Non-Jews at Auschwitz.

[irosie91]

I do not think Germans were fighting against Poles or even Russians. Their war was against the elites that were controlling Poland and Russia.

Correct

The elitist leadership of the Bolsheviks (communists) was comprised of about 95% Jews, who were violently opposed to Germany's National Socialism. ...

Once I started to dive deeper into the causes of World War II, I read quite a few materials written by Germans. In any conflict, there are at least two sides and therefore there are at least two different viewpoints. The book that represents German viewpoint quite accurately is Mein Kampf written by Hitler himself. He does not talk about any genocidal plans in his book but he does warn Jews quite a few times in his book that if Aryan people in Europe (Germany, Russia, Poland, etc.) are hurt, Jews will have to pay the price. He did not express any hatred towards Russians or Poles in the book as he considered them Aryans. He was very critical of British who according to Hitler were colluding with Jews in laying the foundation for the demise of Aryan race. Interestingly enough, Hitler viewed Russians as victims of Jews. Hitler was also very critical of European royals whom he considered God's punishment for Aryan people.

you are getting close-------but ""NO CIGAR"" The fact that Hitler did
not EXPRESS hatred for Poles in his book------does not paint the whole
picture. Nazi propaganda IN THE 1930s was very ANTI-POLE---and did not describe poles as members of the MASTER RACE----they were
definitely "untermenchen" "racially"-----the brits are more Aryan than
are the Russians-----but still enemy even without the tiny jewish minority
there------in fact they were ELITES that had potential to be master
race members IF THEY ASCRIBED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF NAZISM------which some of those "elites" did. Good news for YOU-----the BRAHMINS of India--------are ARYANS by all definitions-----it's the tiny
little Dravidians who are the untermenchen. Of course Iranians are
Aryans-------AND THE AYATOILETS KNOW IT. Try not to give it too
much thought------the whole theory tends to break down but you do have
the RELIGIOUS VIEW right--------the "god" of Germany was preoccupied with the MASTER RACE paradigm

 

[Picaro]

We protest against holocaust deniers. Then we deny all non Jew holocausts. This has never bothered anyone. Logic never counts, politics and history are always a 100 % emotion only business. And the masters of emotion control are the Jews. Hehehe.

Lifer-----how old were you when you KNEW about the Armenian genocide?
I grew up in a town CHOCK full of garbage like you. Not only were they taught -----by the light of the Christmas tree, to deny the german Christian murder of millions of jews-------NONE OF THEM EVER HEARD OF THE
TRAGEDY INFLICTED ON THE CHRISTIAN ARMENIAN either. My mom
told me about the Armenian tragedy when I was about seven or eight.
he he he he----how old were you? are you still an ignorant pile of shit?

All the genocides, be it true or false are anecdotal. Except the Jewish one. This can be explained by the fact that history is written by victors, not losers, be it true or lie. This is simply a universal fact, every school teaches that history is written by victors. So whatever victors invent is what happened. Don't you agree? By controlling the past, you control the future.

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

 

[anotherlife]

We protest against holocaust deniers. Then we deny all non Jew holocausts. This has never bothered anyone. Logic never counts, politics and history are always a 100 % emotion only business. And the masters of emotion control are the Jews. Hehehe.

Lifer-----how old were you when you KNEW about the Armenian genocide?
I grew up in a town CHOCK full of garbage like you. Not only were they taught -----by the light of the Christmas tree, to deny the german Christian murder of millions of jews-------NONE OF THEM EVER HEARD OF THE
TRAGEDY INFLICTED ON THE CHRISTIAN ARMENIAN either. My mom
told me about the Armenian tragedy when I was about seven or eight.
he he he he----how old were you? are you still an ignorant pile of shit?

All the genocides, be it true or false are anecdotal. Except the Jewish one. This can be explained by the fact that history is written by victors, not losers, be it true or lie. This is simply a universal fact, every school teaches that history is written by victors. So whatever victors invent is what happened. Don't you agree? By controlling the past, you control the future.

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

 

[irosie91]

We protest against holocaust deniers. Then we deny all non Jew holocausts. This has never bothered anyone. Logic never counts, politics and history are always a 100 % emotion only business. And the masters of emotion control are the Jews. Hehehe.

Lifer-----how old were you when you KNEW about the Armenian genocide?
I grew up in a town CHOCK full of garbage like you. Not only were they taught -----by the light of the Christmas tree, to deny the german Christian murder of millions of jews-------NONE OF THEM EVER HEARD OF THE
TRAGEDY INFLICTED ON THE CHRISTIAN ARMENIAN either. My mom
told me about the Armenian tragedy when I was about seven or eight.
he he he he----how old were you? are you still an ignorant pile of shit?

All the genocides, be it true or false are anecdotal. Except the Jewish one. This can be explained by the fact that history is written by victors, not losers, be it true or lie. This is simply a universal fact, every school teaches that history is written by victors. So whatever victors invent is what happened. Don't you agree? By controlling the past, you control the future.

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

the "the losers" do not "typically" die off or get assimilated in a
"couple of generations" MANY societies subjected to genocide survive-----more or less. The genocide in the UKRAINE is a classic example of SURVIVORS------no matter how Stalin tried. I wonder where the jerk who stated and the idiot who AGREED got the idea that genocides routinely DESTROY whole cultures without a trace. Long ago----I attended the deathbed of an elderly lady who saw her whole family wiped out in the 1915-17 Armenian genocide (she died circa 1975------she was a very articulate witness. There was a genocide of Hindus in East Pakistan circa 1971------still survivors by way of Calcutta (well "'Kolkata"" now). Only an idiot would insist that genocides lead to TOTAL annihilation ROUTINELY. -----in fact it is rare. A somewhat rare example of TOTAL annihilation via genocide includes the Zoroastrian,
Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia. Comprehensive
excavation of cities like Mecca would elucidate the horrors that destroyed them. Don't hold your breath-----too many people don't WANT to know

 

[anotherlife]

We protest against holocaust deniers. Then we deny all non Jew holocausts. This has never bothered anyone. Logic never counts, politics and history are always a 100 % emotion only business. And the masters of emotion control are the Jews. Hehehe.

Lifer-----how old were you when you KNEW about the Armenian genocide?
I grew up in a town CHOCK full of garbage like you. Not only were they taught -----by the light of the Christmas tree, to deny the german Christian murder of millions of jews-------NONE OF THEM EVER HEARD OF THE
TRAGEDY INFLICTED ON THE CHRISTIAN ARMENIAN either. My mom
told me about the Armenian tragedy when I was about seven or eight.
he he he he----how old were you? are you still an ignorant pile of shit?

All the genocides, be it true or false are anecdotal. Except the Jewish one. This can be explained by the fact that history is written by victors, not losers, be it true or lie. This is simply a universal fact, every school teaches that history is written by victors. So whatever victors invent is what happened. Don't you agree? By controlling the past, you control the future.

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

the "the losers" do not "typically" die off or get assimilated in a
"couple of generations" MANY societies subjected to genocide survive-----more or less. The genocide in the UKRAINE is a classic example of SURVIVORS------no matter how Stalin tried. I wonder where the jerk who stated and the idiot who AGREED got the idea that genocides routinely DESTROY whole cultures without a trace. Long ago----I attended the deathbed of an elderly lady who saw her whole family wiped out in the 1915-17 Armenian genocide (she died circa 1975------she was a very articulate witness. There was a genocide of Hindus in East Pakistan circa 1971------still survivors by way of Calcutta (well "'Kolkata"" now). Only an idiot would insist that genocides lead to TOTAL annihilation ROUTINELY. -----in fact it is rare. A somewhat rare example of TOTAL annihilation via genocide includes the Zoroastrian,
Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia. Comprehensive
excavation of cities like Mecca would elucidate the horrors that destroyed them. Don't hold your breath-----too many people don't WANT to know

I like your writing style! Yes there are many idiots on the planet! Hehehe. But when you have to resort to archeology to prove a genocide, then it is clearly anecdotal.

For example, let's take the Occitan of France. You don't find a native Occitan speaker any more under the age of 60 or so. You will have to take a university class to hear about them in the future, and their artifacts will be counted just French as if it was a Paris suburb. Genocide complete. No survivors. I wish your statement was true though, and that no genocide were at 100%.

 

[irosie91]

Lifer-----how old were you when you KNEW about the Armenian genocide?
I grew up in a town CHOCK full of garbage like you. Not only were they taught -----by the light of the Christmas tree, to deny the german Christian murder of millions of jews-------NONE OF THEM EVER HEARD OF THE
TRAGEDY INFLICTED ON THE CHRISTIAN ARMENIAN either. My mom
told me about the Armenian tragedy when I was about seven or eight.
he he he he----how old were you? are you still an ignorant pile of shit?

All the genocides, be it true or false are anecdotal. Except the Jewish one. This can be explained by the fact that history is written by victors, not losers, be it true or lie. This is simply a universal fact, every school teaches that history is written by victors. So whatever victors invent is what happened. Don't you agree? By controlling the past, you control the future.

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

the "the losers" do not "typically" die off or get assimilated in a
"couple of generations" MANY societies subjected to genocide survive-----more or less. The genocide in the UKRAINE is a classic example of SURVIVORS------no matter how Stalin tried. I wonder where the jerk who stated and the idiot who AGREED got the idea that genocides routinely DESTROY whole cultures without a trace. Long ago----I attended the deathbed of an elderly lady who saw her whole family wiped out in the 1915-17 Armenian genocide (she died circa 1975------she was a very articulate witness. There was a genocide of Hindus in East Pakistan circa 1971------still survivors by way of Calcutta (well "'Kolkata"" now). Only an idiot would insist that genocides lead to TOTAL annihilation ROUTINELY. -----in fact it is rare. A somewhat rare example of TOTAL annihilation via genocide includes the Zoroastrian,
Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia. Comprehensive
excavation of cities like Mecca would elucidate the horrors that destroyed them. Don't hold your breath-----too many people don't WANT to know

I like your writing style! Yes there are many idiots on the planet! Hehehe. But when you have to resort to archeology to prove a genocide, then it is clearly anecdotal.

For example, let's take the Occitan of France. You don't find a native Occitan speaker any more under the age of 60 or so. You will have to take a university class to hear about them in the future, and their artifacts will be counted just French as if it was a Paris suburb. Genocide complete. No survivors. I wish your statement was true though, and that no genocide were at 100%.

depends on how you DEFINE genocide. As to Occitan---you are describing ASSIMILATION more than GENOCIDE ----
no one speaks "EGYPTIAN" anymore either but there was no
comprehensive genocide of the people of Egypt. Ain't no more Aztecs either-----but my Mexican catholic victim of Hernan Cortez neighbor is able to tell me Aztec words. He really does
not look "SPANISH" ----more assimilation. As for places like
Arabia------there were lots of LITERATE people there----
Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians and even Sabeans---very ESTABLISHED PEOPLE that ain't no more BY CONCERTED
deadly EFFORT-------not just assimilation. People do not forget
how to write

 

[anotherlife]

All the genocides, be it true or false are anecdotal. Except the Jewish one. This can be explained by the fact that history is written by victors, not losers, be it true or lie. This is simply a universal fact, every school teaches that history is written by victors. So whatever victors invent is what happened. Don't you agree? By controlling the past, you control the future.

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

the "the losers" do not "typically" die off or get assimilated in a
"couple of generations" MANY societies subjected to genocide survive-----more or less. The genocide in the UKRAINE is a classic example of SURVIVORS------no matter how Stalin tried. I wonder where the jerk who stated and the idiot who AGREED got the idea that genocides routinely DESTROY whole cultures without a trace. Long ago----I attended the deathbed of an elderly lady who saw her whole family wiped out in the 1915-17 Armenian genocide (she died circa 1975------she was a very articulate witness. There was a genocide of Hindus in East Pakistan circa 1971------still survivors by way of Calcutta (well "'Kolkata"" now). Only an idiot would insist that genocides lead to TOTAL annihilation ROUTINELY. -----in fact it is rare. A somewhat rare example of TOTAL annihilation via genocide includes the Zoroastrian,
Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia. Comprehensive
excavation of cities like Mecca would elucidate the horrors that destroyed them. Don't hold your breath-----too many people don't WANT to know

I like your writing style! Yes there are many idiots on the planet! Hehehe. But when you have to resort to archeology to prove a genocide, then it is clearly anecdotal.

For example, let's take the Occitan of France. You don't find a native Occitan speaker any more under the age of 60 or so. You will have to take a university class to hear about them in the future, and their artifacts will be counted just French as if it was a Paris suburb. Genocide complete. No survivors. I wish your statement was true though, and that no genocide were at 100%.

depends on how you DEFINE genocide. As to Occitan---you are describing ASSIMILATION more than GENOCIDE ----
no one speaks "EGYPTIAN" anymore either but there was no
comprehensive genocide of the people of Egypt. Ain't no more Aztecs either-----but my Mexican catholic victim of Hernan Cortez neighbor is able to tell me Aztec words. He really does
not look "SPANISH" ----more assimilation. As for places like
Arabia------there were lots of LITERATE people there----
Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians and even Sabeans---very ESTABLISHED PEOPLE that ain't no more BY CONCERTED
deadly EFFORT-------not just assimilation. People do not forget
how to write

The Arabian example on your list is like the Hungarian example of Europe. Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Romania, and the Soviet Union, spent a couple of decades organizing vigilante groups to kill Hungarians, then the rest of them they just deported to remote areas. The present day children of those Hungarians don't write Hungarian any more and don't speak it either. Are we talking about genocide as standard tool of centralization of government power? Or standard tool of increasing government sophistication? I think I can agree with that observation.

 

[irosie91]

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

the "the losers" do not "typically" die off or get assimilated in a
"couple of generations" MANY societies subjected to genocide survive-----more or less. The genocide in the UKRAINE is a classic example of SURVIVORS------no matter how Stalin tried. I wonder where the jerk who stated and the idiot who AGREED got the idea that genocides routinely DESTROY whole cultures without a trace. Long ago----I attended the deathbed of an elderly lady who saw her whole family wiped out in the 1915-17 Armenian genocide (she died circa 1975------she was a very articulate witness. There was a genocide of Hindus in East Pakistan circa 1971------still survivors by way of Calcutta (well "'Kolkata"" now). Only an idiot would insist that genocides lead to TOTAL annihilation ROUTINELY. -----in fact it is rare. A somewhat rare example of TOTAL annihilation via genocide includes the Zoroastrian,
Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia. Comprehensive
excavation of cities like Mecca would elucidate the horrors that destroyed them. Don't hold your breath-----too many people don't WANT to know

I like your writing style! Yes there are many idiots on the planet! Hehehe. But when you have to resort to archeology to prove a genocide, then it is clearly anecdotal.

For example, let's take the Occitan of France. You don't find a native Occitan speaker any more under the age of 60 or so. You will have to take a university class to hear about them in the future, and their artifacts will be counted just French as if it was a Paris suburb. Genocide complete. No survivors. I wish your statement was true though, and that no genocide were at 100%.

depends on how you DEFINE genocide. As to Occitan---you are describing ASSIMILATION more than GENOCIDE ----
no one speaks "EGYPTIAN" anymore either but there was no
comprehensive genocide of the people of Egypt. Ain't no more Aztecs either-----but my Mexican catholic victim of Hernan Cortez neighbor is able to tell me Aztec words. He really does
not look "SPANISH" ----more assimilation. As for places like
Arabia------there were lots of LITERATE people there----
Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians and even Sabeans---very ESTABLISHED PEOPLE that ain't no more BY CONCERTED
deadly EFFORT-------not just assimilation. People do not forget
how to write

The Arabian example on your list is like the Hungarian example of Europe. Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Romania, and the Soviet Union, spent a couple of decades organizing vigilante groups to kill Hungarians, then the rest of them they just deported to remote areas. The present day children of those Hungarians don't write Hungarian any more and don't speak it either. Are we talking about genocide as standard tool of centralization of government power? Or standard tool of increasing government sophistication? I think I can agree with that observation.

We have not tried to define genocide but when I say "comprehensive"-----I mean----no remnant of a given
community would remain in existence in a given place
because of FORCED ANNHILATION of a specific
community either by killing or expulsion and destruction
of the artifacts of that community. Humans being humans---
no matter what gets done to a large number of people----
DNA GETS MIXED. I do not know which Hungarian
civilizations got comprehensively destroyed----but I do know
that there are no Christian, Jewish, Sabean or Zoroastrian
communities left in Arabia. There is written documentation
of their existence and all were literate. Their total annihilation
is-----kinda remarkable and very scantily documented as to
what happened where they WENT. We have a lot more on
AZTECS-------they got converted to Christianity but still do a
bit of Aztec language and culture Zoroastrian, Christian and jewish culture got WIPED out in arabia

 

[anotherlife]

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

the "the losers" do not "typically" die off or get assimilated in a
"couple of generations" MANY societies subjected to genocide survive-----more or less. The genocide in the UKRAINE is a classic example of SURVIVORS------no matter how Stalin tried. I wonder where the jerk who stated and the idiot who AGREED got the idea that genocides routinely DESTROY whole cultures without a trace. Long ago----I attended the deathbed of an elderly lady who saw her whole family wiped out in the 1915-17 Armenian genocide (she died circa 1975------she was a very articulate witness. There was a genocide of Hindus in East Pakistan circa 1971------still survivors by way of Calcutta (well "'Kolkata"" now). Only an idiot would insist that genocides lead to TOTAL annihilation ROUTINELY. -----in fact it is rare. A somewhat rare example of TOTAL annihilation via genocide includes the Zoroastrian,
Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia. Comprehensive
excavation of cities like Mecca would elucidate the horrors that destroyed them. Don't hold your breath-----too many people don't WANT to know

I like your writing style! Yes there are many idiots on the planet! Hehehe. But when you have to resort to archeology to prove a genocide, then it is clearly anecdotal.

For example, let's take the Occitan of France. You don't find a native Occitan speaker any more under the age of 60 or so. You will have to take a university class to hear about them in the future, and their artifacts will be counted just French as if it was a Paris suburb. Genocide complete. No survivors. I wish your statement was true though, and that no genocide were at 100%.

depends on how you DEFINE genocide. As to Occitan---you are describing ASSIMILATION more than GENOCIDE ----
no one speaks "EGYPTIAN" anymore either but there was no
comprehensive genocide of the people of Egypt. Ain't no more Aztecs either-----but my Mexican catholic victim of Hernan Cortez neighbor is able to tell me Aztec words. He really does
not look "SPANISH" ----more assimilation. As for places like
Arabia------there were lots of LITERATE people there----
Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians and even Sabeans---very ESTABLISHED PEOPLE that ain't no more BY CONCERTED
deadly EFFORT-------not just assimilation. People do not forget
how to write

The Arabian example on your list is like the Hungarian example of Europe. Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Romania, and the Soviet Union, spent a couple of decades organizing vigilante groups to kill Hungarians, then the rest of them they just deported to remote areas. The present day children of those Hungarians don't write Hungarian any more and don't speak it either. Are we talking about genocide as standard tool of centralization of government power? Or standard tool of increasing government sophistication? I think I can agree with that observation.

We have not tried to define genocide but when I say "comprehensive"-----I mean----no remnant of a given
community would remain in existence in a given place
because of FORCED ANNHILATION of a specific
community either by killing or expulsion and destruction
of the artifacts of that community. Humans being humans---
no matter what gets done to a large number of people----
DNA GETS MIXED. I do not know which Hungarian
civilizations got comprehensively destroyed----but I do know
that there are no Christian, Jewish, Sabean or Zoroastrian
communities left in Arabia. There is written documentation
of their existence and all were literate. Their total annihilation
is-----kinda remarkable and very scantily documented as to
what happened where they WENT. We have a lot more on
AZTECS-------they got converted to Christianity but still do a
bit of Aztec language and culture Zoroastrian, Christian and jewish culture got WIPED out in arabia

Very interesting. The Arabia problem is as new to me, as the Hungarian problem to you. This shows that genocide works. Comprehensive destruction of civilizations looks like is the best modern money spinner.

 

[irosie91]

the "the losers" do not "typically" die off or get assimilated in a
"couple of generations" MANY societies subjected to genocide survive-----more or less. The genocide in the UKRAINE is a classic example of SURVIVORS------no matter how Stalin tried. I wonder where the jerk who stated and the idiot who AGREED got the idea that genocides routinely DESTROY whole cultures without a trace. Long ago----I attended the deathbed of an elderly lady who saw her whole family wiped out in the 1915-17 Armenian genocide (she died circa 1975------she was a very articulate witness. There was a genocide of Hindus in East Pakistan circa 1971------still survivors by way of Calcutta (well "'Kolkata"" now). Only an idiot would insist that genocides lead to TOTAL annihilation ROUTINELY. -----in fact it is rare. A somewhat rare example of TOTAL annihilation via genocide includes the Zoroastrian,
Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia. Comprehensive
excavation of cities like Mecca would elucidate the horrors that destroyed them. Don't hold your breath-----too many people don't WANT to know

I like your writing style! Yes there are many idiots on the planet! Hehehe. But when you have to resort to archeology to prove a genocide, then it is clearly anecdotal.

For example, let's take the Occitan of France. You don't find a native Occitan speaker any more under the age of 60 or so. You will have to take a university class to hear about them in the future, and their artifacts will be counted just French as if it was a Paris suburb. Genocide complete. No survivors. I wish your statement was true though, and that no genocide were at 100%.

depends on how you DEFINE genocide. As to Occitan---you are describing ASSIMILATION more than GENOCIDE ----
no one speaks "EGYPTIAN" anymore either but there was no
comprehensive genocide of the people of Egypt. Ain't no more Aztecs either-----but my Mexican catholic victim of Hernan Cortez neighbor is able to tell me Aztec words. He really does
not look "SPANISH" ----more assimilation. As for places like
Arabia------there were lots of LITERATE people there----
Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians and even Sabeans---very ESTABLISHED PEOPLE that ain't no more BY CONCERTED
deadly EFFORT-------not just assimilation. People do not forget
how to write

The Arabian example on your list is like the Hungarian example of Europe. Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Romania, and the Soviet Union, spent a couple of decades organizing vigilante groups to kill Hungarians, then the rest of them they just deported to remote areas. The present day children of those Hungarians don't write Hungarian any more and don't speak it either. Are we talking about genocide as standard tool of centralization of government power? Or standard tool of increasing government sophistication? I think I can agree with that observation.

We have not tried to define genocide but when I say "comprehensive"-----I mean----no remnant of a given
community would remain in existence in a given place
because of FORCED ANNHILATION of a specific
community either by killing or expulsion and destruction
of the artifacts of that community. Humans being humans---
no matter what gets done to a large number of people----
DNA GETS MIXED. I do not know which Hungarian
civilizations got comprehensively destroyed----but I do know
that there are no Christian, Jewish, Sabean or Zoroastrian
communities left in Arabia. There is written documentation
of their existence and all were literate. Their total annihilation
is-----kinda remarkable and very scantily documented as to
what happened where they WENT. We have a lot more on
AZTECS-------they got converted to Christianity but still do a
bit of Aztec language and culture Zoroastrian, Christian and jewish culture got WIPED out in arabia

Very interesting. The Arabia problem is as new to me, as the Hungarian problem to you. This shows that genocide works. Comprehensive destruction of civilizations looks like is the best modern money spinner.

"this shows genocide works" ????? WTF does that mean????.

 

[Picaro]

We protest against holocaust deniers. Then we deny all non Jew holocausts. This has never bothered anyone. Logic never counts, politics and history are always a 100 % emotion only business. And the masters of emotion control are the Jews. Hehehe.

Lifer-----how old were you when you KNEW about the Armenian genocide?
I grew up in a town CHOCK full of garbage like you. Not only were they taught -----by the light of the Christmas tree, to deny the german Christian murder of millions of jews-------NONE OF THEM EVER HEARD OF THE
TRAGEDY INFLICTED ON THE CHRISTIAN ARMENIAN either. My mom
told me about the Armenian tragedy when I was about seven or eight.
he he he he----how old were you? are you still an ignorant pile of shit?

All the genocides, be it true or false are anecdotal. Except the Jewish one. This can be explained by the fact that history is written by victors, not losers, be it true or lie. This is simply a universal fact, every school teaches that history is written by victors. So whatever victors invent is what happened. Don't you agree? By controlling the past, you control the future.

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

Rubbish. Few get completely genocided; even the Muslim bandits didn't kill everybody, and they were mostly illiterates anyway, and couldn't write anything, much less 'victory histories'. While I don't buy into the 'two thousand years of persecution' BS re Jews, it's a fact Hitler built several death camps specifically for the factory style murder of Jews, and most of their deaths were not "just the usual consequences of war" stuff at all, nor was the violence and killing when some tried to return their homes, leading the Allies to force survivors to remain in the camps for two years after the war was over.

And you're just wrong that 'nobody cares about the other massacres"; that's just you speaking of your own focus. Most people will be concerned about their own tragedies as a people, and Jewish people are no different. Would you claim the Irish are only concerned about their Famine deaths and nobody else's? Of course not.

 

[Picaro]

We protest against holocaust deniers. Then we deny all non Jew holocausts. This has never bothered anyone. Logic never counts, politics and history are always a 100 % emotion only business. And the masters of emotion control are the Jews. Hehehe.

Lifer-----how old were you when you KNEW about the Armenian genocide?
I grew up in a town CHOCK full of garbage like you. Not only were they taught -----by the light of the Christmas tree, to deny the german Christian murder of millions of jews-------NONE OF THEM EVER HEARD OF THE
TRAGEDY INFLICTED ON THE CHRISTIAN ARMENIAN either. My mom
told me about the Armenian tragedy when I was about seven or eight.
he he he he----how old were you? are you still an ignorant pile of shit?

All the genocides, be it true or false are anecdotal. Except the Jewish one. This can be explained by the fact that history is written by victors, not losers, be it true or lie. This is simply a universal fact, every school teaches that history is written by victors. So whatever victors invent is what happened. Don't you agree? By controlling the past, you control the future.

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

the "the losers" do not "typically" die off or get assimilated in a
"couple of generations" MANY societies subjected to genocide survive-----more or less. The genocide in the UKRAINE is a classic example of SURVIVORS------no matter how Stalin tried. I wonder where the jerk who stated and the idiot who AGREED got the idea that genocides routinely DESTROY whole cultures without a trace. Long ago----I attended the deathbed of an elderly lady who saw her whole family wiped out in the 1915-17 Armenian genocide (she died circa 1975------she was a very articulate witness. There was a genocide of Hindus in East Pakistan circa 1971------still survivors by way of Calcutta (well "'Kolkata"" now). Only an idiot would insist that genocides lead to TOTAL annihilation ROUTINELY. -----in fact it is rare. A somewhat rare example of TOTAL annihilation via genocide includes the Zoroastrian,
Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia. Comprehensive
excavation of cities like Mecca would elucidate the horrors that destroyed them. Don't hold your breath-----too many people don't WANT to know

At one time or another throughout history MOST tribes have faced defeats and mass losses of life; the "English" faced it, several times, the various Gaulic tribes of France, Spain, and Germany, Goths, Romans, Greeks, Persians, Indians, everybody, some more than once, some many times. There are always survivors, even among illiterate tribes, who wouldn't leave records. It would have to be a very small tribe all living in one small area to be completely wiped out. Most assimilate long before that.

 

[irosie91]

Lifer-----how old were you when you KNEW about the Armenian genocide?
I grew up in a town CHOCK full of garbage like you. Not only were they taught -----by the light of the Christmas tree, to deny the german Christian murder of millions of jews-------NONE OF THEM EVER HEARD OF THE
TRAGEDY INFLICTED ON THE CHRISTIAN ARMENIAN either. My mom
told me about the Armenian tragedy when I was about seven or eight.
he he he he----how old were you? are you still an ignorant pile of shit?

All the genocides, be it true or false are anecdotal. Except the Jewish one. This can be explained by the fact that history is written by victors, not losers, be it true or lie. This is simply a universal fact, every school teaches that history is written by victors. So whatever victors invent is what happened. Don't you agree? By controlling the past, you control the future.

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

the "the losers" do not "typically" die off or get assimilated in a
"couple of generations" MANY societies subjected to genocide survive-----more or less. The genocide in the UKRAINE is a classic example of SURVIVORS------no matter how Stalin tried. I wonder where the jerk who stated and the idiot who AGREED got the idea that genocides routinely DESTROY whole cultures without a trace. Long ago----I attended the deathbed of an elderly lady who saw her whole family wiped out in the 1915-17 Armenian genocide (she died circa 1975------she was a very articulate witness. There was a genocide of Hindus in East Pakistan circa 1971------still survivors by way of Calcutta (well "'Kolkata"" now). Only an idiot would insist that genocides lead to TOTAL annihilation ROUTINELY. -----in fact it is rare. A somewhat rare example of TOTAL annihilation via genocide includes the Zoroastrian,
Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia. Comprehensive
excavation of cities like Mecca would elucidate the horrors that destroyed them. Don't hold your breath-----too many people don't WANT to know

At one time or another throughout history MOST tribes have faced defeats and mass losses of life; the "English" faced it, several times, the various Gaulic tribes of France, Spain, and Germany, Goths, Romans, Greeks, Persians, Indians, everybody, some more than once, some many times. There are always survivors, even among illiterate tribes, who wouldn't leave records. It would have to be a very small tribe all living in one small area to be completely wiped out. Most assimilate long before that.

yeah----that's about right. Only few have actually SURVIVED----literacy played a big role in identity survival

 

[anotherlife]

We protest against holocaust deniers. Then we deny all non Jew holocausts. This has never bothered anyone. Logic never counts, politics and history are always a 100 % emotion only business. And the masters of emotion control are the Jews. Hehehe.

Lifer-----how old were you when you KNEW about the Armenian genocide?
I grew up in a town CHOCK full of garbage like you. Not only were they taught -----by the light of the Christmas tree, to deny the german Christian murder of millions of jews-------NONE OF THEM EVER HEARD OF THE
TRAGEDY INFLICTED ON THE CHRISTIAN ARMENIAN either. My mom
told me about the Armenian tragedy when I was about seven or eight.
he he he he----how old were you? are you still an ignorant pile of shit?

All the genocides, be it true or false are anecdotal. Except the Jewish one. This can be explained by the fact that history is written by victors, not losers, be it true or lie. This is simply a universal fact, every school teaches that history is written by victors. So whatever victors invent is what happened. Don't you agree? By controlling the past, you control the future.

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

Rubbish. Few get completely genocided; even the Muslim bandits didn't kill everybody, and they were mostly illiterates anyway, and couldn't write anything, much less 'victory histories'. While I don't buy into the 'two thousand years of persecution' BS re Jews, it's a fact Hitler built several death camps specifically for the factory style murder of Jews, and most of their deaths were not "just the usual consequences of war" stuff at all, nor was the violence and killing when some tried to return their homes, leading the Allies to force survivors to remain in the camps for two years after the war was over.

And you're just wrong that 'nobody cares about the other massacres"; that's just you speaking of your own focus. Most people will be concerned about their own tragedies as a people, and Jewish people are no different. Would you claim the Irish are only concerned about their Famine deaths and nobody else's? Of course not.

Unfortunately it is the nation state and its controllers that decide who cares about which genocide and who is tasked with writing history.

 

[anotherlife]

Lifer-----how old were you when you KNEW about the Armenian genocide?
I grew up in a town CHOCK full of garbage like you. Not only were they taught -----by the light of the Christmas tree, to deny the german Christian murder of millions of jews-------NONE OF THEM EVER HEARD OF THE
TRAGEDY INFLICTED ON THE CHRISTIAN ARMENIAN either. My mom
told me about the Armenian tragedy when I was about seven or eight.
he he he he----how old were you? are you still an ignorant pile of shit?

All the genocides, be it true or false are anecdotal. Except the Jewish one. This can be explained by the fact that history is written by victors, not losers, be it true or lie. This is simply a universal fact, every school teaches that history is written by victors. So whatever victors invent is what happened. Don't you agree? By controlling the past, you control the future.

Not true; that's just an attempt to ignore facts that aren't comfortable for some. There are many histories out there not 'written by the victors', even from ancient times.

How can that be, when losers typically die off or get assimilated in a couple of generations?

the "the losers" do not "typically" die off or get assimilated in a
"couple of generations" MANY societies subjected to genocide survive-----more or less. The genocide in the UKRAINE is a classic example of SURVIVORS------no matter how Stalin tried. I wonder where the jerk who stated and the idiot who AGREED got the idea that genocides routinely DESTROY whole cultures without a trace. Long ago----I attended the deathbed of an elderly lady who saw her whole family wiped out in the 1915-17 Armenian genocide (she died circa 1975------she was a very articulate witness. There was a genocide of Hindus in East Pakistan circa 1971------still survivors by way of Calcutta (well "'Kolkata"" now). Only an idiot would insist that genocides lead to TOTAL annihilation ROUTINELY. -----in fact it is rare. A somewhat rare example of TOTAL annihilation via genocide includes the Zoroastrian,
Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia. Comprehensive
excavation of cities like Mecca would elucidate the horrors that destroyed them. Don't hold your breath-----too many people don't WANT to know

At one time or another throughout history MOST tribes have faced defeats and mass losses of life; the "English" faced it, several times, the various Gaulic tribes of France, Spain, and Germany, Goths, Romans, Greeks, Persians, Indians, everybody, some more than once, some many times. There are always survivors, even among illiterate tribes, who wouldn't leave records. It would have to be a very small tribe all living in one small area to be completely wiped out. Most assimilate long before that.

That's tribal warfare. The genocide problem is asymmetric, it is warfare between tribes and centralized national governments.

 

[Pellinore]

This thread is kind of going a different direction, but to the OP, one of my most respected people from history was a non-Jew who found himself in Auschwitz.

Maximilian Kolbe - Wikipedia

 

[irosie91]

he was an unknown and his death was wasted-----the ONE PERSON who should have died in Auschwitz was Pope Pius XII. That he chose to SAVE HIMSELF on the dead bodies of millions is his
black legacy

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

he was an unknown and his death was wasted-----the ONE PERSON who should have died in Auschwitz was Pope Pius XII. That he chose to SAVE HIMSELF on the dead bodies of millions is his
black legacy

You're very ill-informed, some sources say up to 860,000 Holocaust victims were saved by Vatican efforts of Pope Pius XII.

 

[irosie91]

he was an unknown and his death was wasted-----the ONE PERSON who should have died in Auschwitz was Pope Pius XII. That he chose to SAVE HIMSELF on the dead bodies of millions is his
black legacy

You're very ill-informed, some sources say up to 860,000 Holocaust victims were saved by Vatican efforts of Pope Pius XII.

some lie. There is no doubt that the Nazi effort in ITALY
was BY far less successful in Italy than it was in Poland---but
that phenomenon was a result of the VERY LIMITED COOPERATION
of the local population. There is also "evidence" that it was the
Vatican of Pius that aided lots of Nazi escape to South America.
Ever meet a surviving Italian jew? I have. Ever meet any
of the few surviving Polish jews? I have

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

he was an unknown and his death was wasted-----the ONE PERSON who should have died in Auschwitz was Pope Pius XII. That he chose to SAVE HIMSELF on the dead bodies of millions is his
black legacy

You're very ill-informed, some sources say up to 860,000 Holocaust victims were saved by Vatican efforts of Pope Pius XII.

some lie. There is no doubt that the Nazi effort in ITALY
was BY far less successful in Italy than it was in Poland---but
that phenomenon was a result of the VERY LIMITED COOPERATION
of the local population. There is also "evidence" that it was the
Vatican of Pius that aided lots of Nazi escape to South America.
Ever meet a surviving Italian jew? I have. Ever meet any
of the few surviving Polish jews? I have

Your grasp of history, is perhaps the worst on this forum, even worse than Blacks like Asclepias & Paul Essien.

Poles didn't control Auschwitz, nor did Pope Pius control Italy, doof.

Nazi Germany controlled Auschwitz, and it's first victims were Polish POW's.

As for Italy, they didn't go along much, if at all with the Holocaust.

Poland on the other hand, was conquered by Nazi Germany, you stupid Animal.

As for "Pope Pius" he didn't control Italy, nor did he have anything to do with the Holocaust.