New Witness...TRAYVON was beating Zimmerman up!

[Inthemiddle]

No doubt the fight supports Zimmerman's account and I bet the fact Zimmerman made dozens of nuisance 911 calls, was carrying a gun and Martin was not doing anything illegal there is why this charge.
Watch a plea to voluntary manslaughter, 10 year sentence, 1-3 to do with very strict probation.
Like NO GUNS for the ten years and maybe for life.

HOLY SHIT, BATMAN!!!

You couldn't find a bigger flip-flop on something if John Kerry and Mitt Romney had a love child together.

 

[theliq]

AS I SAID ........ GUILTY....... his story was implausable tl

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Weren't you the guy who insisted up and down there was no case and they weren't going to charge him?

I think this is going to trial, and your boy is going down.

The bitch gave into the lynch mob.

Now you're over here trying to stir up racist tensions.

Racial tension? Fuck the lynch mob is nothing but a bunch of god damn racist. including you.

 

[Gadawg73]

No doubt the fight supports Zimmerman's account and I bet the fact Zimmerman made dozens of nuisance 911 calls, was carrying a gun and Martin was not doing anything illegal there is why this charge.
Watch a plea to voluntary manslaughter, 10 year sentence, 1-3 to do with very strict probation.
Like NO GUNS for the ten years and maybe for life.

HOLY SHIT, BATMAN!!!

You couldn't find a bigger flip-flop on something if John Kerry and Mitt Romney had a love child together.

Watch a plea to manslaughter. I bet you that it will never go to trial and there will be a plea.
How much?
How is that a flip flop? I AM STATING THE SAME THING.
You have NO clue how this works. In my line of work we jokingly call the first charge by the prosecution "the opening bid"
Guess what the next stage is in all of this middle? What happens next?
And then what happens after that. If you are so smart tell us what are the next 5 stages in all of this.
You do not have a clue so just admit it.
So tell us, what are the next 5 stages in this?
Thought so.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The bitch gave into the lynch mob.

Now you're over here trying to stir up racist tensions.

Imagine that.
Honey, racial tensions were stirred up when a 6th grade photo of Martin was splattered all over by the media, Al Sharpton came down there, Spike Lee posted the wrong address for an innocent white couple down there and the New Black Panther Party threatened to kill innocent people and put a bounty on Zimmerman for 10K.

Where WERE YOU when they started THOSE racist tensions?
Smashing beer cans on your forehead?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No doubt the fight supports Zimmerman's account and I bet the fact Zimmerman made dozens of nuisance 911 calls, was carrying a gun and Martin was not doing anything illegal there is why this charge.
Watch a plea to voluntary manslaughter, 10 year sentence, 1-3 to do with very strict probation.
Like NO GUNS for the ten years and maybe for life.

HOLY SHIT, BATMAN!!!

You couldn't find a bigger flip-flop on something if John Kerry and Mitt Romney had a love child together.

Watch a plea to manslaughter. I bet you that it will never go to trial and there will be a plea.
How much?
How is that a flip flop? I AM STATING THE SAME THING.
You have NO clue how this works. In my line of work we jokingly call the first charge by the prosecution "the opening bid"
Guess what the next stage is in all of this middle? What happens next?
And then what happens after that. If you are so smart tell us what are the next 5 stages in all of this.
You do not have a clue so just admit it.
So tell us, what are the next 5 stages in this?
Thought so.

I would disagree because if he was innocent why plea, but since justice gave into the lynch mob he will never get a fair trial. So a plea would be the best thing for him to do right now.

 

[Gadawg73]

No doubt the fight supports Zimmerman's account and I bet the fact Zimmerman made dozens of nuisance 911 calls, was carrying a gun and Martin was not doing anything illegal there is why this charge.
Watch a plea to voluntary manslaughter, 10 year sentence, 1-3 to do with very strict probation.
Like NO GUNS for the ten years and maybe for life.

HOLY SHIT, BATMAN!!!

You couldn't find a bigger flip-flop on something if John Kerry and Mitt Romney had a love child together.

Refer to my post of 3-29-12 on Marc's thread "I don't think many of you know what confronted means"

I clearly stated "I see this as a manslaughter case 100%."
Next pose that day "Not murder but manslaughter."
So how is that a "flip flop" when I stated it TWO WEEKS AGO??
And numerous other times in that thread I stated this "WAS MANSLAUGHTER".

As hard as you try you can never gain. Go look it up.

I should have waited for you to accept my bet and then taken your $$ but I figured you knew already I was right.

 

[Gadawg73]

HOLY SHIT, BATMAN!!!

You couldn't find a bigger flip-flop on something if John Kerry and Mitt Romney had a love child together.

Watch a plea to manslaughter. I bet you that it will never go to trial and there will be a plea.
How much?
How is that a flip flop? I AM STATING THE SAME THING.
You have NO clue how this works. In my line of work we jokingly call the first charge by the prosecution "the opening bid"
Guess what the next stage is in all of this middle? What happens next?
And then what happens after that. If you are so smart tell us what are the next 5 stages in all of this.
You do not have a clue so just admit it.
So tell us, what are the next 5 stages in this?
Thought so.

I would disagree because if he was innocent why plea, but since justice gave into the lynch mob he will never get a fair trial. So a plea would be the best thing for him to do right now.

You risk the max. Can not tell you how many times I have worked criminal defense cases and seen guys take a plea when they felt they were totally innocent.
And seen guys go to trial on cases where they believed they were not guilty of ALL of the counts in the indictment as multi count indictments are common as each act can be a seperate count of the indictment. Seen guys get mandatory 25 years throwing the dice on many cases where the offer was 10 to do 5.
The long time cons can "do the paper" which means they can do the probation after their time as most of the sentences run concurrent and few are probated.
The young punks have a hard time "doing the paper" as they know that they probably will end up with the same crew as before they went in.

 

[Peach]

HOLY SHIT, BATMAN!!!

You couldn't find a bigger flip-flop on something if John Kerry and Mitt Romney had a love child together.

Watch a plea to manslaughter. I bet you that it will never go to trial and there will be a plea.
How much?
How is that a flip flop? I AM STATING THE SAME THING.
You have NO clue how this works. In my line of work we jokingly call the first charge by the prosecution "the opening bid"
Guess what the next stage is in all of this middle? What happens next?
And then what happens after that. If you are so smart tell us what are the next 5 stages in all of this.
You do not have a clue so just admit it.
So tell us, what are the next 5 stages in this?
Thought so.

I would disagree because if he was innocent why plea, but since justice gave into the lynch mob he will never get a fair trial. So a plea would be the best thing for him to do right now.

Bundy, Rolling, and Wuornos were as well publicized in Florida; Rolling pled, but sentencing took a couple months. The other two also got fair hearings. IN FLORIDA.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Watch a plea to manslaughter. I bet you that it will never go to trial and there will be a plea.
How much?
How is that a flip flop? I AM STATING THE SAME THING.
You have NO clue how this works. In my line of work we jokingly call the first charge by the prosecution "the opening bid"
Guess what the next stage is in all of this middle? What happens next?
And then what happens after that. If you are so smart tell us what are the next 5 stages in all of this.
You do not have a clue so just admit it.
So tell us, what are the next 5 stages in this?
Thought so.

I would disagree because if he was innocent why plea, but since justice gave into the lynch mob he will never get a fair trial. So a plea would be the best thing for him to do right now.

Bundy, Rolling, and Wuornos were as well publicized in Florida; Rolling pled, but sentencing took a couple months. The other two also got fair hearings. IN FLORIDA.

Only because of the racist lynch mob.

 

[theliq]

The bitch gave into the lynch mob.

Now you're over here trying to stir up racist tensions.

Racial tension? Fuck the lynch mob is nothing but a bunch of god damn racist. including you.

Come on Big,Zimmerman intended to kill and MURDER.......and will be found GUILTY

Australia says NO TO GUNS for reasons like these........In the STATES YOU SAY WE NEED GUNS FOR PROTECTION.!!!!!!!!
In AUSTRALIA WE SAY NO GUNS FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.......we are right and you are wrong.

Australia GREAT ONE DAY,BRILLIANT THE NEXT..........and NO GUNS.

Big you are out of order on this one...steve ps I find it strange you use the expression LYNCH MOB,when referring to folk wanting at least some Justice for this WHITE BOYS CRIME,when the word came into being when WHITE FOLK made LYNCHING AN ART FORM AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE IN THE PAST.!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gadawg73]

The Prosecutor Corey called the Stand Your Ground defense "a tough affirmative defense to overcome".

Why does she say that and this is most important, why would she say that to the media?

 

[Gadawg73]

Now you're over here trying to stir up racist tensions.

Racial tension? Fuck the lynch mob is nothing but a bunch of god damn racist. including you.

Come on Big,Zimmerman intended to kill and MURDER.......and will be found GUILTY

Australia says NO TO GUNS for reasons like these........In the STATES YOU SAY WE NEED GUNS FOR PROTECTION.!!!!!!!!
In AUSTRALIA WE SAY NO GUNS FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.......we are right and you are wrong.

Australia GREAT ONE DAY,BRILLIANT THE NEXT..........and NO GUNS.

Big you are out of order on this one...steve ps I find it strange you use the expression LYNCH MOB,when referring to folk wanting at least some Justice for this WHITE BOYS CRIME,when the word came into being when WHITE FOLK made LYNCHING AN ART FORM AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE IN THE PAST.!!!!!!!!!!

Your gun laws have done NOTHING to reduce gun related deaths there.

NEWS FLASH MOE: ONLY THE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS GIVE UP THEIR GUNS.

If you do not know criminals do not then I pity you sir.

 

[Ariux]

Australia says NO TO GUNS for reasons like these........In the STATES YOU SAY WE NEED GUNS FOR PROTECTION.!!!!!!!!
In AUSTRALIA WE SAY NO GUNS FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.......we are right and you are wrong.

Australia doesn't have blacks, so you don't need guns.

I think a brainwashed fool like yourself might learn something from this:

Back in the late 90s, Australia got busy passing some of the tightest gun laws in the world. But, you see, it has had practically zero effect. Granted, there has been a slight decline, but murders have declined all over the first world, without regard to gun laws. Factors unrelated to gun laws, such as vast improvements in technology, have reduced crime.

 

[theliq]

Australia says NO TO GUNS for reasons like these........In the STATES YOU SAY WE NEED GUNS FOR PROTECTION.!!!!!!!!
In AUSTRALIA WE SAY NO GUNS FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.......we are right and you are wrong.

Australia doesn't have blacks, so you don't need guns.

I think a brainwashed fool like yourself might learn something from this:

Back in the late 90s, Australia got busy passing some of the tightest gun laws in the world. But, you see, it has had practically zero effect. Granted, there has been a slight decline, but murders have declined all over the first world, without regard to gun laws. Factors unrelated to gun laws, such as vast improvements in technology, have reduced crime.

HoHoHo another REDNECK attempt to push the discredited Riflemen Association Mantra on the unknowing....we threw them out of Australia like we would the TERRORIST BULLSHIT ARTISTS THEY ARE............Your graph is complete rubbish and you have not separated GUN KILLINGS to MURDERS IN GENERAL.as for not having "BLACKS"as you put it.......we now know you are talking complete SHIT,SHITHEAD theliq by the way 2009 US Homicides by GUN.......10,247 ....... Australia 2009....GUN Homicides 24 now the US has appox 270 million population and Australia 22.5 million...work out the figures if you can(which I doubt).......that YOU WANKER ARE THE FACTS.....see when you deal with theliq,you are dealing with thepredominant without a GUN.........youboyare an idiot.but you are hungry so I'll throw you a FEW BANANAS

 

[koshergrl]

No doubt the fight supports Zimmerman's account and I bet the fact Zimmerman made dozens of nuisance 911 calls, was carrying a gun and Martin was not doing anything illegal there is why this charge.
Watch a plea to voluntary manslaughter, 10 year sentence, 1-3 to do with very strict probation.
Like NO GUNS for the ten years and maybe for life.

HOLY SHIT, BATMAN!!!

You couldn't find a bigger flip-flop on something if John Kerry and Mitt Romney had a love child together.

That's not a flip flop at all.

You people have something wrong with you.

 

[koshergrl]

Racial tension? Fuck the lynch mob is nothing but a bunch of god damn racist. including you.

Come on Big,Zimmerman intended to kill and MURDER.......and will be found GUILTY

Australia says NO TO GUNS for reasons like these........In the STATES YOU SAY WE NEED GUNS FOR PROTECTION.!!!!!!!!
In AUSTRALIA WE SAY NO GUNS FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.......we are right and you are wrong.

Australia GREAT ONE DAY,BRILLIANT THE NEXT..........and NO GUNS.

Big you are out of order on this one...steve ps I find it strange you use the expression LYNCH MOB,when referring to folk wanting at least some Justice for this WHITE BOYS CRIME,when the word came into being when WHITE FOLK made LYNCHING AN ART FORM AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE IN THE PAST.!!!!!!!!!!

Your gun laws have done NOTHING to reduce gun related deaths there.

NEWS FLASH MOE: ONLY THE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS GIVE UP THEIR GUNS.

If you do not know criminals do not then I pity you sir.

In DC gun related deaths quadrupled when strict gun laws went into effect.

 

[The Gadfly]

Australia says NO TO GUNS for reasons like these........In the STATES YOU SAY WE NEED GUNS FOR PROTECTION.!!!!!!!!
In AUSTRALIA WE SAY NO GUNS FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.......we are right and you are wrong.

Australia doesn't have blacks, so you don't need guns.

I think a brainwashed fool like yourself might learn something from this:

Back in the late 90s, Australia got busy passing some of the tightest gun laws in the world. But, you see, it has had practically zero effect. Granted, there has been a slight decline, but murders have declined all over the first world, without regard to gun laws. Factors unrelated to gun laws, such as vast improvements in technology, have reduced crime.

HoHoHo another REDNECK attempt to push the discredited Riflemen Association Mantra on the unknowing....we threw them out of Australia like we would the TERRORIST BULLSHIT ARTISTS THEY ARE............Your graph is complete rubbish and you have not separated GUN KILLINGS to MURDERS IN GENERAL.as for not having "BLACKS"as you put it.......we now know you are talking complete SHIT,SHITHEAD theliq

If you don't like the way we do things in America, then stay in your own damn country, and don't tell us how to run ours-that's none of your goddamn business. I don't give a rat's ass WHAT you socialist idiots do to your own nation; it's yours, and you can screw it up to hell and gone, if it suits you; but I'll thank you to keep your arse, and your nose, and most of all your yap, out of mine. That is all. Go kiss a damn crocodile!

 

[Vidi]

Come on Big,Zimmerman intended to kill and MURDER.......and will be found GUILTY

Australia says NO TO GUNS for reasons like these........In the STATES YOU SAY WE NEED GUNS FOR PROTECTION.!!!!!!!!
In AUSTRALIA WE SAY NO GUNS FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.......we are right and you are wrong.

Australia GREAT ONE DAY,BRILLIANT THE NEXT..........and NO GUNS.

Big you are out of order on this one...steve ps I find it strange you use the expression LYNCH MOB,when referring to folk wanting at least some Justice for this WHITE BOYS CRIME,when the word came into being when WHITE FOLK made LYNCHING AN ART FORM AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE IN THE PAST.!!!!!!!!!!

Your gun laws have done NOTHING to reduce gun related deaths there.

NEWS FLASH MOE: ONLY THE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS GIVE UP THEIR GUNS.

If you do not know criminals do not then I pity you sir.

In DC gun related deaths quadrupled when strict gun laws went into effect.

And in Florida, "justifiable homicides" have nearly tripled since the Stand Your Ground law was passed.

Smith said that since “stand your ground” passed in 2005, deaths due to self-defense have jumped over 250 percent. When we calculated the average for five years before the law passed and five years after it passed, we found an increase of 200 percent. That’s short of Smith’s claim, though the numbers largely support the idea that self-defense deaths have increased since 2005. As for whether “stand your ground” is the reason self-defense deaths are up, experts either disagree or say it’s difficult to determine without closer examination.

We rate this statement Half True.


Read more here: Myth and reality of ‘stand your ground’ - Opinion - MiamiHerald.com

We can find data showing almost anything nowadays.

 

[koshergrl]

Well one could read that thus: The number of people who were able to successfully defend themselves (and not get sent to prison for it) has tripled.