NLRB: College athletes can unionize

[thereisnospoon]

If they help generate the money, why shouldn't they get a portion of it.

Once you pay them a salary, they lose their amateur status.

Once they lose their amateur status, they are no longer able to compete at the NCAA level.

The NCAA will hold their position, and students will have to decide if they wish to play or not.

Most of the kids are fortunate to be able to play football for a free ride and a college degree with no debt.

They do....That scholarship is plenty of compensation...

 

[Nosmo King]

Once you pay them a salary, they lose their amateur status.

Once they lose their amateur status, they are no longer able to compete at the NCAA level.

The NCAA will hold their position, and students will have to decide if they wish to play or not.

The NCAA has outlived its usefulness and should be scraped. Along with the BCS.

Great.

How much do you pay the 'athletes'?

Do you pay an 'athlete' at Harvard the same that you pay the 'athlete' at Southern Baptist College For Revivalist Preachers?

Who determines that? You?

The current system works pretty good.

A word of caution, people. You let dimocrap scum into this mess? They gonna fuck it up.

Word.

Most of these kids would never get any closer to a College Campus than the Janitor's Room without College athletics.

A lot of other kids who have about as much chance of making the NFL or NBA as I do (none) get a free education and some very good experience in life-lessons.

dims would fuck up a one-car-funeral.

Every time.

Nothing's perfect but you let a libturd get involved...... They'll make it worse. Every time

For a free market Conservative, you sure sound like a restrictive exploitive robber baron!

I think each conference should set a pay scale. The Big Ten, the SEC, the PAC 12, and yes, the Ivy League should make the call. They are far more aware of the capital benefits of major sports. They know how much they have to spend. And they know their recruits.

Why shouldn't these student athletes have a few dollars rolling in their hands? Sure they receive and education, but they also risk career ending injuries, are restricted from earning any money from their names (see the memorabilia scandal that ended Jim Tressel's, as well as Terrell Pryor's college careers at Ohio State).

Let the marketplace take the lead.

 

[pioneerpete]

Do you want to pay the football players, or keep scholarships for women's softball? The revenue that big time men's football or basketball generate goes to supporting tennis, track, wrestling, golf, women's field hockey, and all the other college sports that you never see on espn. The other money that doesn't get to these sports are responsible for all those labs and computers you see on your campus. If you want to know if a major university's football or basketball team had a good season, you can count the building projects on campus. Paying these players will force the schools to recoup the revenue from another source. You and your child's student loan debt will be even higher!

 

[Katzndogz]

Next. Union negotiation of grades.

 

[auditor0007]

CHICAGO — In a stunning ruling that has the potential to revolutionize college athletics, a federal agency said Wednesday that football players at Northwestern University can create the nation's first college athlete's union.

Read more: NLRB: College athletes can unionize - Associated Press - POLITICO.com

Thoughts?

Mine: Its about dam time

Fuck yea, pay those players, but then stop paying for their education. They can then use their earnings to pay for their education. Of course, they will still need to pass their classes to remain on the payroll. Players want to unionize so they can get paid. Well good for them, but they are opening a can of worms they are not going to like dealing with.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

And thus the end of college sports begins, because it will eventually become more expensive to have college teams than it will be to simply not have them.

On the bright side, judging by Detroit's history, this fatal event is still more than 50 years away.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Next. Union negotiation of grades.

We already have that, it's called Common Core.

 

[auditor0007]

Do you want to pay the football players, or keep scholarships for women's softball? The revenue that big time men's football or basketball generate goes to supporting tennis, track, wrestling, golf, women's field hockey, and all the other college sports that you never see on espn. The other money that doesn't get to these sports are responsible for all those labs and computers you see on your campus. If you want to know if a major university's football or basketball team had a good season, you can count the building projects on campus. Paying these players will force the schools to recoup the revenue from another source. You and your child's student loan debt will be even higher!

The universities will just stop paying for their education and make them pay for it along with their room and board. No more free rides if you get paid. This is a road players should avoid because they are going to lose in the long run. Those who run the universities are a hell of a lot smarter than most of these idiot athletes. The cost to go to college for four years can easily reach $100,000 with room and board, even at public schools.

 

[Unkotare]

Those who run the universities are a hell of a lot smarter than most of these idiot athletes.

Why would you suggest athletes are idiots?

 

[auditor0007]

Those who run the universities are a hell of a lot smarter than most of these idiot athletes.

Why would you suggest athletes are idiots?

As a whole, you are suggesting they are smarter than those running our universities? Half of them can't read.

 

[pioneerpete]

Do you want to pay the football players, or keep scholarships for women's softball? The revenue that big time men's football or basketball generate goes to supporting tennis, track, wrestling, golf, women's field hockey, and all the other college sports that you never see on espn. The other money that doesn't get to these sports are responsible for all those labs and computers you see on your campus. If you want to know if a major university's football or basketball team had a good season, you can count the building projects on campus. Paying these players will force the schools to recoup the revenue from another source. You and your child's student loan debt will be even higher!

The universities will just stop paying for their education and make them pay for it along with their room and board. No more free rides if you get paid. This is a road players should avoid because they are going to lose in the long run. Those who run the universities are a hell of a lot smarter than most of these idiot athletes. The cost to go to college for four years can easily reach $100,000 with room and board, even at public schools.

The revenue sports will not change. It is the smaller sports that will feel this. There are only a handful of athletic departments that turn a profit once they meet their obligation to the university. Those smart university presidents that you speak of are not going to screw with the cash cow. It will be laid off somewhere else.

 

[Unkotare]

Half of them can't read.

Half of all college athletes can't read? Prove that, or reconsider the remark.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

wherever there is a revenue stream you can count on lefties to glom on and fuck it up for everybody...

the fact that the lefties in their ivory towers hate the great American game of football and they can cripple it in the process at many schools is a bonus for them....or even the purpose perhaps...?

 

[bendog]

wherever there is a revenue stream you can count on lefties to glom on and fuck it up for everybody...

the fact that the lefties in their ivory towers hate the great American game of football and they can cripple it in the process at many schools is a bonus for them....or even the purpose perhaps...?

ummm, not to get in the way of your rant, but it's THE PLAYERS who seek to unionize. But carry on.

 

[nodoginnafight]

If an athletic scholarship covered the full cost of attendance, this probably wouldn't be an issue.

A lot of misinformed people think an athletic scholarship does cover the full cost of attendance - it does not. And student athletes are prohibited from taking jobs - so the shortfall leads to cheating and taking "improper" benefits.

Myth 2: "These athletes generate an awful lot of money for their university"

Typically only football and men's basketball cover their own expenses (much less generate a profit). All the other sports colleges participate in lose money. At some schools even football and men's basketball lose money.

So if we are going to discuss the real issues around this, let's get our facts straight.

 

[bendog]

If an athletic scholarship covered the full cost of attendance, this probably wouldn't be an issue.

A lot of misinformed people think an athletic scholarship does cover the full cost of attendance - it does not. And student athletes are prohibited from taking jobs - so the shortfall leads to cheating and taking "improper" benefits.

Myth 2: "These athletes generate an awful lot of money for their university"

Typically only football and men's basketball cover their own expenses (much less generate a profit). All the other sports colleges participate in lose money. At some schools even football and men's basketball lose money.

So if we are going to discuss the real issues around this, let's get our facts straight.

yeah, but specifically we're talking Northwestern. And by extension, I assume, the Big Ten. Ironically, Northwestern is private, not public.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

They already get a free education and a chance at a multi million dollar career and that's not enough?

Ungrateful leeches if you want my opinion.

 

[nodoginnafight]

If an athletic scholarship covered the full cost of attendance, this probably wouldn't be an issue.

A lot of misinformed people think an athletic scholarship does cover the full cost of attendance - it does not. And student athletes are prohibited from taking jobs - so the shortfall leads to cheating and taking "improper" benefits.

Myth 2: "These athletes generate an awful lot of money for their university"

Typically only football and men's basketball cover their own expenses (much less generate a profit). All the other sports colleges participate in lose money. At some schools even football and men's basketball lose money.

So if we are going to discuss the real issues around this, let's get our facts straight.

yeah, but specifically we're talking Northwestern. And by extension, I assume, the Big Ten. Ironically, Northwestern is private, not public.

Yes. So if you accept a scholarship to attend a private university - should you expect that you're going to have to foot some of the bill for yourself?

But as far as labor law goes, I'm not sure the public university - private university distinction is very important is it?

 

[nodoginnafight]

They already get a free education and a chance at a multi million dollar career and that's not enough?

Ungrateful leeches if you want my opinion.

Yeah, a whole lot of those lacross players are looking at multi-million dollar career????

And what percentage of the football, basketball, baseball, hockey players are gonna land that multi-million $ career????

Anyway - I say cover the FULL COST of attendance and we don't have to worry about a union

 

[bendog]

If an athletic scholarship covered the full cost of attendance, this probably wouldn't be an issue.

A lot of misinformed people think an athletic scholarship does cover the full cost of attendance - it does not. And student athletes are prohibited from taking jobs - so the shortfall leads to cheating and taking "improper" benefits.

Myth 2: "These athletes generate an awful lot of money for their university"

Typically only football and men's basketball cover their own expenses (much less generate a profit). All the other sports colleges participate in lose money. At some schools even football and men's basketball lose money.

So if we are going to discuss the real issues around this, let's get our facts straight.

yeah, but specifically we're talking Northwestern. And by extension, I assume, the Big Ten. Ironically, Northwestern is private, not public.

Yes. So if you accept a scholarship to attend a private university - should you expect that you're going to have to foot some of the bill for yourself?

But as far as labor law goes, I'm not sure the public university - private university distinction is very important is it?

no no no, that's not what I meant at all. Northwestern was more or less the athletic doormat, but academic champ. Northwestern has had some recent Div I football success, but we're talking a conference with Ohio State Penn St and Michigan and Mich St too. Throw in the rest of the huge public universities

Your point that I agreed with was that if we really wanted to talk about the issue, we'd have to stick with facts. Basically, how much does the Northwestern athletic program bring in, with what sports, what does it spend, etc.

And, if we're talking big ten, we're talking bigger programs that just Northwestern