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You're making a lot of assumptions. I don't know the religious beliefs of the people in the stores that I frequent every day. Is that something that you keep track of?
My point exactly. And I'm speaking from the owner's perspective, not the customers.
The fact that you think it's a "war" says a lot more about you than it does about "the gays".
The fact you resorted to a genetic argument says more about you that it does your argument. Oops.
The "previous response" is nonsense.
That's it? Surely you can do better than "nonsense."
There's nothing more amusing to me than people who try to claim that they're being persecuted because they can't discriminate against gay people anymore.
There's nothing more amusing to me than people who think that a law can be used to protect only one class of people while being used to punish the other. We call that elitism and/or a double standard.
The fact that you think not discriminating on the basis of orientation is a "punishment" is kinda my whole point.
The fact that you think it is okay to use a law to subvert religious belief is my whole point also. So, it seems we've reached an impasse.
Denying queers Christian-baked wedding cakes is not "discrimination".
Though forcing Christians to bake wedding cakes for queers might be a civil rights violation. Possibly a human rights violation....depending on how severely one opts to "punish" the Christians who refuse to be enslaved to the queers.
Case in point. KG comes through with the "persecution" meme.
I know, it sucks to have your queer persecution meme squished all to hell by reality.
Christian baked. Lol, no. Are they operating like a Christian bakery? Why no, they are not.Denying queers Christian-baked wedding cakes is not "discrimination".
Though forcing Christians to bake wedding cakes for queers might be a civil rights violation. Possibly a human rights violation....depending on how severely one opts to "punish" the Christians who refuse to be enslaved to the queers.
You're making a lot of assumptions. I don't know the religious beliefs of the people in the stores that I frequent every day. Is that something that you keep track of?
My point exactly. And I'm speaking from the owner's perspective, not the customers.
The fact that you think it's a "war" says a lot more about you than it does about "the gays".
The fact you resorted to a genetic argument says more about you that it does your argument. Oops.
The "previous response" is nonsense.
That's it? Surely you can do better than "nonsense."
There's nothing more amusing to me than people who try to claim that they're being persecuted because they can't discriminate against gay people anymore.
There's nothing more amusing to me than people who think that a law can be used to protect only one class of people while being used to punish the other. We call that elitism and/or a double standard.
The fact that you think not discriminating on the basis of orientation is a "punishment" is kinda my whole point.
The fact that you think it is okay to use a law to subvert religious belief is my whole point also. So, it seems we've reached an impasse.
Laws "subvert religious beliefs" all the time.
Let's use Islam as an example. Do you support legalizing honor killings in the US?
How about some Old Testament Justice. Should I be allowed to murder my neighbor for wearing a cotton/polyester blend?
How dare those laws get in the way of my religious beliefs!!!
Denying queers Christian-baked wedding cakes is not "discrimination".
Though forcing Christians to bake wedding cakes for queers might be a civil rights violation. Possibly a human rights violation....depending on how severely one opts to "punish" the Christians who refuse to be enslaved to the queers.
Case in point. KG comes through with the "persecution" meme.
With all due respect, Doc, isn't what you're doing trolling?
Nope.
Care to expound on that, sir? You hurled a genetic argument at me, and then referred to one of my points as 'nonsense' without putting any effort into rebutting it. That came off as trolling to me. Fine, whatever.
You're making a lot of assumptions. I don't know the religious beliefs of the people in the stores that I frequent every day. Is that something that you keep track of?
My point exactly. And I'm speaking from the owner's perspective, not the customers.
The fact that you think it's a "war" says a lot more about you than it does about "the gays".
The fact you resorted to a genetic argument says more about you that it does your argument. Oops.
The "previous response" is nonsense.
That's it? Surely you can do better than "nonsense."
There's nothing more amusing to me than people who try to claim that they're being persecuted because they can't discriminate against gay people anymore.
There's nothing more amusing to me than people who think that a law can be used to protect only one class of people while being used to punish the other. We call that elitism and/or a double standard.
The fact that you think not discriminating on the basis of orientation is a "punishment" is kinda my whole point.
The fact that you think it is okay to use a law to subvert religious belief is my whole point also. So, it seems we've reached an impasse.
Laws "subvert religious beliefs" all the time.
Let's use Islam as an example. Do you support legalizing honor killings in the US?
How about some Old Testament Justice. Should I be allowed to murder my neighbor for wearing a cotton/polyester blend?
How dare those laws get in the way of my religious beliefs!!!
Sure, if you want to believe in stereotypes.
No. The did not advertise as Christian bakers like thoselittle Christian bookstores do. They simply used Christianity to portray themselves as victims.Christian baked. Lol, no. Are they operating like a Christian bakery? Why no, they are not.Denying queers Christian-baked wedding cakes is not "discrimination".
Though forcing Christians to bake wedding cakes for queers might be a civil rights violation. Possibly a human rights violation....depending on how severely one opts to "punish" the Christians who refuse to be enslaved to the queers.
Actually they were. Go read the news once in a while.
You're making a lot of assumptions. I don't know the religious beliefs of the people in the stores that I frequent every day. Is that something that you keep track of?
My point exactly. And I'm speaking from the owner's perspective, not the customers.
The fact that you think it's a "war" says a lot more about you than it does about "the gays".
The fact you resorted to a genetic argument says more about you that it does your argument. Oops.
The "previous response" is nonsense.
That's it? Surely you can do better than "nonsense."
There's nothing more amusing to me than people who try to claim that they're being persecuted because they can't discriminate against gay people anymore.
There's nothing more amusing to me than people who think that a law can be used to protect only one class of people while being used to punish the other. We call that elitism and/or a double standard.
The fact that you think not discriminating on the basis of orientation is a "punishment" is kinda my whole point.
The fact that you think it is okay to use a law to subvert religious belief is my whole point also. So, it seems we've reached an impasse.
Laws "subvert religious beliefs" all the time.
Let's use Islam as an example. Do you support legalizing honor killings in the US?
How about some Old Testament Justice. Should I be allowed to murder my neighbor for wearing a cotton/polyester blend?
How dare those laws get in the way of my religious beliefs!!!
Denying queers Christian-baked wedding cakes is not "discrimination".
Though forcing Christians to bake wedding cakes for queers might be a civil rights violation. Possibly a human rights violation....depending on how severely one opts to "punish" the Christians who refuse to be enslaved to the queers.
Case in point. KG comes through with the "persecution" meme.
I know, it sucks to have your queer persecution meme squished all to hell by reality.
It's funny that you think that's what happened.
Denying queers Christian-baked wedding cakes is not "discrimination".
Though forcing Christians to bake wedding cakes for queers might be a civil rights violation. Possibly a human rights violation....depending on how severely one opts to "punish" the Christians who refuse to be enslaved to the queers.
Case in point. KG comes through with the "persecution" meme.
I know, it sucks to have your queer persecution meme squished all to hell by reality.
It's funny that you think that's what happened.
Yes, I'm partial to reality.
My point exactly. And I'm speaking from the owner's perspective, not the customers.
The fact you resorted to a genetic argument says more about you that it does your argument. Oops.
That's it? Surely you can do better than "nonsense."
There's nothing more amusing to me than people who think that a law can be used to protect only one class of people while being used to punish the other. We call that elitism and/or a double standard.
The fact that you think not discriminating on the basis of orientation is a "punishment" is kinda my whole point.
The fact that you think it is okay to use a law to subvert religious belief is my whole point also. So, it seems we've reached an impasse.
Laws "subvert religious beliefs" all the time.
Let's use Islam as an example. Do you support legalizing honor killings in the US?
How about some Old Testament Justice. Should I be allowed to murder my neighbor for wearing a cotton/polyester blend?
How dare those laws get in the way of my religious beliefs!!!
Sure, if you want to believe in stereotypes.
That doesn't make any sense. Will you agree that religious beliefs don't trump the law?
I think it's really funny to compare this thread with the hysterical "sharia law" threads.
I think it's really funny to compare this thread with the hysterical "sharia law" threads.
Isn't that what you just did?
I think it's really funny to compare this thread with the hysterical "sharia law" threads.
Isn't that what you just did?
Yes, that is exactly what I did. Because it's funny.
I think it's really funny to compare this thread with the hysterical "sharia law" threads.
Isn't that what you just did?
Yes, that is exactly what I did. Because it's funny.
I think it's really funny to compare this thread with the hysterical "sharia law" threads.
Isn't that what you just did?
Yes, that is exactly what I did. Because it's funny.
But is isn't an argument. Come on man. If you want comedy go watch the last episodes of Jon Stewart or something. I thought I'd get one serious response from you....
I can't, not with your head in the way
I think it's really funny to compare this thread with the hysterical "sharia law" threads.
Isn't that what you just did?
Yes, that is exactly what I did. Because it's funny.
But is isn't an argument. Come on man. If you want comedy go watch the last episodes of Jon Stewart or something. I thought I'd get one serious response from you....
It IS an argument.
It's completely relevant to what we're talking about - that in this country, the law trumps religious beliefs.
I think it's really funny to compare this thread with the hysterical "sharia law" threads.
Isn't that what you just did?
Yes, that is exactly what I did. Because it's funny.
But is isn't an argument. Come on man. If you want comedy go watch the last episodes of Jon Stewart or something. I thought I'd get one serious response from you....
It IS an argument.
It's completely relevant to what we're talking about - that in this country, the law trumps religious beliefs.
So acting the clown is an argument now. Okay then. So why is there a law or laws protecting religious beliefs then? The RFRA for one, the First Amendment for two.
