No Federal Charges Against Officers In Tamir Rice Shooting.

You dont wait while an armed person is pointing a gun at people in a park. Their job is to protect the civilians.

Starting @4:30, the video clearly shows, he didn't point the gun at all for nearly 3 minutes before police arrived. How could the police know he would point the gun at someone then?

 
You dont wait while an armed person is pointing a gun at people in a park. Their job is to protect the civilians.

Starting @4:30, the video clearly shows, he didn't point the gun at all for nearly 3 minutes before police arrived. How could the police know he would point the gun at someone then?


The cops were called because he was pointing a gun a people in the park.
 
The reports ive seen said Tamir reached for the gun when they pulled up. Do you think cops go around shooting unarmed people at random?

As you can see in the video, he was walking and moving his hands like everyone does when they walk. Of course, those cops will say he was reaching for something.
 
If someone is pointing a gun from a house, do the police run up and stand in front of the house?

Nope, they park a safe distance away and use their loudspeaker - And DIPLOMACY in order to diffuse the situation.


Diplomacy, like this police officer did in the supermarket?

The nut still didn't put down his gun and had to be shot 6 times.
 
CLEVELAND (WJW)– The U.S. Department of Justice closed its independent investigation into the deadly shooting of 12-year-old Tamir Rice.

The Justice Department said it found insufficient evidence to support federal criminal charges against Cleveland Division of Police Officers Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback. Rice’s family was notified of the decision on Monday.

“Although Tamir Rice’s death is tragic, the evidence does not meet these substantial evidentiary requirements. In light of this, and for the reasons explained below, career federal prosecutors with both the Civil Rights Division and the U.S. Attorney’s Office concluded that this matter is not a prosecutable violation of the federal statutes,” the DOJ said in a news release on Tuesday.

The DOJ said video of the incident is time-lapsed, grainy and doesn’t have audio so Rice’s hands are not visible at relevant times. Federal investigators also said Loehmann and Garmback gave several statements and consistently repeated main points.

Rice was shot and killed at Cudell Recreation Center on West Boulevard in Cleveland on Nov. 22, 2014 after a person called 911 reporting seeing a person with a gun. The caller said the individual was, “probably a juvenile” and the gun was, “probably fake.” That information was not passed along to the officers, according to the investigation.

Police said Loehmann opened fire when he said the boy reached towards his waistband. The gun turned out to be an airsoft pistol.


Loehmann was fired from the Cleveland Division of Police in 2017 for lying on his police application, not the deadly shooting. His termination, though appealed, was upheld by the Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court.


There is a divide on whether the officer was in his right to shoot the 5'9" 195lbs 12 year old. It's mostly divided on party lines: the cop haters vs the cop supporters. In spite of the grand jury ruling not to indict officer Loehmann, the city still made his mother rich by handing her 5 million taxpayer dollars, which could have been used for much better things for the citizens. Now, this is a second ruling that the officers did nothing illegal, while some will say Loehmann was still wrong. Before the cop haters chime in and say the kid only had a toy, here is a picture of the real gun, and the replica the toy was made from. Can you tell the difference, especially in a split seconds time?


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The cop was warned over the radio that there was a teen waving a fake pistol. What's more egregious here is the fact that the cop shot him as he was opening the door getting out of the car. Barely two seconds after they arrived. The boy never leveled the toy at the officer. The officer just fired and that was it.
Why would someone call the cops for some fat kid waving a toy pistol?

I know it's complicated.
 
If someone is pointing a gun from a house, do the police run up and stand in front of the house?

Nope, they park a safe distance away and use their loudspeaker - And DIPLOMACY in order to diffuse the situation.

Diplomacy, like this police officer did in the supermarket?

The nut still didn't put down his gun and had to be shot 6 times.

You've been watching too many stupid movies. :)


Cobra isn't a "stupid movie", it is a police drama with the tremendous Stallone in the lead role as a police officer dealing with homicidal scum bags.
 
If someone is pointing a gun from a house, do the police run up and stand in front of the house?

Nope, they park a safe distance away and use their loudspeaker - And DIPLOMACY in order to diffuse the situation.

Diplomacy, like this police officer did in the supermarket?

The nut still didn't put down his gun and had to be shot 6 times.

You've been watching too many stupid movies. :)


Cobra isn't a "stupid movie", it is a police drama with the tremendous Stallone in the lead role as a police officer dealing with homicidal scum bags.

Dude, I was accused earlier by Eric the Stoopid and our beloved Ray of watching too much TeeVee, movies and shit.
Thanks for obliging them with proof that it's YOUR team! :D
 
The reports ive seen said Tamir reached for the gun when they pulled up. Do you think cops go around shooting unarmed people at random?

As you can see in the video, he was walking and moving his hands like everyone does when they walk. Of course, those cops will say he was reaching for something.

And if he wasn't, do you think a cop would risk being charged and going to prison if he didn't have a weapon? Do you know how other prisoners treat former police officers in jail?
 
Post the segment where they did anything even mildly resembling what happened here.

You mean immediately get out of the car and shoot? No problem:

Pretending that situation was even REMOTELY similar is disingenuous as hell.

Why? The cops were chasing an armed burglary suspect. As soon as the car was stoppled, the officers exited the car and shot; not sit in the car and order him out of the vehicle over their PA system.
 
Post the segment where they did anything even mildly resembling what happened here.

You mean immediately get out of the car and shoot? No problem:

Pretending that situation was even REMOTELY similar is disingenuous as hell.

Why? The cops were chasing an armed burglary suspect. As soon as the car was stoppled, the officers exited the car and shot; not sit in the car and order him out of the vehicle over their PA system.

So the 12 year old with a toy gun was an armed burglary suspect? Just please STOP!
 

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