New Proposed Laws Threaten Obama's 2012 Re-Election Prospects

[Toro]

This coming from a guy who posts youtube videos of Michelle Obama saying Barack was Kenyan as proof positive that Obama really was born in Kenya.

 

[GStarz]

Hey Skippy,

Here is a letter from Obama's lawyers to one of the plaintiffs in one of the suits which is requesting Obama's long form birth certificate. given the manifest amount of time, trouble and public expense in which Obama has engaged to not make a simple two-minute phone call and release his records, don't you think it is proof positive at least of Obama's incompetent decision-making processes to fight disclosure to this extent rather than simply release the records requested?

By the way, how is that Riverboat Gambler image working for you?

 

[Toro]

And, Skippy?

 

[GStarz]

For those keeping score, Iowa state Sen. Kent Sorenson has brought the number of states having presidential-ballot eligibility requirements introduced in the current state legislative sessions to an even dozen, or for people like Skippy, nearly half the states of this country.

Read more: And then there were 12 And then there were 12

 

[gekaap]

No he wasn't eligible. His father was not a US citizen when he was born. He was subject to the British Crown. Please read:

HISTORICAL BREAKTHROUGH – PROOF: CHESTER ARTHUR CONCEALED HE WAS A BRITISH SUBJECT AT BIRTH « Natural Born Citizen

Completely unauthoritative source. Arthur's father's citizenship is irrelevant to Arthur's qualification for the Presidency.

 

[DiveCon]

For those keeping score, Iowa state Sen. Kent Sorenson has brought the number of states having presidential-ballot eligibility requirements introduced in the current state legislative sessions to an even dozen, or for people like Skippy, nearly half the states of this country.

Read more: And then there were 12 And then there were 12

12 is half of 50?



wow, it wasnt when i was in school, when did this change?

 

[gekaap]

Some more on citizenship under the constitution....

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

The constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words [citizen and natural born citizen], either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except in so far as this is done by the affirmative declaration that 'all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.'

[...]

It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born. III. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.

 

[GStarz]

Some more on citizenship under the constitution....

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

The constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words [citizen and natural born citizen], either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except in so far as this is done by the affirmative declaration that 'all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.'

[...]

It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born. III. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.

Keep dreaming and hoping. the fact remains that you aren't as clever as you think you are, and these people, collectively, leave you in the dirt on the legal facts. Pathetic. But dream on, by all means. What you say here won;t matter one iota in the real world. This is happening, and it's very obviously over your head.

 

[GStarz]

For those keeping score, Iowa state Sen. Kent Sorenson has brought the number of states having presidential-ballot eligibility requirements introduced in the current state legislative sessions to an even dozen, or for people like Skippy, nearly half the states of this country.

Read more: And then there were 12 And then there were 12

12 is half of 50?



wow, it wasnt when i was in school, when did this change?

read again. I said NEARLY half, asshole. Did they also not teach you to read in school, too? But boy, you sure are CLEVER aren't you?

 

[DiveCon]

For those keeping score, Iowa state Sen. Kent Sorenson has brought the number of states having presidential-ballot eligibility requirements introduced in the current state legislative sessions to an even dozen, or for people like Skippy, nearly half the states of this country.

Read more: And then there were 12 And then there were 12

12 is half of 50?



wow, it wasnt when i was in school, when did this change?

read again. I said NEARLY half, asshole. Did they also not teach you to read in school, too? But boy, you sure are CLEVER aren't you?

wait, 12 is NEARLY half?
are you SURE of that, ya fucking moron


you must like to round up by a magnitude of 100%

 

[gekaap]

Lynch v. Clarke, 3 N.Y. Leg. Obs. 236, 1 Sand. Ch. 583 (1844)
(cited by the SCOTUS in Wong)

Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not. The position would be decisive in his favor that by the rule of the common law, in force when the constitution was adopted, he is a citizen.

Or perhaps you'd like something more recent.

STEVE ANKENY AND BILL KRUSE v. GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF INDIANA

Second, the Plaintiffs argue that both President Barack Obama and Senator John McCain are not “natural born Citizens” as required for qualification to be President under Article II, Section 1, Clause 49 of the U.S. Constitution, and that therefore because neither person was constitutionally eligible to become President, “[t]he Governor . . . should [have been] prohibited by order of [the trial court] . . . from issuing any certificate of ascertainment, or any other certified statement, under the State Seal of the State of Indiana . . . .”

[...]

Specifically, the crux of the Plaintiffs‟ argument is that “[c]ontrary to the thinking of most People on the subject, there‟s a very clear distinction between a „citizen of the United States‟ and a „natural born Citizen,‟ and the difference involves having [two] parents of U.S. citizenship, owing no foreign allegiance.”

[...]

For the reasons stated below, we hold that the Plaintiffs‟ arguments fail to state a claim upon which relief can be granted, and that therefore the trial court did not err in dismissing the Plaintiffs‟ complaint.

Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.

 

[Toro]

12 is half of 50?



wow, it wasnt when i was in school, when did this change?

read again. I said NEARLY half, asshole. Did they also not teach you to read in school, too? But boy, you sure are CLEVER aren't you?

wait, 12 is NEARLY half?
are you SURE of that, ya fucking moron


you must like to round up by a magnitude of 100%

rofl

GTardz meant to say "Nearly half of half the states in the country."

 

[Montrovant]

read again. I said NEARLY half, asshole. Did they also not teach you to read in school, too? But boy, you sure are CLEVER aren't you?

wait, 12 is NEARLY half?
are you SURE of that, ya fucking moron


you must like to round up by a magnitude of 100%

rofl

GTardz meant to say "Nearly half of half the states in the country."

Really, that was one of the worst attempts at justifying a foolish post I've ever seen.

 

[DiveCon]

wait, 12 is NEARLY half?
are you SURE of that, ya fucking moron


you must like to round up by a magnitude of 100%

rofl

GTardz meant to say "Nearly half of half the states in the country."

Really, that was one of the worst attempts at justifying a foolish post I've ever seen.

hey, 12 is NEARLY half of 50
LOL

 

[gekaap]

Funny how the birthers are suddenly so quiet. Guess they didn't like getting smacked in the face with facts.

 

[DiveCon]

Funny how the birthers are suddenly so quiet. Guess they didn't like getting smacked in the face with facts.

birfers, like troofers, dont really care about the facts

 

[Sallow]

Funny how the birthers are suddenly so quiet. Guess they didn't like getting smacked in the face with facts.

Funny the "Birthers" didn't make this big a stink over McCain..who really wasn't born in this country.

 

[DiveCon]

Funny how the birthers are suddenly so quiet. Guess they didn't like getting smacked in the face with facts.

Funny the "Birthers" didn't make this big a stink over McCain..who really wasn't born in this country.

well, the response to that would be

"he showed his full BC"


but that doesnt matter anyway
they dont really care about where he was born

 

[The T]

Funny how the birthers are suddenly so quiet. Guess they didn't like getting smacked in the face with facts.

Funny the "Birthers" didn't make this big a stink over McCain..who really wasn't born in this country.

well, the response to that would be

"he showed his full BC"


but that doesnt matter anyway
they dont really care about where he was born

And McCain was born in an American ZONE of influence, and verifiable.

 

[DiveCon]

Funny the "Birthers" didn't make this big a stink over McCain..who really wasn't born in this country.

well, the response to that would be

"he showed his full BC"


but that doesnt matter anyway
they dont really care about where he was born

And McCain was born in an American ZONE of influence, and verifiable.

that actually doesnt matter
he has parents that are citizens
he would have been one even if he had been born in Nairobi
or Bejing
the location matters not