NO! Homosexuality IS NOT NORMAL

There are many things not specifically addressed in the Bible but, if you are a Christian, you can know what are sins based on what the Bible says, like homosexuality being an abomination to God. The scriptures in the Old and New Testament are enough for any Christian to understand this, and, anyone that doesn't is just mis-interpreting scripture and twisting it to fit their own beliefs (which is also a sin).

You nor anyone else has to believe me or agree with me. But I'm 100% certain on this.

Slave owners, segregationists and anti miscegenationists were all as sure of their bible verses as you are.
And Bible thumpers led the Abolitionist Movement.

Yep- Christians led both the abolition movement- and promoted slavery.

In both cases citing the Bible.

Satan himself has cited the Bible. In fact, he did it directly to Jesus.

Your point?

My point is that Christians not only disagree on what the Bible says- they disagreed on what the Bible said on an issue of such importance as Slavery.

Which is why when someone tells me that they know what God wants- I point out that every Christian Slave owner thought they knew what God wanted also.

There is an absolute truth out there, however. People will misinterpret and misuse the Bible.
Just because some were wrong doesn't mean ALL were wrong.
Discernment, prayer, knowledge and wisdom all come into play.
 
Normal or not boys, it's natural BTW, they are your equals.
Correct. God loves everyone., but only those that accept Jesus as Lord and Savior are saved. Homosexuality is a sin as is sex outside of marriage. God does not recognize homosexual marriage vows

How do you know that God does not recognize homosexual marriage vows?
While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. It is clear, however, that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Lev 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent. I Cor 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful.

Whenever the Bible mentions marriage, it is between male and female.
Funny thing about hetero marriage is that most of them fail. And divorce is a sin too. God even says he hates it. Maybe that makes it an abomination like homosexuality?

The day that Christians stop thinking they are so much better than homosexuals will be a day of progress.

Yeah- I have yet to figure out how a gay couple' marriage is any different than Newt Gingrich 4th marriage is when it comes to 'following the Bible'.


The difference is, Christ explicitly condemns divorce.
 
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Name some who bond for life besides a certain giraffe. I am talking mammals as well. Not fish or birds.

Why not birds? They are vertebrates.

1 500 animal species practice homosexuality

Name some who bond for life besides a certain giraffe. I am talking mammals as well. Not fish or birds.

Why not birds? They are vertebrates.

1 500 animal species practice homosexuality

According to whom, who has been monitoring these animals, fish etc. This article has political bias.

Scientists. Try the link.

Here are a bunch of links

  1. Old faithful | 11 animals that mate for life | MNN - Mother ...
    Enviromental News and Information MNN - Mother Nature Network › Earth Matters › Animals
    Humans like to think of themselves as faithful, but when it comes to true fidelity, many other species offer a better example of how to keep a relationship toge.
  2. 12 Animals That Mate For Life - Pets Tips & Advice | mom.me
    mom.me/pets/19108-animals-mate-life/
    Apr 23, 2015 - Remember in that episode of "Friends" when Phoebe tells Ross that Rachel is his "lobster," because lobsters fall in love and mate for life?
  3. Love for Life? 12 Animals That Are (Mostly) Monogamous ...
    Science News Articles and Information - Scientific American › ... › Slide Shows
    Scientific American
    Swans swimming beak to beak have become a common symbol of mate-for-lifededication. The males often help in nest-building and egg-incubating, and pairs ...
  4. 6 Animals that Mate for Life : Wildlife Promise
    blog.nwf.org/.../6-animals-that-mate-for-life...
    National Wildlife Federation
    6 Animals that Mate for Life. 4 2/10/2015 // By Courtney Hyde. Valentine's Day has arrived again! For some, this means the traditional sentimental card, flowers, ...
  5. A List of Animals That Mate for Life - See Who Made the List!
    A List of Animals That Mate for Life - See Who Made the List animals-that-mate-for-life/
    May 8, 2011 - Did you know that many animals mate for life? Just to name a few: wolves, termites, beavers, pigeons and swans. OR... is it all just a myth?
  6. 33 Animals That Mate For Life | Symbols of Love
    Symbolic Meanings - A Guide for Signs Symbols and Totemsanimals-that-mate-for-life.html
    Animals that mate for life Love is in the air and these animals symbolize and inspire true everlasting love, soulmates and being "all in" for the long haul.
  7. 10 Monogamous Animals That Mate For Life | Curiosity ...
    CuriosityAroused.com - Strange News Interesting Facts Current Events In Scienceanimals-that-mate-for-lif...
    Many animals are serially monogamous, meaning they pair up with one partner at a time to ... Here are 10 monogamous animals which actually mate for life.
  8. 11 Animals That Mate for Life - Proof That Marriage is Natural
    Inspirational Stories to Lift Your Day - GodVineanimal-mates-293.html
    They claim that animals don't mate for life and that monogamy isn't natural for us. God told us that marriage is a sacred vow between a man and woman... and it ...
  9. Looking for love: 12 animals that mate for life - Slideshows ...
    www.today.com/.../looking-for-love-12-animals-that-mate-for-life...
    Today
    Explore the slideshow 'Looking for love: 12 animals that mate for life' on TODAY.com.

I see they have done their homework to make the case for homosexuality! Now since you are referring to homosexuals to animals, fine, I normally call rapist, killers and pedophiles animals, but I guess we all have our own definition of what we consider animal.

How in the world do we describe Jenner who is becoming a female but will continue to have female relationships? A transgender lesian I guess.

I have a much easier time with children who at the age of 7ish are shown more traits of the opposite sex of the body they house, as there are studies done to show hormonal issues. I guess what we have now are homosexuals who never had sexual changes, is that right, as most say they are born that way. Shall we agree with say Iran who then force one of the homosexuals into a sex change.

I mean something is off physically or emotionally which is the cause of homosexuality. For some they just tried the lifestyle and liked it and for others they were forced into it due to needing money for drugs.

I imagine if one thought homosexuality was normal, say if I had two gay parents who hug out with other gays parents, (I believe birds of a feather flock together as a rule , although they also have acquaintances with heterosexual people and couples) I may think that normal is homosexuality. We all know children believe for life what they mainly learn before the age of 10 and their experience before the age of 10, environment stays with them.

So I guess we can agree homosexuals are like some animals except they wear clothes.

First off I don't have to justify or apologize for the fact that homosexuality occurs in nature and that it is genetic and probably serves a role in the evolutionary process.

Homosexuality is not a choice. Gender dysphoria and homosexuality are two very different things. Bruce Jenner a Republican did not choose it. He battled it and it was hell for him but had he been born in a decent society he would have easily traded his Olympic fame and fortune to be born in the right body.

Homosexuality is not a lifestyle choice because in this sick and evil Christian society nobody would choose it.
 
Have any of you seen the movie the "Normal Heart"? All that did was put homosexuality in a bad light. I had a hard time watching it. I have worked with a gay man who was in a long term relationship and went off to Canada and got married. This person became a good acquaintance, but he was not masculine but rather effeminate.


According to whom, who has been monitoring these animals, fish etc. This article has political bias.

Scientists. Try the link.

Here are a bunch of links

  1. Old faithful | 11 animals that mate for life | MNN - Mother ...
    Enviromental News and Information MNN - Mother Nature Network › Earth Matters › Animals
    Humans like to think of themselves as faithful, but when it comes to true fidelity, many other species offer a better example of how to keep a relationship toge.
  2. 12 Animals That Mate For Life - Pets Tips & Advice | mom.me
    mom.me/pets/19108-animals-mate-life/
    Apr 23, 2015 - Remember in that episode of "Friends" when Phoebe tells Ross that Rachel is his "lobster," because lobsters fall in love and mate for life?
  3. Love for Life? 12 Animals That Are (Mostly) Monogamous ...
    Science News Articles and Information - Scientific American › ... › Slide Shows
    Scientific American
    Swans swimming beak to beak have become a common symbol of mate-for-lifededication. The males often help in nest-building and egg-incubating, and pairs ...
  4. 6 Animals that Mate for Life : Wildlife Promise
    blog.nwf.org/.../6-animals-that-mate-for-life...
    National Wildlife Federation
    6 Animals that Mate for Life. 4 2/10/2015 // By Courtney Hyde. Valentine's Day has arrived again! For some, this means the traditional sentimental card, flowers, ...
  5. A List of Animals That Mate for Life - See Who Made the List!
    A List of Animals That Mate for Life - See Who Made the List animals-that-mate-for-life/
    May 8, 2011 - Did you know that many animals mate for life? Just to name a few: wolves, termites, beavers, pigeons and swans. OR... is it all just a myth?
  6. 33 Animals That Mate For Life | Symbols of Love
    Symbolic Meanings - A Guide for Signs Symbols and Totemsanimals-that-mate-for-life.html
    Animals that mate for life Love is in the air and these animals symbolize and inspire true everlasting love, soulmates and being "all in" for the long haul.
  7. 10 Monogamous Animals That Mate For Life | Curiosity ...
    CuriosityAroused.com - Strange News Interesting Facts Current Events In Scienceanimals-that-mate-for-lif...
    Many animals are serially monogamous, meaning they pair up with one partner at a time to ... Here are 10 monogamous animals which actually mate for life.
  8. 11 Animals That Mate for Life - Proof That Marriage is Natural
    Inspirational Stories to Lift Your Day - GodVineanimal-mates-293.html
    They claim that animals don't mate for life and that monogamy isn't natural for us. God told us that marriage is a sacred vow between a man and woman... and it ...
  9. Looking for love: 12 animals that mate for life - Slideshows ...
    www.today.com/.../looking-for-love-12-animals-that-mate-for-life...
    Today
    Explore the slideshow 'Looking for love: 12 animals that mate for life' on TODAY.com.

I see they have done their homework to make the case for homosexuality! Now since you are referring to homosexuals to animals, fine, I normally call rapist, killers and pedophiles animals, but I guess we all have our own definition of what we consider animal.

How in the world do we describe Jenner who is becoming a female but will continue to have female relationships? A transgender lesian I guess.

I have a much easier time with children who at the age of 7ish are shown more traits of the opposite sex of the body they house, as there are studies done to show hormonal issues. I guess what we have now are homosexuals who never had sexual changes, is that right, as most say they are born that way. Shall we agree with say Iran who then force one of the homosexuals into a sex change.

I mean something is off physically or emotionally which is the cause of homosexuality. For some they just tried the lifestyle and liked it and for others they were forced into it due to needing money for drugs.

I imagine if one thought homosexuality was normal, say if I had two gay parents who hug out with other gays parents, (I believe birds of a feather flock together as a rule , although they also have acquaintances with heterosexual people and couples) I may think that normal is homosexuality. We all know children believe for life what they mainly learn before the age of 10 and their experience before the age of 10, environment stays with them.

So I guess we can agree homosexuals are like some animals except they wear clothes.

First off I don't have to justify or apologize for the fact that homosexuality occurs in nature and that it is genetic and probably serves a role in the evolutionary process.

Homosexuality is not a choice. Gender dysphoria and homosexuality are two very different things. Bruce Jenner a Republican did not choose it. He battled it and it was hell for him but had he been born in a decent society he would have easily traded his Olympic fame and fortune to be born in the right body.

Homosexuality is not a lifestyle choice because in this sick and evil Christian society nobody would choose it.

Right, so now he can be a lesbian. Gender dysphoria can be genetic and when you can say Jesus was real and the son of God I will say homosexuals were born that way. Brainwashing is a funny thing. Pedophiles were born pedophiles, rapist born rapist and murderers were born murderers as some animals actually do kill without eating their prey.
 
Just because you can't handle the logic doesn't mean anyone is whining besides you.
No one expected homo marriage to be made legal, either. Now that is has, the barn door is open.

What do you mean, "No one expected it". The argument has been made for the last 20 years.

And after the argument was made, you guys couldn't come up wiht any better arguments than, "Slippery Slope to things no one was talking about", "My Magic Fairy in the Sky says it's bad" and "I think it's icky when it's two dudes, but I got shitloads of porn of two chicks!"

None of these were good arguments, which is why you lost.

Now, if you want to go out and make an argument as to why the incest laws should be overturned in spite of solid scientific evidence why they are probably good ideas... have at it, buddy!
 
Just because you can't handle the logic doesn't mean anyone is whining besides you.
No one expected homo marriage to be made legal, either. Now that is has, the barn door is open.

What do you mean, "No one expected it". The argument has been made for the last 20 years.

And after the argument was made, you guys couldn't come up wiht any better arguments than, "Slippery Slope to things no one was talking about", "My Magic Fairy in the Sky says it's bad" and "I think it's icky when it's two dudes, but I got shitloads of porn of two chicks!"

None of these were good arguments, which is why you lost.

Now, if you want to go out and make an argument as to why the incest laws should be overturned in spite of solid scientific evidence why they are probably good ideas... have at it, buddy!
I'm over 20. The idea of homo marriage was as far-fetched as bestialty marriage is now. Actually moreso because homo marriage has now opened the floodgates.
 
I'm over 20. The idea of homo marriage was as far-fetched as bestialty marriage is now. Actually moreso because homo marriage has now opened the floodgates.

Really, you act like you are about 15.

I'm not sure what universe you live in. 11 years ago, Massachusetts legalized gay marriage and there weren't Nazis riding Dinosaurs as a result.

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I'm over 20. The idea of homo marriage was as far-fetched as bestialty marriage is now. Actually moreso because homo marriage has now opened the floodgates.

Really, you act like you are about 15.

I'm not sure what universe you live in. 11 years ago, Massachusetts legalized gay marriage and there weren't Nazis riding Dinosaurs as a result.

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Another troll post. Off to the troll bin with you.
 
Correct. God loves everyone., but only those that accept Jesus as Lord and Savior are saved. Homosexuality is a sin as is sex outside of marriage. God does not recognize homosexual marriage vows

How do you know that God does not recognize homosexual marriage vows?
While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. It is clear, however, that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Lev 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent. I Cor 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful.

Whenever the Bible mentions marriage, it is between male and female.
Funny thing about hetero marriage is that most of them fail. And divorce is a sin too. God even says he hates it. Maybe that makes it an abomination like homosexuality?

The day that Christians stop thinking they are so much better than homosexuals will be a day of progress.

Yeah- I have yet to figure out how a gay couple' marriage is any different than Newt Gingrich 4th marriage is when it comes to 'following the Bible'.


The difference is, Christ explicitly condemns divorce.

Because He was asked about it. There are many sins Jesus did not speak about / address in the Bible.
 
Six years older than you act. Maybe one day you will grow up and realize that all your lying makes you look really stupid.

Yawn, guy... I'm sorry about all the butthurt I inflict on you, but maybe if you did your research before putting fingers to key board, that wouldn't happen.

subtracting points for use of term "butthurt".....
 
How do you know that God does not recognize homosexual marriage vows?
While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. It is clear, however, that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Lev 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent. I Cor 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful.

Whenever the Bible mentions marriage, it is between male and female.
Funny thing about hetero marriage is that most of them fail. And divorce is a sin too. God even says he hates it. Maybe that makes it an abomination like homosexuality?

The day that Christians stop thinking they are so much better than homosexuals will be a day of progress.

Yeah- I have yet to figure out how a gay couple' marriage is any different than Newt Gingrich 4th marriage is when it comes to 'following the Bible'.


The difference is, Christ explicitly condemns divorce.

Because He was asked about it. There are many sins Jesus did not speak about / address in the Bible.

Regardless, you thus concede that many 'Christian' beliefs are wholly the inventions of Men with no evidence whatsoever to demonstrate they are any part of any divine instruction?
 
While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. It is clear, however, that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Lev 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent. I Cor 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful.

Whenever the Bible mentions marriage, it is between male and female.
Funny thing about hetero marriage is that most of them fail. And divorce is a sin too. God even says he hates it. Maybe that makes it an abomination like homosexuality?

The day that Christians stop thinking they are so much better than homosexuals will be a day of progress.

Yeah- I have yet to figure out how a gay couple' marriage is any different than Newt Gingrich 4th marriage is when it comes to 'following the Bible'.


The difference is, Christ explicitly condemns divorce.

Because He was asked about it. There are many sins Jesus did not speak about / address in the Bible.

Regardless, you thus concede that many 'Christian' beliefs are wholly the inventions of Men with no evidence whatsoever to demonstrate they are any part of any divine instruction?

I'm not a theologian. I think certain people/men make things up, but, the Bible is inerrant and true.

To properly understand and to live by it requires relationship with God, and, over your Christian life, you begin to learn and understand more about your heavenly Father. God's instruction is revealed to you.

That being said, there are wolves in sheep's clothing, but when God is reaching out to you, He gives you discernment to be able to distinguish between lies and Truth.

God is not surprised. His will be done.
 
Funny thing about hetero marriage is that most of them fail. And divorce is a sin too. God even says he hates it. Maybe that makes it an abomination like homosexuality?

The day that Christians stop thinking they are so much better than homosexuals will be a day of progress.

Yeah- I have yet to figure out how a gay couple' marriage is any different than Newt Gingrich 4th marriage is when it comes to 'following the Bible'.


The difference is, Christ explicitly condemns divorce.

Because He was asked about it. There are many sins Jesus did not speak about / address in the Bible.

Regardless, you thus concede that many 'Christian' beliefs are wholly the inventions of Men with no evidence whatsoever to demonstrate they are any part of any divine instruction?

I'm not a theologian. I think certain people/men make things up, but, the Bible is inerrant and true.

To properly understand and to live by it requires relationship with God, and, over your Christian life, you begin to learn and understand more about your heavenly Father. God's instruction is revealed to you.

That being said, there are wolves in sheep's clothing, but when God is reaching out to you, He gives you discernment to be able to distinguish between lies and Truth.

God is not surprised. His will be done.

Thanks for nothing.
 
I see they have done their homework to make the case for homosexuality! Now since you are referring to homosexuals to animals, fine, I normally call rapist, killers and pedophiles animals, but I guess we all have our own definition of what we consider animal.

Are you sure you're not bisexual? You seem to want to have it both ways. You can't play the "it ain't natchrul" card and then, when shown that homosexuality is found quite extensively in nature, play the "humans ain't animals" card.

How in the world do we describe Jenner who is becoming a female but will continue to have female relationships? A transgender lesian I guess.

You're confusing gender disphoria with sexual orientation. They are two different things. I happen to know two lesbians who are married. One of them was once a man just like Caitlin.

I have a much easier time with children who at the age of 7ish are shown more traits of the opposite sex of the body they house, as there are studies done to show hormonal issues. I guess what we have now are homosexuals who never had sexual changes, is that right, as most say they are born that way. Shall we agree with say Iran who then force one of the homosexuals into a sex change.

How about we just let folks be? I don't want to be a man. I'm quite happy being a lesbian woman, thanks. The only time I've ever wanted a penis is when camping.

I mean something is off physically or emotionally which is the cause of homosexuality. For some they just tried the lifestyle and liked it and for others they were forced into it due to needing money for drugs.

Thanks for your opinion. Like assholes, everyone has one and most stink. Yours needs...

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I imagine if one thought homosexuality was normal, say if I had two gay parents who hug out with other gays parents, (I believe birds of a feather flock together as a rule , although they also have acquaintances with heterosexual people and couples) I may think that normal is homosexuality. We all know children believe for life what they mainly learn before the age of 10 and their experience before the age of 10, environment stays with them.

What? I'm sorry, you'll have to try that paragraph again in English. I had straight parents. My children are both straight.

So I guess we can agree homosexuals are like some animals except they wear clothes.

Humans are mammals, gay and straight. Most animals are heterosexual like you. Some are gay like me. Human animals too.
 
I see they have done their homework to make the case for homosexuality! Now since you are referring to homosexuals to animals, fine, I normally call rapist, killers and pedophiles animals, but I guess we all have our own definition of what we consider animal.

Are you sure you're not bisexual? You seem to want to have it both ways. You can't play the "it ain't natchrul" card and then, when shown that homosexuality is found quite extensively in nature, play the "humans ain't animals" card.

How in the world do we describe Jenner who is becoming a female but will continue to have female relationships? A transgender lesian I guess.

You're confusing gender disphoria with sexual orientation. They are two different things. I happen to know two lesbians who are married. One of them was once a man just like Caitlin.

I have a much easier time with children who at the age of 7ish are shown more traits of the opposite sex of the body they house, as there are studies done to show hormonal issues. I guess what we have now are homosexuals who never had sexual changes, is that right, as most say they are born that way. Shall we agree with say Iran who then force one of the homosexuals into a sex change.

How about we just let folks be? I don't want to be a man. I'm quite happy being a lesbian woman, thanks. The only time I've ever wanted a penis is when camping.

I mean something is off physically or emotionally which is the cause of homosexuality. For some they just tried the lifestyle and liked it and for others they were forced into it due to needing money for drugs.

Thanks for your opinion. Like assholes, everyone has one and most stink. Yours needs...

sphincterine-ft.jpg


I imagine if one thought homosexuality was normal, say if I had two gay parents who hug out with other gays parents, (I believe birds of a feather flock together as a rule , although they also have acquaintances with heterosexual people and couples) I may think that normal is homosexuality. We all know children believe for life what they mainly learn before the age of 10 and their experience before the age of 10, environment stays with them.

What? I'm sorry, you'll have to try that paragraph again in English. I had straight parents. My children are both straight.

So I guess we can agree homosexuals are like some animals except they wear clothes.

Humans are mammals, gay and straight. Most animals are heterosexual like you. Some are gay like me. Human animals too.

No I'm not confusing anything. You have made a life choice or was influenced by your early environment.
 

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