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[Lesh]

You love to blame Republicans. I know very well you love it. I am blaming Republicans for starting the invasion that was the start of war. A fucking fort is not a nation. It is a structure. And in the structure were men. None harmed by the South.

Hey jackass… you attack a federal fort and you have attacked that nation.

Not to mention the fact that the Confederacy was in open military rebellion.

Fuck them and anyone who defends them

 

[Lesh]

Why start at Sumter then? The North had a good many forts that the South took over. And you ignored all of those.

Occupied forts? That we’re attacked?

Name em

 

[Lesh]

Why start at Sumter then? The North had a good many forts that the South took over. And you ignored all of those.

Acts of war: the Southern seizure of Federal property, 1860-1861

The Civil War began before shots were fired on Fort Sumter. During the four months between Lincoln’s election on November 7, 1860, and his inauguration on March 4, 1861, the Deep South seceded from the Union, seized all the federal forts, arsenals, navy yards, custom houses, revenue cutters...

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Each and every one of those were an act of war

 

[Robert W]

Acts of war: the Southern seizure of Federal property, 1860-1861

The Civil War began before shots were fired on Fort Sumter. During the four months between Lincoln’s election on November 7, 1860, and his inauguration on March 4, 1861, the Deep South seceded from the Union, seized all the federal forts, arsenals, navy yards, custom houses, revenue cutters...

ir.ua.edu

Each and every one of those were an act of war

So you debunked the claim as I also did that Sumter was the start of war.

Actually check the other forts prior to shooting off your face.

 

[Lesh]

So you debunked the claim as I also did that Sumter was the start of war.

Actually check the other forts prior to shooting off your face.

I posted the link jackass.

As noted… each and every one of those was an act of war against the United States

 

[Robert W]

I posted the link jackass.

As noted… each and every one of those was an act of war against the United States

You amaze me. You pretend you are not stupid; But then you prove you are.

 

[Robert W]

Acts of war: the Southern seizure of Federal property, 1860-1861

The Civil War began before shots were fired on Fort Sumter. During the four months between Lincoln’s election on November 7, 1860, and his inauguration on March 4, 1861, the Deep South seceded from the Union, seized all the federal forts, arsenals, navy yards, custom houses, revenue cutters...

ir.ua.edu

Each and every one of those were an act of war

Look, I believe all know by now your dumb opinion. All you have is an opinion.

 

[Robert W]

I posted the link jackass.

As noted… each and every one of those was an act of war against the United States

The forts were all forfeited by the then United States. The South accepted their surrender as they did at Ft. Sumter.

 

[Lesh]

The forts were all forfeited by the then United States. The South accepted their surrender as they did at Ft. Sumter.

“Surrender”

That makes their takeover and ACT OF WAR YA FUCKING MORON

 

[Robert W]

“Surrender”

That makes their takeover and ACT OF WAR YA FUCKING MORON

They did not fight. So there was no war ya fucking moron.

 

[protectionist]

Hey moron what peril was the economy in right before Trump took over?

Hey mega moron - 2 consecutive recessions, and then 2 more declines in GDP after that. Got it now ?

 

[Faun]

Fine except that was the start of the invasion.
Sumter was not a war at all.

Nope. History recorded 4.12.1861 as the start of the war. Need I remind you, you have no proof of your delusion?

 

[Faun]

They did not fight. So there was no war ya fucking moron.

Of course they fought. Just how crazy are you??

 

[Robert W]

Of course they fought. Just how crazy are you??

Where was this? I am not nearly as crazy as you are.

 

[Robert W]

Nope. History recorded 4.12.1861 as the start of the war. Need I remind you, you have no proof of your delusion?

OK, then when John Brown captured a building at Harpers Ferry, did he start a war?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Carter was a brain trust.

Bill Clinton was very intelligent also

"We're not dead yet!"

 

[Robert W]

Carter was a brain trust. Shitty president, but a very smart man.

That might be true. I voted for him. But his shitty job turned me so off I leaped to republicans and stayed there.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Where was this? I am not nearly as crazy as you are.

Academic.

To Stand by the Side of Freedom: Abraham Lincoln and 19th Century America -- Selections from the David M. Rubenstein Americana Collection

Selections from David M. Rubenstein's private collection will explore the founding, growth, and problems of American history through the life and presidency of Abraham Lincoln. On exhibit October 7, 2021 – February 23, 2022 at Duke University Libraries

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The Battle of Fort Sumter and First Victory of the Southern Troops, April 13th, 1861.​

 

[tshrimp]

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Men are better at being women than women are…at least according to leftists.

 

[Faun]

Why start at Sumter then? The North had a good many forts that the South took over. And you ignored all of those.

Nope, I didn't ignore those. They were not attacked. Unlike Sumter, there was no fighting in those. The Union gave them up without a fight and moved their men from those forts to Sumter to reinforce it in order to hold onto it. Fort Sumter was the first Fort the Union and the Confederacy fought over. That started the war .