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New York hospital shooter used New York legal, AR-15, 10 round magazines..

Excuse the hell out of me. I voted for the republican party, sorry kids. I have seen the flip side of this, and gun people scare the holy hell out of me. And thugs with guns scare me even more, and this pro gun stuff just feeds into those bad actors in the shadows, the people you fear the most. If we just got rid off the damned things, most of you wouldn't be so damned paranoid about protecting yourselves, either.

He really wasnt an asshole about it,just direct.

The only people gunning down poor saps in the street are ghetto gang members.
If we stopped all the inner city gang killings we'd have a murder count that was the envy of the world.
 
Excuse the hell out of me. I voted for the republican party, sorry kids. I have seen the flip side of this, and gun people scare the holy hell out of me. And thugs with guns scare me even more, and this pro gun stuff just feeds into those bad actors in the shadows, the people you fear the most. If we just got rid of the damned things, most of you wouldn't be so damned paranoid about protecting yourselves, either.


That is the problem...you are "feeling" not thinking......nothing you feel about guns is true or accurate......people who carry guns as law abiding citizens break the law less than other citizens and less than police officers do....and....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
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Yeah. The pro gun people remind me of the people that defend illegal aliens. That's right, this weird logic of theirs. We need them, why? It's what America is about? There is a parallel here. We don't NEED either and both are harmful, and yet certain groups put on the blinkers and use patriotism and use money and political maneuvering to further their cause despite the harm they do, PACs are powerful things.
Which amendment is the "illegal alien" one?
Common here, people fineness laws to support illegal or guns, illegal alien is pejorative, we aren't supposed to say that because of liberal group think. And Conservative group think would excuse mas shootings, illegal possession of firearms, Sandy Hook and live in a deluded group think world like liberals.
I readily agree there are lying pieces of shit partisan fuckwards on both sides of the political divide. Still, self-defense is a fundamental right and enumerated in our Constitution. While I fully support immigration reform, I do not condone encouraging criminals to break the law.
If this society didn't have guns, if they were banned, would we NEED them so much? We needed guns back in 1776 for sustenance, or to fight British overlords and their minions. We have supermarkets and F 22 raptors now, why do we need guns? It's a silly self sustaining argument. We NEED guns to protect us from people with guns?

:clap2: Beautifully said.

You gotta wonder if these deep intellects that conclude the answer to violence is more violence must have been dropped on their heads at some point. SMH


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Yeah...asswipe....you don't know what you are talking about....how about some truth, facts and the reality of guns in America...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
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Yeah. The pro gun people remind me of the people that defend illegal aliens. That's right, this weird logic of theirs. We need them, why? It's what America is about? There is a parallel here. We don't NEED either and both are harmful, and yet certain groups put on the blinkers and use patriotism and use money and political maneuvering to further their cause despite the harm they do, PACs are powerful things.
Which amendment is the "illegal alien" one?
Common here, people fineness laws to support illegal or guns, illegal alien is pejorative, we aren't supposed to say that because of liberal group think. And Conservative group think would excuse mas shootings, illegal possession of firearms, Sandy Hook and live in a deluded group think world like liberals.
I readily agree there are lying pieces of shit partisan fuckwards on both sides of the political divide. Still, self-defense is a fundamental right and enumerated in our Constitution. While I fully support immigration reform, I do not condone encouraging criminals to break the law.
If this society didn't have guns, if they were banned, would we NEED them so much? We needed guns back in 1776 for sustenance, or to fight British overlords and their minions. We have supermarkets and F 22 raptors now, why do we need guns? It's a silly self sustaining argument. We NEED guns to protect us from people with guns?

:clap2: Beautifully said.

You gotta wonder if these deep intellects that conclude the answer to violence is more violence must have been dropped on their heads at some point. SMH


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And you are wrong...again........

Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston church shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 9 dead)

vs.

Deputies Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense ( 0 dead)

6 Shot At New Life Church Gunman 2 Churchgoers Dead - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

Remember This SC Concealed Carrier Stops Mass Shooting During Church Service. No Casualties. ( 0 dead)

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No guns: 15 dead

Sikh temple ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston ( 9 dead)


Parishioners with guns: 2 dead

Osceola ( 0 dead )

New life ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

South Carolina shotgun guy ( 0 dead)


Temple massacre has some Sikhs mulling gun ownership

The president of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin had only a butter knife on hand, which he used to fight the gunman. He was killed, but his heroic actions were credited for slowing the shooter. Guns were not allowed in the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin.

“No guns [were] allowed in the temple,” Kulbir Singh, an attendee of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin, told FoxNews.com. “Everyone knows that it’s not allowed, anywhere in the temple.”
 
Yeah. The pro gun people remind me of the people that defend illegal aliens. That's right, this weird logic of theirs. We need them, why? It's what America is about? There is a parallel here. We don't NEED either and both are harmful, and yet certain groups put on the blinkers and use patriotism and use money and political maneuvering to further their cause despite the harm they do, PACs are powerful things.
Which amendment is the "illegal alien" one?
Common here, people fineness laws to support illegal or guns, illegal alien is pejorative, we aren't supposed to say that because of liberal group think. And Conservative group think would excuse mas shootings, illegal possession of firearms, Sandy Hook and live in a deluded group think world like liberals.
I readily agree there are lying pieces of shit partisan fuckwards on both sides of the political divide. Still, self-defense is a fundamental right and enumerated in our Constitution. While I fully support immigration reform, I do not condone encouraging criminals to break the law.
If this society didn't have guns, if they were banned, would we NEED them so much? We needed guns back in 1776 for sustenance, or to fight British overlords and their minions. We have supermarkets and F 22 raptors now, why do we need guns? It's a silly self sustaining argument. We NEED guns to protect us from people with guns?

:clap2: Beautifully said.

You gotta wonder if these deep intellects that conclude the answer to violence is more violence must have been dropped on their heads at some point. SMH


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Yes.....and the mass shooters in Fort Hood, San Bernadino, the baseball shooter, the sororty shooter...how were all of them stopped again...

Oh yeah, asshole....by men and women with guns......

And the national socialists who murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children and started the 2nd World War...how were they stopped again? Rainbows and puppy dogs.....? No...by men with guns...

Moron....
 
Thank goodness. Who knows how many he would have killed if he'd been able to get a larger magazine?

I can change a mag in three seconds or less.
A lot of people might find this surprising but they arent that hard to change.

Yep...push the mag release,and before it hits the ground you damn near have your firearm reloaded.
These fools who think they're going to pull a Rambo are delusional...or as Matthew would say diluted.
 
Thank goodness. Who knows how many he would have killed if he'd been able to get a larger magazine?

I can change a mag in three seconds or less.
A lot of people might find this surprising but they arent that hard to change.

Yep...push the mag release,and before it hits the ground you damn near have your firearm reloaded.
These fools who think they're going to pull a Rambo are delusional...or as Matthew would say diluted.


The Sandy Hook shooter was reloading as he went, and dropped his magazines before they were empty...combat reloading.....he could have killed that many children with a pump action shot gun and several revolvers....
 
Thank goodness. Who knows how many he would have killed if he'd been able to get a larger magazine?

I can change a mag in three seconds or less.
A lot of people might find this surprising but they arent that hard to change.

Yep...push the mag release,and before it hits the ground you damn near have your firearm reloaded.
These fools who think they're going to pull a Rambo are delusional...or as Matthew would say diluted.
I really love that some people cant figure out you can do just as much damage with three 10 round magazines as you can one thirty round one it just might take you a couple seconds longer.
 
Thank goodness. Who knows how many he would have killed if he'd been able to get a larger magazine?

I can change a mag in three seconds or less.
A lot of people might find this surprising but they arent that hard to change.

Yep...push the mag release,and before it hits the ground you damn near have your firearm reloaded.
These fools who think they're going to pull a Rambo are delusional...or as Matthew would say diluted.
I really love that some people cant figure out you can do just as much damage with three 10 round magazines as you can one thirty round one it just might take you a couple seconds longer.


The Cumbria mass shooting in Britain.....shotgun,.22 caliber bolt action rifle and ....killed 12 people...

Notice...this shooting took place 14 years after they banned guns in Britain...

Cumbria shootings - Wikipedia

The Cumbria shootings was a killing spree that occurred on 2 June 2010 when a lone gunman, Derrick Bird, killed 12 people and injured 11 others before killing himself in Cumbria, England. Along with the 1987 Hungerford massacre, the 1989 Monkseaton shootings, and the 1996 Dunblane school massacre, it is one of the worst criminal acts involving firearms in British history.
 
Thank goodness. Who knows how many he would have killed if he'd been able to get a larger magazine?

I can change a mag in three seconds or less.
A lot of people might find this surprising but they arent that hard to change.

Yep...push the mag release,and before it hits the ground you damn near have your firearm reloaded.
These fools who think they're going to pull a Rambo are delusional...or as Matthew would say diluted.


The Sandy Hook shooter was reloading as he went, and dropped his magazines before they were empty...combat reloading.....he could have killed that many children with a pump action shot gun and several revolvers....

Yep... Ya change mags when it's appropriate,not when they're empty. Of course if you plan on being in a protracted fight you'd have to bag the partial mags slowing the reload.
 
Thank goodness. Who knows how many he would have killed if he'd been able to get a larger magazine?

I can change a mag in three seconds or less.
A lot of people might find this surprising but they arent that hard to change.

Yep...push the mag release,and before it hits the ground you damn near have your firearm reloaded.
These fools who think they're going to pull a Rambo are delusional...or as Matthew would say diluted.
I really love that some people cant figure out you can do just as much damage with three 10 round magazines as you can one thirty round one it just might take you a couple seconds longer.


The Dunblane shooting in Britain..the one that they used to ban and confiscate guns.....a 2 semi auto pistols and 2 revolvers....17 dead.......

Dunblane school massacre - Wikipedia

The Dunblane school massacre was the deadliest mass shooting in the UK's history, when gunman Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children and one teacher at Dunblane Primary School near Stirling, Scotland, on 13 March 1996, before killing himself.
 
Thank goodness. Who knows how many he would have killed if he'd been able to get a larger magazine?

I can change a mag in three seconds or less.
A lot of people might find this surprising but they arent that hard to change.

Yep...push the mag release,and before it hits the ground you damn near have your firearm reloaded.
These fools who think they're going to pull a Rambo are delusional...or as Matthew would say diluted.


The Sandy Hook shooter was reloading as he went, and dropped his magazines before they were empty...combat reloading.....he could have killed that many children with a pump action shot gun and several revolvers....

Yep... Ya change mags when it's appropriate,not when they're empty. Of course if you plan on being in a protracted fight you'd have to bag the partial mags slowing the reload.


....oh...I forgot to add slightly.
 
Thank goodness. Who knows how many he would have killed if he'd been able to get a larger magazine?

I can change a mag in three seconds or less.
A lot of people might find this surprising but they arent that hard to change.

Yep...push the mag release,and before it hits the ground you damn near have your firearm reloaded.
These fools who think they're going to pull a Rambo are delusional...or as Matthew would say diluted.


The Sandy Hook shooter was reloading as he went, and dropped his magazines before they were empty...combat reloading.....he could have killed that many children with a pump action shot gun and several revolvers....

Yep... Ya change mags when it's appropriate,not when they're empty. Of course if you plan on being in a protracted fight you'd have to bag the partial mags slowing the reload.


Mass shooters aren't there to engage in a gun fight....they don't care, they drop their magazines and keep killing...since no one can shoot back.....
 
He was a law abiding citizen. Right up to the moment he pulled the trigger.


No...apparently not....since he committed a mass public shooting. And he was fired for some reason, wasn't he? I wonder why that was......Doctors get fired from hospitals all the time...right? For no good reason..right?
 
He was a law abiding citizen. Right up to the moment he pulled the trigger.

He resigned because he was accused of sexual harrassment...moron...so no...he wasn't a law abiding citizen.....and for him to resign.....it had to be serious...

Gunman Opens Fire At Bronx-Lebanon Hospital Center: 1 Victim Dead, 6 Wounded

Bello resigned from the hospital in 2015 after allegations of sexual harassment.

“[Bello] was let go because I guess they figured he was unstable,” witness Dione Morales said. “He said he was going to do this.”

Morales said Bello made the threat two years ago when he left the hospital.

Here we have another failure of the system.........they knew this guy was a problem...and not a law abiding citizen...

Moron....
 
He was a law abiding citizen. Right up to the moment he pulled the trigger.

He resigned because he was accused of sexual harrassment...moron...so no...he wasn't a law abiding citizen.....and for him to resign.....it had to be serious...

Gunman Opens Fire At Bronx-Lebanon Hospital Center: 1 Victim Dead, 6 Wounded

Bello resigned from the hospital in 2015 after allegations of sexual harassment.

“[Bello] was let go because I guess they figured he was unstable,” witness Dione Morales said. “He said he was going to do this.”

Morales said Bello made the threat two years ago when he left the hospital.

Here we have another failure of the system.........they knew this guy was a problem...and not a law abiding citizen...

Moron....
Under our system of jurisprudence, allegations do not equal a conviction. Moron.
 

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