Zone1 Noah's Ark

[DukeU]

Just a human.

Who are you, that you think you have been divined Infallible truth that has been denied to me?

It appears just one of us has an awfully inflated view of himself. That would be you.

The truth hasn't been denied to you, it is you who deny truth.

Big difference.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The truth hasn't been denied to you, it is you who deny truth.

Big difference.

Thank you, Shaman Duke. Now put down the dead goat and adjust the bone in your nose.

 

[kjw47]

Just a human.

Who are you, that you think you have been divined Infallible truth that has been denied to me?

It appears just one of us has an awfully inflated view of himself. That would be you.

I was taught by the ones Jesus appointed, these-Matt 24:45. I have studied since 1961, the bible, religions, history of Godly things and ungodly things.

 

[Woodznutz]

NOW - that said - if you would like to discuss "the interpretation" of the ministry of Jesus, I welcome it - for I have some very powerful opinions on the subject myself.

Me too.

 

[Woodznutz]

The holy spirit guided Gods bible writers. Moses wrote Job, Moses a righteous man approved by God. It must be you who is illiterate. Its there for all to see in the book of Job. Moses calls the earth a circle( sphere) Job 26:10-- found in Psalm150:4--Isaiah 40:22-- all 3 spots say it. As well in Job it explains how the water cycle works.
Most back then believed the earth sat on top of a huge elephant or turtle. Even false christian religions thought the earth was flat even though the bible says its a circle( sphere)
So basically calling Gods inspired bible writers-liars one is actually calling God the liar--not a wise place to be standing.

"Circle" means circuit, not sphere, referring to earths annual journey around the sun.

 

[Woodznutz]

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Now, all that's left is to understand all of this.

 

[BreezeWood]

And they had no fucking idea whatsoever why the moon had phases. Sorry.

they have the same knowledge as known today the phases of the moon, knew them by heart their vision during that time made crystal clear the shapes of the celestial planets.

you blame the victims for the flat earth than the crucifiers that would murder anyone that claimed differently, made an idiot out of galileo. they have ruled the desert from the beginning to the present day - maga.

 

[Woodznutz]

You must have missed that Gentiles are included in Gods kingdom plans. Thus spiritual Israel is Gods chosen, not literal Israel( Matt 23:38)--see if you actually knew what Jesus teaches you would know that fact, but you remain in darkness because its your teachers who are blind guides.

God's chosen are mostly Israelites.

"I (Jesus) was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." The so-called lost tribes of the northern kingdom.

 

[Woodznutz]

God knew it was a sphere. He inspired the words of his bible.

The best biblical evidence for a spherical earth is "the earth is God's footstool", and God's throne in "the sides of the north".

The 'sides of the north' refers to the position above the earth of God's throne. Earth is God's 'footstool' which he looks down on from his throne. The 'sides of the north' refers to the northern hemisphere, not a northward heavenly direction, although if looking up from the 'sides of the north' one would be looking in a 'northerly' direction, but that direction is dictated by the earth, not by the heavens. If there were no earth, there would be no 'direction'.

The evidence of a three-dimensional earth is suggested by the term sides. A two-dimensional object, such as a flat earth, doesn't have 'sides'.

 

[BreezeWood]

God's chosen are mostly Israelites.

is that the liar moses and their false commandments, abraham and their heredity idolatry ... their fallacies exclude them so obviously as a shame for those that are equally blind to the truth.

- an israelite and not a jew are few and far between, jesus.

 

[Woodznutz]

Well, if the sun, moon and stars weren't created until the 4th day of creation, what light did they use to reckon days 1-3?

Genesis 1:14-19
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Genesis 1:5, 8, 13
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

God created the sun, moon and stars on the 4th day but that doesn't mean that He began using them to reckon the days of creation right after creating them. He obviously used another source of light on days 1-3 before creating the sun, moon and stars. He could have continued using that light throughout the creation periods.

God just swept away the darkness that enveloped the earth and the preexisting sun shone through upon the earth.

 

[Woodznutz]

is that the liar moses and their false commandments, abraham and their heredity idolatry ... their fallacies exclude them so obviously as a shame for those that are equally blind to the truth.

- an israelite and not a jew are few and far between, jesus.

(Too unclear to respond to.)

 

[Woodznutz]

16 And God 'made' (lit. appointed, ordained, used) two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

The sun was created "In the beginning" along with the original heaven and earth. Genesis 1 is the story of the re-creation of the surface of the earth and of modern man.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Was there really two of every animal in the whole entire world? Also, if all of creation was made in six days does that mean humans and dinosaurs lived together after all? I don't think that they meant literal twenty-four hour days there I was just wondering what the general consensus was for that question. Oh and why only promise to have one flood when the earth desperately needs it now?

Problem 1)

Did they classify all animals in those days? Nope. We have an estimated 2 million species on this planet.

Problem 2)

They'd have had to go the Americas to find animals, and even in the 14th century very few people made it that far from Europe/Africa/Middle East.

Problem 3)

Fish are animals. Birds are animals. Why would you put fish on the boat?

Problem 4)

The largest ever wooden boat made needed pumps because it leaked the whole time. Even this boat wouldn't have got two of every animal on the boat. And then you needed more because all these animals would have needed to be fed.

 

[surada]

I don't know anyone who uses the Schofield Bible, you use Cyrus as club to batter Christians you don't agree with into submission. When you throw away the supernatural aspects of God you reduce him to a "god" that serves only an academic purpose. You don't have any use for Salvation because you don't believe in Hell, that renders Jesus as just another player in your Morality play.

You're probably using the Schofield Bible and don't know it.

 

[surada]

I was taught by the ones Jesus appointed, these-Matt 24:45. I have studied since 1961, the bible, religions, history of Godly things and ungodly things.

Lol. You're a Jehovah's Witness.

 

[Woodznutz]

Problem 1)

Did they classify all animals in those days? Nope. We have an estimated 2 million species on this planet.

Problem 2)

They'd have had to go the Americas to find animals, and even in the 14th century very few people made it that far from Europe/Africa/Middle East.

Problem 3)

Fish are animals. Birds are animals. Why would you put fish on the boat?

Problem 4)

The largest ever wooden boat made needed pumps because it leaked the whole time. Even this boat wouldn't have got two of every animal on the boat. And then you needed more because all these animals would have needed to be fed.

There were only select animals on the ark. God likely recreated the others after the flood.

Most aquatic creatures likely survived the flood. No need to bring them aboard.

God brought the animals to the ark. Noah didn't have to gather them.

The ark wasn't a ship or boat. It was a floating warehouse. The Wyoming served for several years until a storm broke it up. The ark only needed to survive for one year, so apples and oranges.

Animals were placed on 'subsistence' rations as working rations weren't needed. This also would greatly reduce the amount of manure produced. Animals were likely fattened up before entering the ark.

 

[kjw47]

"Circle" means circuit, not sphere, referring to earths annual journey around the sun.

The bible writer had no clue about the earth traveling around the sun. For centuries man had it wrong about that.

 

[kjw47]

God's chosen are mostly Israelites.

"I (Jesus) was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." The so-called lost tribes of the northern kingdom.

He was sent for them They rejected him thus God rejected them unless they do Matt 23:39--they have outright refused to this day.

 

[kjw47]

The best biblical evidence for a spherical earth is "the earth is God's footstool", and God's throne in "the sides of the north".

The 'sides of the north' refers to the position above the earth of God's throne. Earth is God's 'footstool' which he looks down on from his throne. The 'sides of the north' refers to the northern hemisphere, not a northward heavenly direction, although if looking up from the 'sides of the north' one would be looking in a 'northerly' direction, but that direction is dictated by the earth, not by the heavens. If there were no earth, there would be no 'direction'.

The evidence of a three-dimensional earth is suggested by the term sides. A two-dimensional object, such as a flat earth, doesn't have 'sides'.

How does one come up with this stuff?