with that Russian lawyer. Do you see no possible tie to the Trump campaign when the emails SAID the Russian government was assisting the Trump campaign?

"So Obama chased out Flynn because he opposed the Iran deal. That makes Obama a criminal. Yet it was perfectly alright for Trump to fire how many people, like Sessions, Tillerson, et al. for not going along with Trump's agenda."

You're confusing two separate issues.

But....confusion seems to be your mode and madness.

I never said Obama couldn't fire any who didn't fit in his vision, did I.



"And as far as the Russia probe, are you seriously criticizing Obama and the Intelligence Agencies and the FBI from looking into the widespread Russian interference in the election they had uncovered? "

There was no such interference, so there was nothing to uncover, you dolt.



Now....for any others who suffer from the same short-term memory loss that clearly interferes with any learning on your part:
Trump and Clinton spent $81M on US election Facebook ads, Russian agency $46K
Facebook had previously announced that $100,000 was spent on Facebook ads from June 2015 to May 2017 by Russian-linked disinformation sources, while an additional $50,000 was spent by Russians that signals indicate weren’t or were only weakly connected to an organized disinformation campaign.

Trump and Clinton spent $81M on US election Facebook ads, Russian agency $46K | TechCrunch

Russian information troll farm the Internert Research Agency spent just 0.05 percent as much on Facebook ads as Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump's campaigns combined in the run-up to the 2016 U.S. presidential election. While there might have been other Russian disinformation groups, the IRA...

techcrunch.com

There were 100 thousand Facebook adds by Russian sources……out of billions of ads….

What's the percentage?



"We know, for example, that some institution linked to the Russian government — likely the infamous Internet Research Agency — bought ads on Facebook between 2015 and 2017, with the assumed intent of stoking anger and partisanship. We know that the ads concerned wedge issues like immigration, the Second Amendment, and police brutality; we even know what some of the Russian pages and accounts were. And we know that around 3,000 ads were purchased at a cost of around $100,000.

… the $100,000 spent by the Russian government is laughably small, no matter how precisely targeted. In contrast, the official Trump campaign spent $90 million on digital ads — and, unlike the Russians, had assistance from Facebook employees to target and deploy them effectively. “There’s no way $100,000 in ad budget impacted the election. It’s ridiculous,” García Martínez said."

Did Russia’s Facebook Ads Actually Swing the Election?

If you’re most worried about ads, you’re missing the bigger picture.

nymag.com

 

[OldLady]

Yes, this is very old news we've known for years. I question why it is being raised again now.

 

[berg80]

Now that the facts about the Flynn perjury trap are no longer deniable

It's never a good sign when a fabricated lie appears so early in your thread.

Flynn Redux: What Those FBI Documents Really Show

A lot of people seem to be expecting Michael Flynn's sudden vindication. They should take a deep breath.

www.lawfareblog.com

"Why the enmity?"

What enmity? Obama's concerns were spot on. Which is why Trump ultimately fired Flynn.

"Mr. Flynn’s name came up during a broader discussion about personnel issues, the former administration officials said. Mr. Obama’s concerns about Mr. Flynn, which were first reported by NBC News, were largely about his management of the D.I.A. and predated the later concerns about his contacts with the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak.

But one of the former administration officials said that Mr. Obama was also aware of Mr. Flynn’s well-publicized trip in 2015 to Moscow and other contacts with Russia.
The revelation on Monday about Mr. Obama’s warning came hours before Sally Q. Yates, the former acting attorney general, was scheduled to testify in the afternoon in front of a Senate committee that she later raised her own concerns about Mr. Flynn’s Russia contacts with the incoming Trump administration."

Obama Warned Trump About Hiring Flynn, Officials Say (Published 2017)

Former President Barack Obama warned Donald J. Trump in their conversation in the Oval Office two days after the election.

www.nytimes.com

Anyone with more than just a brain stem, which immediately disqualifies the OP, knows the Iran agreement was the best available solution to keep Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. More importantly, it was working until Vlad's favorite candidate sabotaged it.

Iran Nuclear Deal: Debunking the Myths - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation

A factsheet to address the claims made by the opposition to the Iran deal.

armscontrolcenter.org

IAEA Says Iran Abiding by Nuclear Deal | Arms Control Association

www.armscontrol.org

If you have any other horseshit you'd like to peddle I'm always glad to rip it to shreds.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Each of the points you've made have been known for sometime. The declassification of the DNI testimonies of those people in the Obama administration and the Mueller Report all confirm your post
But you've touched on a very sensitive subject.. I'm sure that on any other board they would be shutting you down.
The Progressive responders on this board will be calling you every name but Christian now....

"Each of the points you've made have been known for sometime."

Did you see post #3?

 

[Dragonlady]

Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt.

the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !

The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.

The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.

President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.

Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now that the facts about the Flynn perjury trap are no longer deniable

It's never a good sign when a fabricated lie appears so early in your thread.

Flynn Redux: What Those FBI Documents Really Show

A lot of people seem to be expecting Michael Flynn's sudden vindication. They should take a deep breath.

www.lawfareblog.com

Why the enmity?

What enmity? Obama's concerns were spot on. Which is why Trump fired Flynn.

"Mr. Flynn’s name came up during a broader discussion about personnel issues, the former administration officials said. Mr. Obama’s concerns about Mr. Flynn, which were first reported by NBC News, were largely about his management of the D.I.A. and predated the later concerns about his contacts with the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak.

But one of the former administration officials said that Mr. Obama was also aware of Mr. Flynn’s well-publicized trip in 2015 to Moscow and other contacts with Russia.
The revelation on Monday about Mr. Obama’s warning came hours before Sally Q. Yates, the former acting attorney general, was scheduled to testify in the afternoon in front of a Senate committee that she later raised her own concerns about Mr. Flynn’s Russia contacts with the incoming Trump administration."

Obama Warned Trump About Hiring Flynn, Officials Say (Published 2017)

Former President Barack Obama warned Donald J. Trump in their conversation in the Oval Office two days after the election.

www.nytimes.com

Anyone with more than just a brain stem, which immediately disqualifies the OP, knows the Iran agreement was the best available solution to keep Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. More importantly, it was working until Vlad's favorite candidate sabotaged it.

Iran Nuclear Deal: Debunking the Myths - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation

A factsheet to address the claims made by the opposition to the Iran deal.

armscontrolcenter.org

IAEA Says Iran Abiding by Nuclear Deal | Arms Control Association

www.armscontrol.org

If you have any other horseshit you'd like to peddle I'm always glad to rip it to shreds.

Re-post sans the barnyard vulgarity and I will put you in your place.....again.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yes, this is very old news we've known for years. I question why it is being raised again now.

If old news.....why haven't you incorporated it in your views yet?

 

[OldLady]

You're confusing two separate issues.

How so?

There was no such interference, so there was nothing to uncover, you dolt.

Of course there was interference. A foreign government incognito influencing our voters on social media and hacking into the DNC and then releasing it to the world is unacceptable.

 

[Doc7505]

So Obama chased out Flynn because he opposed the Iran deal. That makes Obama a criminal. Yet it was perfectly alright for Trump to fire how many people, like Sessions, Tillerson, et al. for not going along with Trump's agenda.

Maybe that is what Presidents do? Seems to be.

And as far as the Russia probe, are you seriously criticizing Obama and the Intelligence Agencies and the FBI from looking into the widespread Russian interference in the election they had uncovered? Would you have ignored it? Both the articles you supplied were from 2018 AFTER the infamous Trump Tower meeting with that Russian lawyer. Do you see no possible tie to the Trump campaign when the emails SAID the Russian government was assisting the Trump campaign?

~~~~~~

Report: Obama Allies Torpedoed Flynn to Protect Iran Deal

Subterfuge.

townhall.com

Obama’s Treasonous Shadow Exposed | thenationalpatriot.com

www.thenationalpatriot.com

 

[berg80]

Re-post sans the barnyard vulgarity and I will put you in your place.....again.

Rather than retreating to your fantasy world why not try refuting something I wrote as I did to the horseshit you splattered on the board.

 

[berg80]

Copious amounts of horseshit from the notorious liars at Townhall.

"Extraordinary stuff from the Washington Free Beacon's Adam Kredo -- a well-sourced, solid reporter (IOW a guy who spews enough horseshit to fill a barn) who nevertheless leans very heavily on unnamed sources to piece together this scoop. What he's hearing is that a cabal of hardcore supporters of President Obama's reckless and unpopular Iranian nuclear deal set their sights on Gen. Michael Flynn months ago"

Less than one in three Americans support U.S. pullout from Iran deal

Less than one in three Americans agrees with President Donald Trump's decision to pull the United States out of an agreement to limit Iran's nuclear program, according to a Reuters/Ipsos national opinion poll released on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

 

[berg80]

Re-post sans the barnyard vulgarity and I will put you in your place.....again.

If you ask politely I might stop humiliating you.