Redfish
Diamond Member
In a parallel universe we also lost Eisenhower's and Nixon's Vietnam war.
Musta been four wars.
(/WAYTHEFUCK off topic)
You don't know that Johnson was the President who got us into Vietnam? Seriously? Kennedy made the treaties and sent the first troops, Johnson escalated it. I can't believe you don't know that. Incredible. Johnson also was the one who engaged in limited warfare where we didn't try to win.
Wow, you are one dumb, ignorant hillbilly ...
Eisenhower. Too uninvolved to control Dulles.
Look it up.
No shit. But you said that Eisenhower was as much to blame as Kennedy and Johnson, which is just retarded. It really was Johnson's war the way it was fought. Eisenhower was only involved in sending in training troops.
I don't have any issue with what either Eisenhower or Kennedy or what they did. Nixon was handed a tough situation given that when he got the war was when the press and the country turned against it. He then went on to botch it further. He should have either won the war or left immediately.
But it was clearly Johnson's war. Johnson sent in the first US troops to actually fight (Eisenhower, Kennedy only sent in troops to train), Johnson escalated it to be a major war. Johnson set the rules of engagement that the troops were prohibited from winning the war. It was Johnson's war
I didn't post the word "blame" at all, troll-boi-girl-thing. You just pulled that out of your ass.
What I did do was correct a partisan hack poster who cherrypicked two POTUSes from his Emmanuel Goldstein political party and whitewashed two others from his own, and let him know that he wasn't going to get away with that historical revision any more than he was going to get away with the Lost Cause revision or --- to actually return to the actual TOPIC --- than he was going to get away with the racial fingerpointing about NFL players resisting forced marches.
And you just helped me do it although it was already done before you popped up attention whoring going ME ME ME.
Now then, will there be anything else today or would you like to go wash your ass?
You said that the war was as much Nixon/Eisenhower as Kennedy/Johnson. The war was all Johnson, so no, it wasn't. The war wasn't as much Eisenhower/Kennedy/Nixon as it was Johnson. Johnson created the monster.
I see you're still struggling with your sexual identity
yes, Lyndon Johnson, the democrat who said "I'll have them ni66ers voting democrat for the next 200 years"