Attorney on Trump jury: ".. the facts that may well not add up to a criminal violation"

[OldFlame]

correct, they do not.

And neither do Repubs. one cannot be a partisan drone like you and have values.

Spare us your bullshit, you don't give a fuck about the D's corruption, you back it every day on here.

 

[WorldWatcher]

makes no sense.. The case had little if anything to do with Daniels, this I know...

but you apparently do not

That's because you are incorrect:

• Trump boinked Daniels in 2006
• Daniels released the story to the press in 2011, but not much interest
• Trump runs for President in 2015
• Trump, Cohen, Pecker meet in Trump Tower to hatch "Catch and Kill" conspiracy
• Bush "Grab'em by he Vagina" tape released in October 2016
• Daniels shops sexual encounter story among media outlets
• Pecker hears about story and contacts campaign
• Cohen contacts Daniels lawyer
• Cohen takes out home loan
• Cohen pays Daniels for the campaign
• Later Cohen is charged and convicted with federal campaign finance fraud
• Trump charged with laundering reimbursement for Cohen through his business
• Trump defense makes an issue at trial that sexual encounter never happed in opening remarks
• Prosecution calls Daniels to testify for the jury to weigh credibility

Seems like the jury accepted the credibility of a porn start over Trump.

Someone is lacking information and it's not me.

WW

 

[Foxfyre]

Very solid. He wrote a great brief defending Bush's warrantless wiretapping program. And he helped write the defense for the torture of prisoners at Gitmo. how much better can you get that that?

Post your evidence.

 

[Foxfyre]

Yes, and a terrorist as well. He was a student of Antonio Gramsci. His stuff wasn't original.

Don't know about that. But you could be right.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Post your evidence.

John Choon Yoo (Korean: 유준; born July 10, 1967)[2] is a South Korean-born American legal scholar and former government official who serves as the Emanuel S. Heller Professor of Law at the University of California, Berkeley. Yoo became known for his legal opinions concerning executive power, warrantless wiretapping, and the Geneva Conventions while serving in the George W. Bush administration, during which he was the author of the controversial "Torture Memos" in the War on Terror.

John Yoo - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[excalibur]

I never thought I'd see this in America....

We must destroy America to save democracy.

We already see them doing this in Ukraine, where Biden et al are fully behind no elections there until the war ends. 'Muh, democracy'.

 

[Foxfyre]

John Choon Yoo (Korean: 유준; born July 10, 1967)[2] is a South Korean-born American legal scholar and former government official who serves as the Emanuel S. Heller Professor of Law at the University of California, Berkeley. Yoo became known for his legal opinions concerning executive power, warrantless wiretapping, and the Geneva Conventions while serving in the George W. Bush administration, during which he was the author of the controversial "Torture Memos" in the War on Terror.

John Yoo - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Those who use Wikipedia as a credible source don't know how Wikipedia works or how easily it can be manipulated to say whatever you want it to say.

However, yes, John Yoo did write a legal opinion re interrogation of terrorists at GITMO which, after he was accused of misconduct for his opinion, the Justice Department dismissed as not true. Yoo was not in the position of power enforcing anything and a valid legal opinion is not misconduct in any way.

You leftists really need to learn how to discern between opinion and action.

 

[forkintheroad7]

That's because you are incorrect:

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Those who use Wikipedia as a credible source don't know how Wikipedia works or how easily it can be manipulated to say whatever you want it to say.

However, yes, John Yoo did write a legal opinion re interrogation of terrorists at GITMO which, after he was accused of misconduct for his opinion, the Justice Department dismissed as not true. Yoo was not in the position of power enforcing anything and a valid legal opinion is not misconduct in any way.

You leftists really need to learn how to discern between opinion and action.

Just continue to wallow in your ignorance, it suits you well.

I do not even know why I bother.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Those who use Wikipedia as a credible source don't know how Wikipedia works or how easily it can be manipulated to say whatever you want it to say.

However, yes, John Yoo did write a legal opinion re interrogation of terrorists at GITMO which, after he was accused of misconduct for his opinion, the Justice Department dismissed as not true. Yoo was not in the position of power enforcing anything and a valid legal opinion is not misconduct in any way.

You leftists really need to learn how to discern between opinion and action.

they need to get lost. I hear Elon Musk has some plan to take people to the moon

Maybe all the liberals could go there and the space ship would conveniently not be able to return..c on

LOL

Just continue to wallow in your ignorance, it suits you well.

I do not even know why I bother.

Do you know what this means?

 

[eagle1462010]

yet, the felon was convicted.

if you were the judge in this case, trying to deliver a fair sentence, do you take into account the constant contempt of court, gag order violations, death threats and other trumian chaos?

or do you take the high road and give him the same sentence bernie maddow got on the same crime?

Quote the Felonies used for the 34 misdomeaners???

 

[forkintheroad7]

Yes, and a terrorist as well. He was a student of Antonio Gramsci. His stuff wasn't original.

figures... totally

 

[OldFlame]

Just continue to wallow in your ignorance, it suits you well.

I do not even know why I bother.

You should definitely keep your damn mouth shut, everyone would be better off.

She has more intelligence, integrity, honesty, and morality in her little pinky than you'll ever hope to have. Old, self-loving, arrogant asshole's like you are a dime a dozen.

 

[OldFlame]

That's because you are incorrect:

• Trump boinked Daniels in 2006
• Daniels released the story to the press in 2011, but not much interest
• Trump runs for President in 2015
• Trump, Cohen, Pecker meet in Trump Tower to hatch "Catch and Kill" conspiracy
• Bush "Grab'em by he Vagina" tape released in October 2016
• Daniels shops sexual encounter story among media outlets
• Pecker hears about story and contacts campaign
• Cohen contacts Daniels lawyer
• Cohen takes out home loan
• Cohen pays Daniels for the campaign
• Later Cohen is charged and convicted with federal campaign finance fraud
• Trump charged with laundering reimbursement for Cohen through his business
• Trump defense makes an issue at trial that sexual encounter never happed in opening remarks
• Prosecution calls Daniels to testify for the jury to weigh credibility

Seems like the jury accepted the credibility of a porn start over Trump.

Someone is lacking information and it's not me.

WW

• Cohen pays Daniels for the campaign
• Later Cohen is charged and convicted with federal campaign finance fraud
• Trump charged with laundering reimbursement for Cohen through his business
• Trump defense makes an issue at trial that sexual encounter never happed in opening remarks
• Prosecution calls Daniels to testify for the jury to weigh credibility

One little problem with your 'saga', Cohen was charged, not Trump, if they could have charged Trump back then they absolutely would have, but they did not, even having Cohen's balls in a vice they couldn't get what they needed on Trump. Why would Trump make 'bookkeeping errors' to protect Cohen, obviously they didn't even protect him, since he was charged and convicted. Your whole saga is made up bullshit that makes absolutely no sense, anyone with common sense and even a modicum of legal knowledge knows the entire bullshit 'trial' was a sham. Only fools like you and your fellow leftists, who are filled with rabid hate, beleive any of it.

 

[WorldWatcher]

• Cohen pays Daniels for the campaign
• Later Cohen is charged and convicted with federal campaign finance fraud
• Trump charged with laundering reimbursement for Cohen through his business
• Trump defense makes an issue at trial that sexual encounter never happed in opening remarks
• Prosecution calls Daniels to testify for the jury to weigh credibility

One little problem with your 'saga', Cohen was charged, not Trump, if they could have charged Trump back then they absolutely would have, but they did not, even having Cohen's balls in a vice they couldn't get what they needed on Trump. Why would Trump make 'bookkeeping errors' to protect Cohen, obviously they didn't even protect him, since he was charged and convicted. Your whole saga is made up bullshit that makes absolutely no sense, anyone with common sense and even a modicum of legal knowledge knows the entire bullshit 'trial' was a sham. Only fools like you and your fellow leftists, who are filled with rabid hate, beleive any of it.

One little problem with your "sage".

The evidence was I summarized is what was presented in court to the jury and the jury found him guilty.

Trump wasn't charged with the crime Cohen committed, covering up (i.e. concealing) Cohen's crime via falsification of his business records was Trump's crime.

WW

 

[OldFlame]

One little problem with your "sage".

The evidence was I summarized is what was presented in court to the jury and the jury found him guilty.

Trump wasn't charged with the crime Cohen committed, covering up (i.e. concealing) Cohen's crime via falsification of his business records was Trump's crime.

WW

I know exactly what they were trying to do. As I said, there is no rhyme or reason as to why Trump would try to cover Cohen's crimes, Trump wasn't implicated or indicted whenever Cohen was, they had nothing on him. And apparently it didn't 'cover' anything since Cohen was tried and convicted, and they couldn't tie Trump to any of it. All they have is manufactured bullshit that will be thrown out on appeal, the corruption stinks, they wallow in it, as do you.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I know exactly what they were trying to do. As I said, there is no rhyme or reason as to why Trump would try to cover Cohen's crimes, Trump wasn't implicated or indicted whenever Cohen was, they had nothing on him. And apparently it didn't 'cover' anything since Cohen was tried and convicted, and they couldn't tie Trump to any of it. All they have is manufactured bullshit that will be thrown out on appeal, the corruption stinks, they wallow in it, as do you.

It's always nice when you discuss facts and reduce the opposing debater to name calling.

WW