Non Essential government workers are laid off at Midnite EST

[Polishprince]

Its funny that PolishPrince wants to blame the democrats. Did Trump walk into a republican controlled congress in 2016? Why wait until now to shut things down?

If the wall is so critical, why wait almost 2 years?

Now was the first time he really had Chuck and Nancy's attention on this. The Wall will protect all Americans, libs and conservatives alike.

So he had to wait until he had the opposition's attention? lmao What utter bullshit. In 2016, 2017, and most of 2018 the republicans controlled the House, Congress and the White House. Why not pass it when they had control?

A lot of the Republicans in Congress opposed President Trump as well you know- guys like Flake and McCain really worked hard to try and frustrate him. That puts responsibility on the likes of Chuck and Nancy, to abandon their partisanship and to work together.

Republicans control the house, senate, and presidency. They are responsible. Perhaps you should learn about responsibility instead of blaming others for failings.

Chuck and Nancy pledged to work together with their President in a bipartisan fashion.

 

[WheelieAddict]

Its funny that PolishPrince wants to blame the democrats. Did Trump walk into a republican controlled congress in 2016? Why wait until now to shut things down?

If the wall is so critical, why wait almost 2 years?

Now was the first time he really had Chuck and Nancy's attention on this. The Wall will protect all Americans, libs and conservatives alike.

So he had to wait until he had the opposition's attention? lmao What utter bullshit. In 2016, 2017, and most of 2018 the republicans controlled the House, Congress and the White House. Why not pass it when they had control?

A lot of the Republicans in Congress opposed President Trump as well you know- guys like Flake and McCain really worked hard to try and frustrate him. That puts responsibility on the likes of Chuck and Nancy, to abandon their partisanship and to work together.

Republicans control the house, senate, and presidency. They are responsible. Perhaps you should learn about responsibility instead of blaming others for failings.

Chuck and Nancy pledged to work together with their President in a bipartisan fashion.

Republicans control the house, senate, and presidency. They are responsible. Perhaps you should learn about responsibility instead of blaming others for failings.

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans are "shutting down" the govt, again? How many times is this now?

Third time this year

They control the government and shutdown is the only tool in their toolbox

 

[debbiedowner]

That reminds me of a polish joke how many pollacks does it take and you can fill in the rest almost anything will work as long as there are 3 plus.

Q: How many Liberals does it take to change a light bulb?

A:None because they expect the government to do it

A:None because turning on the light is considered oppression of the dark room.

A:None. The concept of having indoor light are "out dated beliefs" . they prefer scented candles.

A:None. They sit around and wait for a government program to be developed to fix the light bulb manufacturing industry and ask why isn't that industry unionized? And then there will be a government grant to supply funds to pay for the light bulbs that are manufactured by union labor subsidized by the government after there is an EPA impact study to understand the effects of the light bulb on the darter snails and the rain forest and another study by the Department of Labor, OPM and GAO to ensure that labor is equally distributed in a multicultural manner.

A:None. It's society that has to change, and accept them for what they are, they didn't chose to have a broken filament, and they shouldn't be labeled as "broken" it's 2018 they are "Alternatively Profunctioned."

A:Well first of all you need to abandon the idea that that we could ever just go ahead and change the light bulb. Clinging to childish pie-in-the-sky radical fantasies like this is flagrantly unserious, and only means letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. In order to responsibly address the very serious issue of light bulb burnout, we need to engage in bipartisan dialogue toward a respectful consensus that encompasses all reasonable viewpoints, including those who doubt the fiscal and social responsibility of providing electric lighting in the first place, and to this end a bipartisan "gang of eleventeen" led by Senator Candlemaker and Congressman Darklover is currently working on a "grand bargain" for our proposed Bulb Burnout Responsible Action and Recovery Act. The current proposal, based on a policy framework originally developed by the Anti-Electricity Foundation, begins with a means-testing scale to determine the level of darkness in any particular room; if the darkness level meets certain benchmark targets, a public-private partnership would be permitted to provide subsidies for up to two (2) fingers of one (1) hand to be positioned around the light bulb. Each rotation of five-sixteenths radians would then be distributed according to a sliding scale, and a market for bulb rotation permits would be established to ensure efficient allocation of expenditures on this critical issue. Under the current "grand bargain" framework, this proposed universal lighting policy would of course be implemented at the state and local level, and authorities in each relevant jurisdiction will be permitted at their discretion to withdraw the light bulb changer's fingers and crush the entire hand to a pulp in an iron vise.

A:Fourteen. One to announce that changing the bulb is too dangerous and extreme. One to realize in horror that a radical is about to change it. One to hire a cop to prevent it from being changed. One to light a candle because it's dark. And ten to brag about it and say it shows how well the system works against darkness when liberals are in power.

A:How DARE you. The light bulb doesn't need changing. YOU need to get rid of your bigoted notions about what a light bulb should do or look like. We need to pass laws protecting the rights of burned-out light bulbs to ensure that they have the right to go on just the way they are. No light bulb deserves to be judged based on how it looks or feels. Hillary 2016!

A:At least ten, as they will need to have a discussion about whether or not the light bulb exists. Even if they can agree upon the existence of the light bulb they still may not change it to keep from alienating those who might use other forms of light.

A:None. Liberals wouldn’t actually change the light bulb, but they would show compassion for it by talking a lot about how terrible it is in the dark and more funding is needed to improve dim, 60 watt bulbs up to bright and productive 100 watt bulbs.

A: Let George Bush fix it! It’s his fault it’s dark anyway!


When it comes to stupidity jokes, liberals shouldnt throw stones, bubba.

You assume which by the way only makes an ass out of you that I am a liberal. I am and will always be a never Trumper.

 

[debbiedowner]

Republicans are "shutting down" the govt, again? How many times is this now?

3rd on this year.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The question I have is why does the government hire Non Essential folks anyhow?

Why should the President or any taxpayer give a shit if someone who isn't necessary isn't working?

Due mostly to Obama, the federal government has a $21 Trillion debt, get rid of the non-essential would be a good first step.

I have a good friend who works as a therapist at the VA. He is one of the "non-essential" workers you think should be fired. So the veterans that are fighting to keep their sanity, due to the horrors and stresses from their service, will be on their own. That isn't Obama's doing. That is a function of what the military faces during wartime.

Apparently Chuck and Nancy don't think that the work you therapist friend does at the VA is important. Else they would have ok'ed the stinking $5 billion to protect the border.

Wow, that was a quick change of tune.

Or perhaps they disagree with spending $5 billion we don't have?

As opposed to spending billions on illegals that we don't have?

That was easy

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Republicans are "shutting down" the govt, again? How many times is this now?

3rd on this year.

There were two before? Didn't even notice

Think hard

 

[candycorn]

The question I have is why does the government hire Non Essential folks anyhow?

Why should the President or any taxpayer give a shit if someone who isn't necessary isn't working?

Due mostly to Obama, the federal government has a $21 Trillion debt, get rid of the non-essential would be a good first step.

If you’re serious about the question....it goes to the definition of essential. Having 4 pharmacy techs at the VA is non-essential when the workload is enough for three. However when there is a sickness or vacation, you need a fourth.

As the Trump shutdown lingers, the non-essential employees will be pressed into service. Also, in government monopolies like airport security or food inspection, the businesses and passengers that rely on Uncle Sam have nowhere else to turn so while it may not be essential to have five TSA screeners on duty, it’s preferable.

 

[candycorn]

Its funny that PolishPrince wants to blame the democrats. Did Trump walk into a republican controlled congress in 2016? Why wait until now to shut things down?

If the wall is so critical, why wait almost 2 years?

Now was the first time he really had Chuck and Nancy's attention on this. The Wall will protect all Americans, libs and conservatives alike.

So he had to wait until he had the opposition's attention? lmao What utter bullshit. In 2016, 2017, and most of 2018 the republicans controlled the House, Congress and the White House. Why not pass it when they had control?

A lot of the Republicans in Congress opposed President Trump as well you know- guys like Flake and McCain really worked hard to try and frustrate him. That puts responsibility on the likes of Chuck and Nancy, to abandon their partisanship and to work together.

No

 

[Polishprince]

Republicans are "shutting down" the govt, again? How many times is this now?

3rd on this year.

I didn't notice the first 2, and if I turned off the news I wouldn't even know this one was happening.

However, if President Trump thinks that this might bring the Congress back to sanity, and protect our border, its worth a try. Shut it down until spring, see if this works.

The American people are worth it.

The Wall isn't going to be perfect, it won't deter every illegal but it will deter some. If a single American doesn't face the fate of Kate Steinle because of the wall, it will be worth every penny.

 

[WinterBorn]

The question I have is why does the government hire Non Essential folks anyhow?

Why should the President or any taxpayer give a shit if someone who isn't necessary isn't working?

Due mostly to Obama, the federal government has a $21 Trillion debt, get rid of the non-essential would be a good first step.

I have a good friend who works as a therapist at the VA. He is one of the "non-essential" workers you think should be fired. So the veterans that are fighting to keep their sanity, due to the horrors and stresses from their service, will be on their own. That isn't Obama's doing. That is a function of what the military faces during wartime.

Apparently Chuck and Nancy don't think that the work you therapist friend does at the VA is important. Else they would have ok'ed the stinking $5 billion to protect the border.

Wow, that was a quick change of tune.

Or perhaps they disagree with spending $5 billion we don't have?

As opposed to spending billions on illegals that we don't have?

That was easy

And you think the ONLY way to avoid spending billions on illegals is to spend billions on a wall?

 

[Polishprince]

The question I have is why does the government hire Non Essential folks anyhow?

Why should the President or any taxpayer give a shit if someone who isn't necessary isn't working?

Due mostly to Obama, the federal government has a $21 Trillion debt, get rid of the non-essential would be a good first step.

I have a good friend who works as a therapist at the VA. He is one of the "non-essential" workers you think should be fired. So the veterans that are fighting to keep their sanity, due to the horrors and stresses from their service, will be on their own. That isn't Obama's doing. That is a function of what the military faces during wartime.

Apparently Chuck and Nancy don't think that the work you therapist friend does at the VA is important. Else they would have ok'ed the stinking $5 billion to protect the border.

Wow, that was a quick change of tune.

Or perhaps they disagree with spending $5 billion we don't have?

As opposed to spending billions on illegals that we don't have?

That was easy

And you think the ONLY way to avoid spending billions on illegals is to spend billions on a wall?

There might be other ways, but neither Chuck nor Nancy have proposed any so what we have is the Wall. China is satisfied with its own wall, so was the Roman Empire under Hadrian.

 

[WinterBorn]

I have a good friend who works as a therapist at the VA. He is one of the "non-essential" workers you think should be fired. So the veterans that are fighting to keep their sanity, due to the horrors and stresses from their service, will be on their own. That isn't Obama's doing. That is a function of what the military faces during wartime.

Apparently Chuck and Nancy don't think that the work you therapist friend does at the VA is important. Else they would have ok'ed the stinking $5 billion to protect the border.

Wow, that was a quick change of tune.

Or perhaps they disagree with spending $5 billion we don't have?

As opposed to spending billions on illegals that we don't have?

That was easy

And you think the ONLY way to avoid spending billions on illegals is to spend billions on a wall?

There might be other ways, but neither Chuck nor Nancy have proposed any so what we have is the Wall. China is satisfied with its own wall, so was the Roman Empire under Hadrian.

A wall built in 122 AD is hardly a model for modern times.

And China? You want to use China as an example of proper governing? They have to work harder to keep people IN than they do to keep them out.

 

[eagle1462010]

Gov't shutdowns and Debt Ceilings are part of the checks and balances of the Gov't.......and our Constitution.........

The fact that some are getting a paid vacation at the moment doesn't change that there are different opinions on Border Security. For decades the likes of the Career politicians have REFUSED to fix the problem........and now bitch at Trump for trying to do something about it. While I don't think the wall is required across the entire Southern Border I believe in High Traffic Areas it serves a VERY USELFULL purpose.

5 Billion could build about 400 miles of Walls with security cameras and measures.............

Illegal immigration cost a hell of a lot more than that when they get on the social programs in this country.

So some working for the gov't get temp vacations...........so the fuck what........The Career politicians have wasted more on BS forever and their WHINING IS DISMISSED.

They just kicked out about 11 Billion to Mexico for assistance to that country...........who have helped create a bigger mess on our border.

Take that money back and exchange it for 800 miles of reinforced wall.

Pony the Fuck up or stay shut down.

 

[Polishprince]

If Congress doesn't pony up the money quickly, President Trump should shut down the border completely Seal it up as tight as a mother fucker.

Mexico's economy relies on Americans visiting, the owners of Mexican bordellos and donkey shows will pressure the liberals to erect the wall.

 

[eagle1462010]

If Congress doesn't pony up the money quickly, President Trump should shut down the border completely Seal it up as tight as a mother fucker.

Mexico's economy relies on Americans visiting, the owners of Mexican bordellos and donkey shows will pressure the liberals to erect the wall.

Sealing the border put pressure on Mexico in Tijuana and caused them a crisis there.......so much so that the people of Tijuana were openly protesting and rioting the new guests who were helped along the way by groups in Mexico..............The financial impact to Mexico caused it..................

This is a numbers game..........200 million plus would love to come here because of the poverty south of the border.....then they end up costing us billions in social programs, schools, and etc.........If you encourage it more will come..just as unaccompanied children exploded under Obama when they saw that loop hole........Just as Catch and release encouraged more to come.

It is not our responsibility to take on all the world's problems....Securing the border and making it difficult to get in will pay for itself a 100 times over..........Stopping the influx of illegal drugs helps stop over 70000 Americans a day dying from drugs........Not to mention for over a decade there has been a drug war that has killed as many or more than the War in Syria............

This is what Trump ran on...............and it's time to stop playing stupid games with the Career politicians who have NO INTENTIONS of anything but Open Borders.............They have made that clear they want the cheap labor and don't want it changed.............

 

[rightwinger]

The question I have is why does the government hire Non Essential folks anyhow?

Why should the President or any taxpayer give a shit if someone who isn't necessary isn't working?

Due mostly to Obama, the federal government has a $21 Trillion debt, get rid of the non-essential would be a good first step.

If you’re serious about the question....it goes to the definition of essential. Having 4 pharmacy techs at the VA is non-essential when the workload is enough for three. However when there is a sickness or vacation, you need a fourth.

As the Trump shutdown lingers, the non-essential employees will be pressed into service. Also, in government monopolies like airport security or food inspection, the businesses and passengers that rely on Uncle Sam have nowhere else to turn so while it may not be essential to have five TSA screeners on duty, it’s preferable.

It doesn’t work like that

Pharmacy techs are either essential or nonessential. In this case, they are essential

An accountant is a highly paid and important position. But if you lose him for a week or ten days, you can probably catch up so he is nonessential

 

[rightwinger]

If Congress doesn't pony up the money quickly, President Trump should shut down the border completely Seal it up as tight as a mother fucker.

Mexico's economy relies on Americans visiting, the owners of Mexican bordellos and donkey shows will pressure the liberals to erect the wall.

I would love to give up the money and build us a wall we can be proud of

But we just can’t afford it. With a $22 trillion debt, we just can’t do it now. Maybe, once we have paid off our debt, we can afford a wall

 

[Polishprince]

If Congress doesn't pony up the money quickly, President Trump should shut down the border completely Seal it up as tight as a mother fucker.

Mexico's economy relies on Americans visiting, the owners of Mexican bordellos and donkey shows will pressure the liberals to erect the wall.

I would love to give up the money and build us a wall we can be proud of

But we just can’t afford it. With a $22 trillion debt, we just can’t do it now. Maybe, once we have paid off our debt, we can afford a wall

I look at it differently. A wall will deter Illegals and reduce the number entering America. America will save a lot of money in welfare, education, health care for illegals as well as reduce the amount of grief they cause by victimizing our people.

Building the wall will save money in the medium to long term, not cost anything

 

[candycorn]

The question I have is why does the government hire Non Essential folks anyhow?

Why should the President or any taxpayer give a shit if someone who isn't necessary isn't working?

Due mostly to Obama, the federal government has a $21 Trillion debt, get rid of the non-essential would be a good first step.

If you’re serious about the question....it goes to the definition of essential. Having 4 pharmacy techs at the VA is non-essential when the workload is enough for three. However when there is a sickness or vacation, you need a fourth.

As the Trump shutdown lingers, the non-essential employees will be pressed into service. Also, in government monopolies like airport security or food inspection, the businesses and passengers that rely on Uncle Sam have nowhere else to turn so while it may not be essential to have five TSA screeners on duty, it’s preferable.

It doesn’t work like that

Pharmacy techs are either essential or nonessential. In this case, they are essential

An accountant is a highly paid and important position. But if you lose him for a week or ten days, you can probably catch up so he is nonessential

In one sense it does. If the question is why is it essential you have 4 techs instead of 3.

What you’re speaking of is urgency vs essential. One rung is higher on the ladder than the other.

Put another way, if you have 5 TSA screeners and 1000 passengers to screen, you can process them in x minutes. Theoretically 4 screeners can do the same 1k in x+20% of the time. Is the fifth screener essential?