NEWS FLASH!!!!!! Manafort lied about sharing poll data with Russian BFD!

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The charges against him had to do with the Ukraine, through 2014, when Yanucovich was ousted, and it is mentioned the Ukraine right there in the document.

This filing is about Manafort violating his agreement with the prosecution. And one of the reasons stated is that he lied about providing polling data to a suspected Russian intelligence operative during the 2016 election. What is so "far-fetched" about that? And, if the prosecution makes this claim in court, you can be sure they have evidence.




And no, Manafort was not employing the Podesta group, nor was the Trump campaign, at that time. We know what company they were using: Cambridge Analytica.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Think about what Manafort has done, here. He completely castrated himself with the agreement, denying himself any recourse against the Feds, should he break the agreement. And yet, somehow, someone put more pressure on him than this and got him to lie and pass on information anyway.

 

[depotoo]

Not if you read it properly. And there were no allegations regarding the presidential campaign in his charges. None. I am calling foul on this interpretation. I also went to find all the copies running around out there on this latest. Each is formatted differently. The signature names are listed on the right side of the main document, yet the signature names on the unredacted copy are on the left. What is up with that?

And here is a link to the indictment charges
Manafort Indictment

The charges against him had to do with the Ukraine, through 2014, when Yanucovich was ousted, and it is mentioned the Ukraine right there in the document.

This filing is about Manafort violating his agreement with the prosecution. And one of the reasons stated is that he lied about providing polling data to a suspected Russian intelligence operative during the 2016 election. What is so "far-fetched" about that? And, if the prosecution makes this claim in court, you can be sure they have evidence.

And no, Manafort was not employing the Podesta group, nor was the Trump campaign, at that time.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And there were no allegations regarding the presidential campaign in his charges.

I quote, from page 6 of the document:

"The same is true with regard to the Government's allegation that Mr. Manafort lied about sharing polling data with Mr. Kilmnik related to the 2016 presidential campaign."

As I said, sharing polling data, related to the 2016 campaign, with a suspected Russian intelligence operative. That is, in fact, the allegation being made.

Also, the filing is basically saying that those "lies" were merely "oopsies", due to Manafort's distraction by other issues. Basically, this constitutes admitting outright that Manafart did, indeed, share this data with the suspected Russian operative.

Think on that. The head of the campaign, knowingly working with a Russian spy. Fascinating.

Now, ask yourself.... why would this be redacted? Easy answer: it's related to ongoing investigations.

 

[Issa]

How stupid are you fukkers? Sharing this data was perfectly legal (assuming it even happened), and has nothing to do with a CONSPIRACY TO IMPACT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - which is the ONLY question at issue.

The "problem," to the extent there is one for Manafort, is that he may have lied about it. Again, a classic "Perjury Trap." Lying about perfectly legal matters.

So the fuck what?

You seem ok by the fact that tRUMP circle reached out to the commies of Russia...but you hate the American commies for wanting health care for all. Why is that?

 

[Slyhunter]

How stupid are you fukkers? Sharing this data was perfectly legal (assuming it even happened), and has nothing to do with a CONSPIRACY TO IMPACT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - which is the ONLY question at issue.

The "problem," to the extent there is one for Manafort, is that he may have lied about it. Again, a classic "Perjury Trap." Lying about perfectly legal matters.

So the fuck what?

You seem ok by the fact that tRUMP circle reached out to the commies of Russia...but you hate the American commies for wanting health care for all. Why is that?

Why is it the Dems keep ignoring the Chinese part of the equation?

 

[Faun]

Not if you read it properly. And there were no allegations regarding the presidential campaign in his charges. None. I am calling foul on this interpretation. I also went to find all the copies running around out there on this latest. Each is formatted differently. The signature names are listed on the right side of the main document, yet the signature names on the unredacted copy are on the left. What is up with that?
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And here is a link to the indictment charges
Manafort Indictment

The charges against him had to do with the Ukraine, through 2014, when Yanucovich was ousted, and it is mentioned the Ukraine right there in the document.

This filing is about Manafort violating his agreement with the prosecution. And one of the reasons stated is that he lied about providing polling data to a suspected Russian intelligence operative during the 2016 election. What is so "far-fetched" about that? And, if the prosecution makes this claim in court, you can be sure they have evidence.

And no, Manafort was not employing the Podesta group, nor was the Trump campaign, at that time.

You fucking piece of shit liar. You're posting a document from almost a year and a half ago.



... who do you think you're fooling besides yourself?

 

[depotoo]

And there were no allegations regarding the presidential campaign in his charges.

I quote, from page 6 of the document:

"The same is true with regard to the Government's allegation that Mr. Manafort lied about sharing polling data with Mr. Kilmnik related to the 2016 presidential campaign."

As I said, sharing polling data, related to the 2016 campaign, with a suspected Russian intelligence operative. That is, in fact, the allegation being made.

Also, the filing is basically saying that those "lies" were merely "oopsies", due to Manafort's distraction by other issues. Basically, this constitutes admitting outright that Manafart did, indeed, share this data with the suspected Russian operative.

Think on that. The head of the campaign, knowingly working with a Russian spy. Fascinating.

Now, ask yourself.... why would this be redacted? Easy answer: it's related to ongoing investigations.

Revoke
Here is the revocation charges. Still nothing as to anything alluded to here.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And there were no allegations regarding the presidential campaign in his charges.

I quote, from page 6 of the document:

"The same is true with regard to the Government's allegation that Mr. Manafort lied about sharing polling data with Mr. Kilmnik related to the 2016 presidential campaign."

As I said, sharing polling data, related to the 2016 campaign, with a suspected Russian intelligence operative. That is, in fact, the allegation being made.

Also, the filing is basically saying that those "lies" were merely "oopsies", due to Manafort's distraction by other issues. Basically, this constitutes admitting outright that Manafart did, indeed, share this data with the suspected Russian operative.

Think on that. The head of the campaign, knowingly working with a Russian spy. Fascinating.

Now, ask yourself.... why would this be redacted? Easy answer: it's related to ongoing investigations.

Revoke
Here is the revocation charges. Still nothing as to anything alluded to here.

That is not a direct response to my last post. That is sidestepping.

 

[depotoo]

The charges against him had to do with the Ukraine, through 2014, when Yanucovich was ousted, and it is mentioned the Ukraine right there in the document.

This filing is about Manafort violating his agreement with the prosecution. And one of the reasons stated is that he lied about providing polling data to a suspected Russian intelligence operative during the 2016 election. What is so "far-fetched" about that? And, if the prosecution makes this claim in court, you can be sure they have evidence.




And no, Manafort was not employing the Podesta group, nor was the Trump campaign, at that time. We know what company they were using: Cambridge Analytica.

Actually he did.
Sources: Podesta Group, Mercury are companies 'A' and 'B' in indictment


In September, Manafort admitted to directing Mercury and the Podesta Group to lobby in the US on behalf of a Ukrainian political party and Ukraine’s government, then led by President Viktor Yanukovych, Manafort’s longtime political patron.

While doing the lobbying, neither the Podesta Group nor Mercury registered as foreign agents under a US law known as the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA, which requires lobbyists to declare publicly if they represent foreign leaders, governments or their political parties.
https://nypost.com/2018/12/05/feds-ramp-up-probe-into-podesta-lobbying-firm-with-ties-to-manafort/

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The charges against him had to do with the Ukraine, through 2014, when Yanucovich was ousted, and it is mentioned the Ukraine right there in the document.

This filing is about Manafort violating his agreement with the prosecution. And one of the reasons stated is that he lied about providing polling data to a suspected Russian intelligence operative during the 2016 election. What is so "far-fetched" about that? And, if the prosecution makes this claim in court, you can be sure they have evidence.




And no, Manafort was not employing the Podesta group, nor was the Trump campaign, at that time. We know what company they were using: Cambridge Analytica.

Actually he did.
Sources: Podesta Group, Mercury are companies 'A' and 'B' in indictment


In September, Manafort admitted to directing Mercury and the Podesta Group to lobby in the US on behalf of a Ukrainian political party and Ukraine’s government, then led by President Viktor Yanukovych, Manafort’s longtime political patron.

While doing the lobbying, neither the Podesta Group nor Mercury registered as foreign agents under a US law known as the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA, which requires lobbyists to declare publicly if they represent foreign leaders, governments or their political parties.
https://nypost.com/2018/12/05/feds-ramp-up-probe-into-podesta-lobbying-firm-with-ties-to-manafort/

Right, but as you were quick to point out earlier, those events occurred prior to the trump campaign. The specific allegation I mentioned could not have happened earlier than during the Trump campaign. No, the campaign was not using the podesta group, but rather Cambridge Analytica. Those are all facts.

 

[depotoo]

And read the last charges filed. They have nothing to do with anything bu tampering witnesses about actions regarding the charges against him for the Ukraine lobbying, laundering, etc. Nothing even begins to suggest at all what you all claim. Read it top to bottom.

The charges against him had to do with the Ukraine, through 2014, when Yanucovich was ousted, and it is mentioned the Ukraine right there in the document.

This filing is about Manafort violating his agreement with the prosecution. And one of the reasons stated is that he lied about providing polling data to a suspected Russian intelligence operative during the 2016 election. What is so "far-fetched" about that? And, if the prosecution makes this claim in court, you can be sure they have evidence.




And no, Manafort was not employing the Podesta group, nor was the Trump campaign, at that time. We know what company they were using: Cambridge Analytica.

Actually he did.
Sources: Podesta Group, Mercury are companies 'A' and 'B' in indictment


In September, Manafort admitted to directing Mercury and the Podesta Group to lobby in the US on behalf of a Ukrainian political party and Ukraine’s government, then led by President Viktor Yanukovych, Manafort’s longtime political patron.

While doing the lobbying, neither the Podesta Group nor Mercury registered as foreign agents under a US law known as the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA, which requires lobbyists to declare publicly if they represent foreign leaders, governments or their political parties.
https://nypost.com/2018/12/05/feds-ramp-up-probe-into-podesta-lobbying-firm-with-ties-to-manafort/

Right, but as you were quick to point out earlier, those events occurred prior to the trump campaign. The specific allegation I mentioned could not have happened earlier than during the Trump campaign. No, the campaign was not using the podesta group, but rather Cambridge Analytica. Those are all facts.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And read the last charges filed.

No, because that is not what I am talking about. I am stating that the Mueller team has alleged, in court, that Manafort passed 2016 polling data to a Russian spy. Manafort's team has just all but admitted it in their court filing.

 

[depotoo]

No, Pidesta admitted it. Those are facts.

The charges against him had to do with the Ukraine, through 2014, when Yanucovich was ousted, and it is mentioned the Ukraine right there in the document.

This filing is about Manafort violating his agreement with the prosecution. And one of the reasons stated is that he lied about providing polling data to a suspected Russian intelligence operative during the 2016 election. What is so "far-fetched" about that? And, if the prosecution makes this claim in court, you can be sure they have evidence.




And no, Manafort was not employing the Podesta group, nor was the Trump campaign, at that time. We know what company they were using: Cambridge Analytica.

Actually he did.
Sources: Podesta Group, Mercury are companies 'A' and 'B' in indictment


In September, Manafort admitted to directing Mercury and the Podesta Group to lobby in the US on behalf of a Ukrainian political party and Ukraine’s government, then led by President Viktor Yanukovych, Manafort’s longtime political patron.

While doing the lobbying, neither the Podesta Group nor Mercury registered as foreign agents under a US law known as the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA, which requires lobbyists to declare publicly if they represent foreign leaders, governments or their political parties.
https://nypost.com/2018/12/05/feds-ramp-up-probe-into-podesta-lobbying-firm-with-ties-to-manafort/

Right, but as you were quick to point out earlier, those events occurred prior to the trump campaign. The specific allegation I mentioned could not have happened earlier than during the Trump campaign. No, the campaign was not using the podesta group, but rather Cambridge Analytica. Those are all facts.

Podesta Group files new disclosures in Manafort-linked Ukraine lobbying
Podesta lobby group did not disclose extent of work for Ukrainian campaign advised by Paul Manafort - CNNPolitics
Podesta lobby group did not disclose extent of work for Ukrainian campaign advised by Paul Manafort
CNN

 

[depotoo]

And read the last charges filed.

No, because that is not what I am talking about. I am stating that the Mueller team has alleged, in court, that Manafort passed 2016 polling data to a Russian spy. Manafort's team has just all but admitted it in their court filing.

Yet no charges have been filed claiming such.

 

[Lesh]

Podesta had some kind of involvement with Manafort in 2012.

Ok and?

 

[depotoo]

Podesta had some kind of involvement with Manafort in 2012.

Ok and?

And 2012 is one of the years they lobbied for Manafort for the Ukraine, in which they did not disclose, in which they and Manafort received payments for, in which Manafort was charged, but they weren’t, as of yet. You do know they closed their group down recently, correct?
Inside the Podesta Group's last days

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yet no charges have been filed claiming such.

So?

 

[AntonToo]

Although the filing does not say whether the polling information was public or what was done with it, it raises the possibility that Russia might have used inside information from the Trump campaign as part of its effort to interfere with the election on Trump’s behalf.

Filing: Manafort lied about sharing poll data with Russian

SO what is the BIG f...king DEAL? This deserves a headline!
More importantly... SO what if he did share polling data? BIG f...king DEAL!

A) Is there ANY proof that the Russians hacked into any states voting ballots and altered them?
ANY????

B) SO what if they tried to influence voters? What do you dummies that get all excited as the AP did i.e. the above as THEY are doing that RIGHT now with this article!

They are trying to influence voters that Trump is bad. That is influencing the voters.
If the Russians did that it is no different than the AP doing it!

But this is just further proof of how poorly the MSM is doing and further justification for this action!
Dallas Morning News lays off 43 as company struggles with revenue declines
Dallas Morning News lays off 43 as company struggles with revenue declines | The Dallas Morning News | Dallas News

The web survey of 1,440 Gallup Panel members sought to quantify exactly how much problematic information people believe they encounter in traditional news media as well as on social media.

Overall, U.S. adults estimate that 62% of the news they read in newspapers, see on television or hear on the radio is biased.Americans: Much Misinformation, Bias, Inaccuracy in News

Geeezus, don't look now but your roof is totally sliding off.

Trump campaign chair colaborating with Russians who he owns money to is ABSOLUTELY a story, and yes, stories tend to need a HEADING.

 

[healthmyths]

Although the filing does not say whether the polling information was public or what was done with it, it raises the possibility that Russia might have used inside information from the Trump campaign as part of its effort to interfere with the election on Trump’s behalf.

Filing: Manafort lied about sharing poll data with Russian

SO what is the BIG f...king DEAL? This deserves a headline!
More importantly... SO what if he did share polling data? BIG f...king DEAL!

A) Is there ANY proof that the Russians hacked into any states voting ballots and altered them?
ANY????

B) SO what if they tried to influence voters? What do you dummies that get all excited as the AP did i.e. the above as THEY are doing that RIGHT now with this article!

They are trying to influence voters that Trump is bad. That is influencing the voters.
If the Russians did that it is no different than the AP doing it!

But this is just further proof of how poorly the MSM is doing and further justification for this action!
Dallas Morning News lays off 43 as company struggles with revenue declines
Dallas Morning News lays off 43 as company struggles with revenue declines | The Dallas Morning News | Dallas News

The web survey of 1,440 Gallup Panel members sought to quantify exactly how much problematic information people believe they encounter in traditional news media as well as on social media.

Overall, U.S. adults estimate that 62% of the news they read in newspapers, see on television or hear on the radio is biased.Americans: Much Misinformation, Bias, Inaccuracy in News

Geeezus, don't look now but your roof is totally sliding off.

Trump campaign chair colaborating with Russians who he owns money to is ABSOLUTELY a story, and yes, stories tend to need a HEADING.

And Bill Clinton was PAID $500,000 for a speech by the Russians!

The former president indeed had received a personal call from then-Prime Minister Vladimir Putin expressing his appreciation for the speech.
According to Mrs. Clinton’s ethics disclosure form filed while she was secretary of State, Bill Clinton was paid $500,000 by the Russia-based finance company
Renaissance Capital for his June 29, 2010, speech in Moscow to its employees and guests attending the company's annual conference.

The speech is now coming back to haunt the Clintons, considering the company that cut the check was allegedly tied to the scandal that spurred the Global Magnitsky Act, a bill that imposed sanctions on Russians designated as human-rights abusers and eventually would become law in 2012.
Hillary Clinton sided with Russia on sanctions as Bill made $500G on Moscow speech