New Orleans Mayor PURGING City’s Confederate History Because IT’S OFFENSIVE

[blackhawk]

Erasing history simply increases the odds of it being repeated.

 

[mdk]

This silly but it is their city. If the people of New Orleans find these actions objectionable than they will be voted out of office.

and the newly elected officials will have to rebuild those statues. Seems like a waste of money to me.

Thank goodness none of it is my money.

 

[dilloduck]

What ? Destroying art won't make America great again ? Damn.

 

[martybegan]

Godwin's law fail on the first page.

And to be sure there will be lawsuits. It will take decades to get those Statues down if some groups decide to play hardball.

Nah they'll come down. It's long past time we stopped celebrating those evil bastards.

Whitewashing history doesn't make it go away. and "Evil" is a bit strong, considering slavery was still acceptable in many parts of the world (but waning) at the time, including Africa.

You guys keep defining evil down, and it makes people unable to see real, true evil.

Yeah I don't think we should be celebrating the likes of Jefferson Davis with statues.

"My own convictions as to negro slavery are strong. It has its evils and abuses...We recognize the negro as God and God's Book and God's Laws, in nature, tell us to recognize him - our inferior, fitted expressly for servitude...You cannot transform the negro into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables them to be."
~ Jefferson Davis

Applying modern morals to past figures is intellectually stupid. I guess they will have to rename Jackson Square as well.

Then I guess you can stop criticizing Mohammed.

I don't criticize Mohammed, he's dead. My critique are to those who use his teachings to justify murder and mayhem.

 

[martybegan]

Nice. You don't see any Hitler statues when you're walking around in Germany do you?

Godwin's law fail on the first page.

And to be sure there will be lawsuits. It will take decades to get those Statues down if some groups decide to play hardball.

Nah they'll come down. It's long past time we stopped celebrating those evil bastards.

Whitewashing history doesn't make it go away. and "Evil" is a bit strong, considering slavery was still acceptable in many parts of the world (but waning) at the time, including Africa.

You guys keep defining evil down, and it makes people unable to see real, true evil.

The evil comes from the resolve to maintain the institution and the hatred with which it was administered during the period that it was waning here as well. They were our Nazi Reich, in fact the worst scourge the US has faced in our history.

Confederates were nowhere NEAR as bad as the Nazis. The Nazis exterminated an entire religous/ethnic group in their borders, they starved slavs for economic gain, they made people "disappear" to create fear in occupied territories (Nacht und Nebel), they had plans for a Europe ruled by Germans, with slavic serfs.

STOP IT. The Confederates were backwards by our standards, and they were fighting for a terrible cause, but they were not as bad as Nazis. Stop. It.

 

[Katzndogz]

Nice. You don't see any Hitler statues when you're walking around in Germany do you?

Godwin's law fail on the first page.

And to be sure there will be lawsuits. It will take decades to get those Statues down if some groups decide to play hardball.

Nah they'll come down. It's long past time we stopped celebrating those evil bastards.

Whitewashing history doesn't make it go away. and "Evil" is a bit strong, considering slavery was still acceptable in many parts of the world (but waning) at the time, including Africa.

You guys keep defining evil down, and it makes people unable to see real, true evil.

The evil comes from the resolve to maintain the institution and the hatred with which it was administered during the period that it was waning here as well. They were our Nazi Reich, in fact the worst scourge the US has faced in our history.

Confederates were nowhere NEAR as bad as the Nazis. The Nazis exterminated an entire religous/ethnic group in their borders, they starved slavs for economic gain, they made people "disappear" to create fear in occupied territories (Nacht und Nebel), they had plans for a Europe ruled by Germans, with slavic serfs.

STOP IT. The Confederates were backwards by our standards, and they were fighting for a terrible cause, but they were not as bad as Nazis. Stop. It.

Everyone in 1860 was backwards by our standards. Surely you don't find the northern sweatshops advanced?

 

[martybegan]

Godwin's law fail on the first page.

And to be sure there will be lawsuits. It will take decades to get those Statues down if some groups decide to play hardball.

Nah they'll come down. It's long past time we stopped celebrating those evil bastards.

Whitewashing history doesn't make it go away. and "Evil" is a bit strong, considering slavery was still acceptable in many parts of the world (but waning) at the time, including Africa.

You guys keep defining evil down, and it makes people unable to see real, true evil.

The evil comes from the resolve to maintain the institution and the hatred with which it was administered during the period that it was waning here as well. They were our Nazi Reich, in fact the worst scourge the US has faced in our history.

Confederates were nowhere NEAR as bad as the Nazis. The Nazis exterminated an entire religous/ethnic group in their borders, they starved slavs for economic gain, they made people "disappear" to create fear in occupied territories (Nacht und Nebel), they had plans for a Europe ruled by Germans, with slavic serfs.

STOP IT. The Confederates were backwards by our standards, and they were fighting for a terrible cause, but they were not as bad as Nazis. Stop. It.

Everyone in 1860 was backwards by our standards. Surely you don't find the northern sweatshops advanced?

People forget that the British Empire had banned slavery only a few decades before. Russia and several other areas of Europe still had freaking serfs at the time. Africans were enslaving other Africans.

 

[ClosedCaption]

It's all to make the snowflakes on the left feel better...that and stupid. It's part of this nation's history, you cannot simply make it go away

They arent making it go away, they are making the monuments go away

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Nice. You don't see any Hitler statues when you're walking around in Germany do you?

Godwin's law fail on the first page.

And to be sure there will be lawsuits. It will take decades to get those Statues down if some groups decide to play hardball.

. The Sons of the Confederacy should take action immediately. These people ARE acting like ISIS by erasing this country's history. Are they going to tear down the historical church in Jackson Square area next?

 

[martybegan]

Nice. You don't see any Hitler statues when you're walking around in Germany do you?

Godwin's law fail on the first page.

And to be sure there will be lawsuits. It will take decades to get those Statues down if some groups decide to play hardball.

. The Sons of the Confederacy should take action immediately. These people ARE acting like ISIS by erasing this country's history. Are they going to tear down the historical church in Jackson Square area next?

I'm sure a lawsuit is already being written up.

 

[Programmer]

Nice. You don't see any Hitler statues when you're walking around in Germany do you?

Godwin's law fail on the first page.

And to be sure there will be lawsuits. It will take decades to get those Statues down if some groups decide to play hardball.

Nah they'll come down. It's long past time we stopped celebrating those evil bastards.

Whitewashing history doesn't make it go away. and "Evil" is a bit strong, considering slavery was still acceptable in many parts of the world (but waning) at the time, including Africa.

You guys keep defining evil down, and it makes people unable to see real, true evil.

The evil comes from the resolve to maintain the institution and the hatred with which it was administered during the period that it was waning here as well. They were our Nazi Reich, in fact the worst scourge the US has faced in our history.

Confederates were nowhere NEAR as bad as the Nazis. The Nazis exterminated an entire religous/ethnic group in their borders, they starved slavs for economic gain, they made people "disappear" to create fear in occupied territories (Nacht und Nebel), they had plans for a Europe ruled by Germans, with slavic serfs.

STOP IT. The Confederates were backwards by our standards, and they were fighting for a terrible cause, but they were not as bad as Nazis. Stop. It.

Do you know how analogies are used?

Yes. Confederates had grey uniforms and nazis went with black or tan. We had a group of racist ideologues whose resolve on matters of racial subjugation was so intense that they were willing to die for it. They affected the Nazi serfdom you describe right here in the United States... as I describe.

You went as far as "as bad as". My statement is more like "our version of". A confederate US is far worse than a Nazi Europe. Maybe that's why more of our blood and treasure was poured into eradicating your southern heroes than was spent on Hitler.

 

[Programmer]

Nice. You don't see any Hitler statues when you're walking around in Germany do you?

Godwin's law fail on the first page.

And to be sure there will be lawsuits. It will take decades to get those Statues down if some groups decide to play hardball.

. The Sons of the Confederacy should take action immediately. These people ARE acting like ISIS by erasing this country's history. Are they going to tear down the historical church in Jackson Square area next?

I'm sure a lawsuit is already being written up.

 

[dilloduck]

Tear down Programmer---He remembers history and might tell someone about it. Quick-----Surrender to Mexico--No one will ever know we were here.

 

[hortysir]

Unbelievable, looks like the lib/dem/blacks are taking after ISIS in this day age. really they should tear down the whole city. and look who the mayor is. These city councils are stepping over their bounds as elected officials of a city. that should be voted on by the people living there. first Portland, now this. shameful

SNIP:
Since the AME Charleston Church shooting, liberals have been going after history that they deem ‘racist.’ The latest instance is New Orleans’ Mayor Mitch Landrieu who is officially removing historical monuments.

The Hayride reports:

The New Orleans City Council voted 6-1 today to remove four historical monuments in the city: Robert E Lee Circle, PGT Beauregard’s City Park statue, the Jefferson Davis monument and the Liberty Place monument.

Mayor Mitch Landrieu first requested the proposal back in June after the AME Charleson Church shooting. At the time, Landrieu said he wanted to hold a “60-day discussion period” so that residents could converse about the four monuments on the chopping block.

Update: Here’s a photo Mayor Mitch Landrieu tweeted out showing him signing the ordinance to officially remove four historical monuments in the city. Councilwoman Stacy Head, the lone ‘no’ vote on removal is the only New Orleans City Council member not standing beside Landrieu.



all of it here:
New Orleans Mayor PURGING City's Confederate History Because IT'S OFFENSIVE - Progressives Today

Fucking hilarious!! The highest concentration of black slave owners was in the New Orleans area

 

[NoNukes]

It's all to make the snowflakes on the left feel better...that and stupid. It's part of this nation's history, you cannot simply make it go away

You do not have to celebrate what is shameful in history, just do not repeat it.

 

[martybegan]

Godwin's law fail on the first page.

And to be sure there will be lawsuits. It will take decades to get those Statues down if some groups decide to play hardball.

Nah they'll come down. It's long past time we stopped celebrating those evil bastards.

Whitewashing history doesn't make it go away. and "Evil" is a bit strong, considering slavery was still acceptable in many parts of the world (but waning) at the time, including Africa.

You guys keep defining evil down, and it makes people unable to see real, true evil.

The evil comes from the resolve to maintain the institution and the hatred with which it was administered during the period that it was waning here as well. They were our Nazi Reich, in fact the worst scourge the US has faced in our history.

Confederates were nowhere NEAR as bad as the Nazis. The Nazis exterminated an entire religous/ethnic group in their borders, they starved slavs for economic gain, they made people "disappear" to create fear in occupied territories (Nacht und Nebel), they had plans for a Europe ruled by Germans, with slavic serfs.

STOP IT. The Confederates were backwards by our standards, and they were fighting for a terrible cause, but they were not as bad as Nazis. Stop. It.

Do you know how analogies are used?

Yes. Confederates had grey uniforms and nazis went with black or tan. We had a group of racist ideologues whose resolve on matters of racial subjugation was so intense that they were willing to die for it. They affected the Nazi serfdom you describe right here in the United States... as I describe.

You went as far as "as bad as". My statement is more like "our version of". A confederate US is far worse than a Nazi Europe. Maybe that's why more of our blood and treasure was poured into eradicating your southern heroes than was spent on Hitler.

The comparison is not valid, and only trivializes what the Nazi's actually did. We forgave the South as part of the process of getting the country back together, and you idiots want to re-open old wounds just to make your stupid political points.

And fuck you about the whole "southern heroes" thing.

 

[martybegan]

Nice. You don't see any Hitler statues when you're walking around in Germany do you?

Godwin's law fail on the first page.

And to be sure there will be lawsuits. It will take decades to get those Statues down if some groups decide to play hardball.

. The Sons of the Confederacy should take action immediately. These people ARE acting like ISIS by erasing this country's history. Are they going to tear down the historical church in Jackson Square area next?

I'm sure a lawsuit is already being written up.

Go play in traffic, oxygen thief.

 

[Katzndogz]

Nah they'll come down. It's long past time we stopped celebrating those evil bastards.

Whitewashing history doesn't make it go away. and "Evil" is a bit strong, considering slavery was still acceptable in many parts of the world (but waning) at the time, including Africa.

You guys keep defining evil down, and it makes people unable to see real, true evil.

The evil comes from the resolve to maintain the institution and the hatred with which it was administered during the period that it was waning here as well. They were our Nazi Reich, in fact the worst scourge the US has faced in our history.

Confederates were nowhere NEAR as bad as the Nazis. The Nazis exterminated an entire religous/ethnic group in their borders, they starved slavs for economic gain, they made people "disappear" to create fear in occupied territories (Nacht und Nebel), they had plans for a Europe ruled by Germans, with slavic serfs.

STOP IT. The Confederates were backwards by our standards, and they were fighting for a terrible cause, but they were not as bad as Nazis. Stop. It.

Do you know how analogies are used?

Yes. Confederates had grey uniforms and nazis went with black or tan. We had a group of racist ideologues whose resolve on matters of racial subjugation was so intense that they were willing to die for it. They affected the Nazi serfdom you describe right here in the United States... as I describe.

You went as far as "as bad as". My statement is more like "our version of". A confederate US is far worse than a Nazi Europe. Maybe that's why more of our blood and treasure was poured into eradicating your southern heroes than was spent on Hitler.

The comparison is not valid, and only trivializes what the Nazi's actually did. We forgave the South as part of the process of getting the country back together, and you idiots want to re-open old wounds just to make your stupid political points.

And fuck you about the whole "southern heroes" thing.

The country should never have come back together. The historical error was that the South lost. Had the South won, the split in the country would have happened then instead of bungling through it now. The central issue of the civil war was whether states had the right to leave the union. The issue was settled but on the wrong side.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Unbelievable, looks like the lib/dem/blacks are taking after ISIS in this day age. really they should tear down the whole city. and look who the mayor is. These city councils are stepping over their bounds as elected officials of a city. that should be voted on by the people living there. first Portland, now this. shameful

SNIP:
Since the AME Charleston Church shooting, liberals have been going after history that they deem ‘racist.’ The latest instance is New Orleans’ Mayor Mitch Landrieu who is officially removing historical monuments.

The Hayride reports:

The New Orleans City Council voted 6-1 today to remove four historical monuments in the city: Robert E Lee Circle, PGT Beauregard’s City Park statue, the Jefferson Davis monument and the Liberty Place monument.

Mayor Mitch Landrieu first requested the proposal back in June after the AME Charleson Church shooting. At the time, Landrieu said he wanted to hold a “60-day discussion period” so that residents could converse about the four monuments on the chopping block.

Update: Here’s a photo Mayor Mitch Landrieu tweeted out showing him signing the ordinance to officially remove four historical monuments in the city. Councilwoman Stacy Head, the lone ‘no’ vote on removal is the only New Orleans City Council member not standing beside Landrieu.



all of it here:
New Orleans Mayor PURGING City's Confederate History Because IT'S OFFENSIVE - Progressives Today

Why does removing various statues 'purge' history? Are these things not written down? You think statues are the only way people learn about history? That is like needing a picture book, rather than a history book, to learn and know history.

OP is a fail. Where is the Plymouth rock? Which rock is it? How are people supposed to know the history of the Pilgrims?

Laughable nonsense. Its way past time to get rid of these SYMBOLS of racism and hatred that the south has taken comfort in since they lost the Civil War. The south lost, get over it.

 

[martybegan]

Whitewashing history doesn't make it go away. and "Evil" is a bit strong, considering slavery was still acceptable in many parts of the world (but waning) at the time, including Africa.

You guys keep defining evil down, and it makes people unable to see real, true evil.

The evil comes from the resolve to maintain the institution and the hatred with which it was administered during the period that it was waning here as well. They were our Nazi Reich, in fact the worst scourge the US has faced in our history.

Confederates were nowhere NEAR as bad as the Nazis. The Nazis exterminated an entire religous/ethnic group in their borders, they starved slavs for economic gain, they made people "disappear" to create fear in occupied territories (Nacht und Nebel), they had plans for a Europe ruled by Germans, with slavic serfs.

STOP IT. The Confederates were backwards by our standards, and they were fighting for a terrible cause, but they were not as bad as Nazis. Stop. It.

Do you know how analogies are used?

Yes. Confederates had grey uniforms and nazis went with black or tan. We had a group of racist ideologues whose resolve on matters of racial subjugation was so intense that they were willing to die for it. They affected the Nazi serfdom you describe right here in the United States... as I describe.

You went as far as "as bad as". My statement is more like "our version of". A confederate US is far worse than a Nazi Europe. Maybe that's why more of our blood and treasure was poured into eradicating your southern heroes than was spent on Hitler.

The comparison is not valid, and only trivializes what the Nazi's actually did. We forgave the South as part of the process of getting the country back together, and you idiots want to re-open old wounds just to make your stupid political points.

And fuck you about the whole "southern heroes" thing.

The country should never have come back together. The historical error was that the South lost. Had the South won, the split in the country would have happened then instead of bungling through it now. The central issue of the civil war was whether states had the right to leave the union. The issue was settled but on the wrong side.

I disagree. When you enter into a contract, it can only be negated if both sides agree to it. The South threw a temper tantrum over the imaginary threat of Republicans banning slavery (they didn't have the votes in the legislature to pull that off) and they paid for it. Ironically their failure after seceding is what made the federal government of today possible, if they had not resorted to it, I think you would have a much different balance between federal and state power than today.