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This article does a good job exposing the spin that Romney and Obama have said about ObamaCare. If you disagree with any of these facts, then I ask you to provide non partisan sources that directly contradict the facts presented in this article.
Obama, Romney, 'Obamacare' and the Facts - NationalJournal.com
This article does a good job exposing the spin that Romney and Obama have said about ObamaCare. If you disagree with any of these facts, then I ask you to provide non partisan sources that directly contradict the facts presented in this article.
Obama, Romney, 'Obamacare' and the Facts - NationalJournal.com
This article does a good job exposing the spin that Romney and Obama have said about ObamaCare. If you disagree with any of these facts, then I ask you to provide non partisan sources that directly contradict the facts presented in this article.
Obama, Romney, 'Obamacare' and the Facts - NationalJournal.com
NOW YOU asked for a disagreement with your "source" i.e. FACTCHECK.org
The organization is a front-group for Leftwing causes and has ties to domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and his political protege Barack Obama.
In 2008 prior to the Presidential election, writer Stanley Kurtz uncovered troubling information concerning Factcheck, Bill Ayers, and Barack Obama:
"When Obama made his first run for political office, articles in both the Chicago DefenderHyde Park Heraldfeatured among his qualifications his position as chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation where Ayers was a founder and guiding force. and the Obama assumed the Annenberg board chairmanship only months before his first run for office, and almost certainly received the job at the behest of Bill Ayers. During Obama's time as Annenberg board chairman, Ayers's own education projects received substantial funding. Indeed, during its first year, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge struggled with significant concerns about possible conflicts of interest. With a writ to aid Chicago'spublic schools, the Annenberg challenge played a deeply political role in Chicago's education wars, and as Annenberg board chairman, Obama clearly aligned himself with Ayers's radical views on education issues. With Obama heading up the board and Ayers heading up the other key operating body of the Annenberg Challenge, the two would necessarily have had a close working relationship for years (therefore "exchanging ideas on a regular basis")."
Factcheck.org--anything but factual - National Conservative | Examiner.com
2nd...
Let's start off BEFORE Obamacare with Obama saying:"We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children,"
46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number : NPR
There have NEVER BEEN 46 million uninsured legal Americans, who already had coverage OR who could afford but didn't WANT health insurance!
A) He counts 18 million people THAT DON"T want health insurance. They are under 34.
They earn over $50,000 and turn down their employers' health plans BECAUSE they spend less then $1,000 a year. So why are they being penalized for NOT wanting to have it... Yet Obama counts them and that is totally unfair, a lie and wrong!
Source: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
B) 14 million people counted as "uninsured" all they need to do is register. Enroll. And they are covered by Medicaid!
Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association contracted with the Actuarial Research Corporation (ARC) to provide a detailed analysis
of the uninsured identified by the Census Bureau, which found:
Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State
Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.
Source: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
C) So 32 million don't want and are already covered. That leaves 14 million..except according to the Census
10 million are not legal!
source:Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
That leaves 4 million that truly need and WANT health insurance but NOT 46 million which was used to pass by only 6 votes Obamacare!
If people like you would really stop using 46 million but use 4 million that would allow this to happen!
Now for an even more confusing issue... there are according to these sources 383 million Americans covered with insurance!
- 195,900,000 in Private health insurance Health insurance coverage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- 72,600,000 covered by Medicaid: 72,600,000: Record Number on Medicaid in 2012; Outnumbers Populations of France and UK | CNS News
- 59,000,000 covered by their employers plans Down for Maintenance - Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
- 47,200,000 covered by Medicare
- 8,300,000 covered by Tricare which is the Department of Defenses health insurance for military personal and their families. TriCare Information - Military Health Care
383,000,000
So my very fundamental point is HOW CAN ACA be anything but a gigantic cluster....K if they can't even comprehend SIMPLE Numbers!
There aren't 46 million "uninsured"!
Point out where I"M WRONG!! PLEASE!!
This article does a good job exposing the spin that Romney and Obama have said about ObamaCare. If you disagree with any of these facts, then I ask you to provide non partisan sources that directly contradict the facts presented in this article.
Obama, Romney, 'Obamacare' and the Facts - NationalJournal.com
I dont even have to read that stupid article
Um, if his facts are wrong you should easily be able to refute them.This article does a good job exposing the spin that Romney and Obama have said about ObamaCare. If you disagree with any of these facts, then I ask you to provide non partisan sources that directly contradict the facts presented in this article.
Obama, Romney, 'Obamacare' and the Facts - NationalJournal.com
NOW YOU asked for a disagreement with your "source" i.e. FACTCHECK.org
The organization is a front-group for Leftwing causes and has ties to domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and his political protege Barack Obama.
In 2008 prior to the Presidential election, writer Stanley Kurtz uncovered troubling information concerning Factcheck, Bill Ayers, and Barack Obama:
"When Obama made his first run for political office, articles in both the Chicago DefenderHyde Park Heraldfeatured among his qualifications his position as chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation where Ayers was a founder and guiding force. and the Obama assumed the Annenberg board chairmanship only months before his first run for office, and almost certainly received the job at the behest of Bill Ayers. During Obama's time as Annenberg board chairman, Ayers's own education projects received substantial funding. Indeed, during its first year, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge struggled with significant concerns about possible conflicts of interest. With a writ to aid Chicago'spublic schools, the Annenberg challenge played a deeply political role in Chicago's education wars, and as Annenberg board chairman, Obama clearly aligned himself with Ayers's radical views on education issues. With Obama heading up the board and Ayers heading up the other key operating body of the Annenberg Challenge, the two would necessarily have had a close working relationship for years (therefore "exchanging ideas on a regular basis")."
Factcheck.org--anything but factual - National Conservative | Examiner.com
2nd...
Let's start off BEFORE Obamacare with Obama saying:"We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children,"
46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number : NPR
There have NEVER BEEN 46 million uninsured legal Americans, who already had coverage OR who could afford but didn't WANT health insurance!
A) He counts 18 million people THAT DON"T want health insurance. They are under 34.
They earn over $50,000 and turn down their employers' health plans BECAUSE they spend less then $1,000 a year. So why are they being penalized for NOT wanting to have it... Yet Obama counts them and that is totally unfair, a lie and wrong!
Source: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
B) 14 million people counted as "uninsured" all they need to do is register. Enroll. And they are covered by Medicaid!
Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association contracted with the Actuarial Research Corporation (ARC) to provide a detailed analysis
of the uninsured identified by the Census Bureau, which found:
Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third almost 14 million were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State
Childrens Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.
Source: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
C) So 32 million don't want and are already covered. That leaves 14 million..except according to the Census
10 million are not legal!
source:Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
That leaves 4 million that truly need and WANT health insurance but NOT 46 million which was used to pass by only 6 votes Obamacare!
If people like you would really stop using 46 million but use 4 million that would allow this to happen!
Now for an even more confusing issue... there are according to these sources 383 million Americans covered with insurance!
- 195,900,000 in Private health insurance Health insurance coverage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- 72,600,000 covered by Medicaid: 72,600,000: Record Number on Medicaid in 2012; Outnumbers Populations of France and UK | CNS News
- 59,000,000 covered by their employers plans Down for Maintenance - Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
- 47,200,000 covered by Medicare
- 8,300,000 covered by Tricare which is the Department of Defenses health insurance for military personal and their families. TriCare Information - Military Health Care
383,000,000
So my very fundamental point is HOW CAN ACA be anything but a gigantic cluster....K if they can't even comprehend SIMPLE Numbers!
There aren't 46 million "uninsured"!
Point out where I"M WRONG!! PLEASE!!
Umm, your info about factcheck is bullshit. It makes a point about a single issue. Also, you gave a conservative source.
Your second point counters nothing in the article I posted.
No one knows what the true effects of Obamacare will be Nancy Pelosi famously stated they had to pass the bill to see what was in it sadly it will have to be implemented to see what the full cost and effect of it will be.
No one knows what the true effects of Obamacare will be Nancy Pelosi famously stated they had to pass the bill to see what was in it sadly it will have to be implemented to see what the full cost and effect of it will be.
Yup and it will be one costly POS for the taxpayers.
Pelosi and her merry band didn't read the thing but had no problem passing it.
The GOP needs to pound Obmacare in the 2014 election cycle. The Dems passed that POS without one GOP vote. Voters need to be reminded of that when the cost of Obamacar hits em in the chops.
This article does a good job exposing the spin that Romney and Obama have said about ObamaCare. If you disagree with any of these facts, then I ask you to provide non partisan sources that directly contradict the facts presented in this article.
Obama, Romney, 'Obamacare' and the Facts - NationalJournal.com
NOW YOU asked for a disagreement with your "source" i.e. FACTCHECK.org
The organization is a front-group for Leftwing causes and has ties to domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and his political protege Barack Obama.
In 2008 prior to the Presidential election, writer Stanley Kurtz uncovered troubling information concerning Factcheck, Bill Ayers, and Barack Obama:
"When Obama made his first run for political office, articles in both the Chicago DefenderHyde Park Heraldfeatured among his qualifications his position as chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation where Ayers was a founder and guiding force. and the Obama assumed the Annenberg board chairmanship only months before his first run for office, and almost certainly received the job at the behest of Bill Ayers. During Obama's time as Annenberg board chairman, Ayers's own education projects received substantial funding. Indeed, during its first year, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge struggled with significant concerns about possible conflicts of interest. With a writ to aid Chicago'spublic schools, the Annenberg challenge played a deeply political role in Chicago's education wars, and as Annenberg board chairman, Obama clearly aligned himself with Ayers's radical views on education issues. With Obama heading up the board and Ayers heading up the other key operating body of the Annenberg Challenge, the two would necessarily have had a close working relationship for years (therefore "exchanging ideas on a regular basis")."
Factcheck.org--anything but factual - National Conservative | Examiner.com
2nd...
Let's start off BEFORE Obamacare with Obama saying:"We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children,"
46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number : NPR
There have NEVER BEEN 46 million uninsured legal Americans, who already had coverage OR who could afford but didn't WANT health insurance!
A) He counts 18 million people THAT DON"T want health insurance. They are under 34.
They earn over $50,000 and turn down their employers' health plans BECAUSE they spend less then $1,000 a year. So why are they being penalized for NOT wanting to have it... Yet Obama counts them and that is totally unfair, a lie and wrong!
Source: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
B) 14 million people counted as "uninsured" all they need to do is register. Enroll. And they are covered by Medicaid!
Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association contracted with the Actuarial Research Corporation (ARC) to provide a detailed analysis
of the uninsured identified by the Census Bureau, which found:
Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third almost 14 million were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State
Childrens Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.
Source: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
C) So 32 million don't want and are already covered. That leaves 14 million..except according to the Census
10 million are not legal!
source:Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
That leaves 4 million that truly need and WANT health insurance but NOT 46 million which was used to pass by only 6 votes Obamacare!
If people like you would really stop using 46 million but use 4 million that would allow this to happen!
Now for an even more confusing issue... there are according to these sources 383 million Americans covered with insurance!
- 195,900,000 in Private health insurance Health insurance coverage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- 72,600,000 covered by Medicaid: 72,600,000: Record Number on Medicaid in 2012; Outnumbers Populations of France and UK | CNS News
- 59,000,000 covered by their employers plans Down for Maintenance - Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
- 47,200,000 covered by Medicare
- 8,300,000 covered by Tricare which is the Department of Defenses health insurance for military personal and their families. TriCare Information - Military Health Care
383,000,000
So my very fundamental point is HOW CAN ACA be anything but a gigantic cluster....K if they can't even comprehend SIMPLE Numbers!
There aren't 46 million "uninsured"!
Point out where I"M WRONG!! PLEASE!!
Umm, your info about factcheck is bullshit. It makes a point about a single issue. Also, you gave a conservative source.
Your second point counters nothing in the article I posted.
