gekaap
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Obama posted on the internet a copy of what his supporters call his birth certificate(although the image is only of a 2007 Certification of Live Birth [COLB] computer form,which is computer generated and easily forged form that was posted online in 2008 which is not a true Birth Certificate and is not a typed contemporaneous birth certificate from 1961 which would have the name and signature of the delivering doctor or witnesses to the birth.
Oh, this old argument. Obama obtained a fresh copy of his birth certificate in 2007. Birthers complain that it's not the original birth certificate. Of course, what Obama has was issued by the state of Hawaii, is notarized by a Hawaii notary public, but there's still this issue for some reason.
The problem here is that you demands are not reasonable. I, for one, do not possess my original birth certificate. It's gone. I believe it was probably confiscated when my name was legally changed when I was a baby to give me my father's last name. In any event, a new birth certificate was issued, and that subsequently was destroyed in a fire when I was still a young child. Since then I've had to replace my birth certificate a couple times for various reasons. The one I have now is similar to the one Obama has, but mine actually has less information than his. There's no information about my parents at all. Only my name, and my birth date. Does this make me somehow no longer a natural born citizen? Is my birth certificate, issued by the state in which I was born, somehow not valid because it's not the original, or because it doesn't have any information on who was the delivering doctor?
The problem is that you're demanding things that there is no place to demand. What Obama has would be readily accepted for any other person in this country. But Obama is a special exception, and the truth is that you simply don't want to have any burden of proof satisfied. Like I said, you're moving the goal post. First it was that he didn't show a birth certificate. Then, it was that it wasn't the right birth certificate. YES IT IS! It's his birth certificate, it was issued by the state of Hawaii, it's authentic!
No witnesses or hospitals have ever attested to Obama being born in Hawaii.
The state of Hawaii has attested to the fact.
Birth registration fraud and fake computer birth certificates is a massive problem in the U.S.
And what evidence do you have that there is any such fraud here? Identity theft is a massive problem in the US. I could claim that John McCain is not who he is because the country has a problem with identity theft. But my claim without any evidence is meaningless. Taking such a position without any evidence would be illogical. Dismissing evidence to the contrary on the dogma that "it's fake" even though there's no evidence of such forgery is tantamount to hearing voices that aren't there.