NON-Obamacare in Florida cost $50/month..

[healthmyths]

Again the ignorance about Medicare is appalling on this board. I am an expert as my living comes from helping those 1.5 million providers GET PAID from Medicare 10,000 times a day!

And this phony statement about Medicare "efficiency" "1 percent figure" is because Medicare
processes NOT ONE SINGLE claim of the 1.2 billion that Medicare contractors process!

Want to see Medicare 'efficiency?

Explain to me why Medicare accepts from hospitals claims that are sometimes marked up over 6,000%???

Florida Hospital Tampa 3100 East Fletcher Avenue Tampa, FL 33613
In 2011 Hospital in Tampa sent Medicare 1,362 claims for CAT scan no contrast.
Each claim averaged $3,463, i.e. what the hospital billed Medicare...
The hospital's ACTUAL COSTS to perform the CAT SCAN was $57 a mark up 5,975.44%

ONE Acroynm EMTALA! A 1986 good feeling law passed that has snowballed health care costs to what is now and WHY
hospitals like the above SEND claims with sometimes 6,000% markups!!!!

So through your example YOU ARE NOW SAYING that the HOSPITALS are RIPPING Medicare off?

Its a game. the hospital bills $6000, then gives medicare a $5500 discount, then medicare pays the hospital $500. But the actual cost is less than $100.

Where are your facts for that?
My source for the above example is this:
All information in this report is taken from the Medicare Hospital OPPS Identifiable Data Set which is updated annually by CMS based on the service year (i.e. calendar year).
The file includes hospital outpatient billing data for 100% of all Medicare fee-for-service claims for outpatient services provided during the twelve months ending December 31.
OPPS Identifiable Data Set - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services

Provide sourcing before wild eyed, exaggerated stupid comments!

 

[Antares]

age 25 non smoker.. $50/month..

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Florida understands the value of for profit health insurance companies that nationally pay over $100 billion a year in taxes AFTER paying out 80% of premiums in claims paying salaries wages of 400,000 people that would all be put out of work and the rest of Americans making up the lost $100 billion a year in taxes IF OBAMA HAD his preferences. He prefers to put the 1,300 insurance companies out of business costing $100 billion in Federal/state/local and local property taxes while laying off 400,000 workers!
He said that!

Dec 31 EVERY participating Comoanies Underwriting Dept is unemployed, boom.

 

[healthmyths]

age 25 non smoker.. $50/month..

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Florida understands the value of for profit health insurance companies that nationally pay over $100 billion a year in taxes AFTER paying out 80% of premiums in claims paying salaries wages of 400,000 people that would all be put out of work and the rest of Americans making up the lost $100 billion a year in taxes IF OBAMA HAD his preferences. He prefers to put the 1,300 insurance companies out of business costing $100 billion in Federal/state/local and local property taxes while laying off 400,000 workers!
He said that!

READ the chart LINK that you posted healthMYTHS, $50 a month WITH A $10,000 DEDUCTIBLE FIRST....the person with this policy has to pay $50 a month PLUS $10,000 out of their own pocket a year, BEFORE their health care coverage would be PAID....

that's not health insurance, that's a SCAM!!!!

NO idiot! The person was 25 years OLD!
IDIOT they don't need to see a doctor every day!
They spend less then $1,000 out of pocket!
THIS IS CALLED CATASTROPHIC coverage dumb s...T!
And that is all a 25 year old NEEDS!

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

If the government can offer a plan cheaper than the private plans, then private plans will get cheaper...or go bankrupt.

I hope the government can do it.

Great that should help the economy and help raise unemployment. You are a bright one.

I don't understand.

If my insurance goes down, don't I (we all really), have more money to spend on the things which make our lives better?

Like in theory wouldn't more of our money be left to build tanks or cruise missiles or highways?

Fuck the big insurance companies. They can fucking downsize like so many businesses in the last 6 years have had to do and learn how to compete instead of monopolizing. Guess what building this is? No, not Buckingham Palace. It's Aetna in Hartford, CT.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

If the government can offer a plan cheaper than the private plans, then private plans will get cheaper...or go bankrupt.

I hope the government can do it.

I can guarantee you that they cannot.

 

[MeBelle]

age 25 non smoker.. $50/month..

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Point Of Service acronym has always cracked me up!

 

[MeBelle]

age 25 non smoker.. $50/month..

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Florida understands the value of for profit health insurance companies that nationally pay over $100 billion a year in taxes AFTER paying out 80% of premiums in claims paying salaries wages of 400,000 people that would all be put out of work and the rest of Americans making up the lost $100 billion a year in taxes IF OBAMA HAD his preferences. He prefers to put the 1,300 insurance companies out of business costing $100 billion in Federal/state/local and local property taxes while laying off 400,000 workers!
He said that!

"age 25 non smoker.. $50/month."

And in case you haven't been to Flori-DUH lately it's full of RETIRED people, dumbass.

And you should also read up on what is happening with United Healthcare and their fight with Florida's hospitals

Retiree's make up < 20% of Floridah's population.
Florida QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

United Healthcare and Aetna have already fled the State of California.

 

[Vox]

ONE Acroynm EMTALA! A 1986 good feeling law passed that has snowballed health care costs to what is now and WHY
hospitals like the above SEND claims with sometimes 6,000% markups!!!!

Yep.
Nobody wants to listen and everybody complains about "high healthcare cost"

If those, who pay have to pay for themselves and about 20 more people without insurance - that is why the cost is so high.

CT scan with contrast is billed by the average hospital about 8K, whereas the same CT scan of the abdominal cavity with contrast across the street in a private imaging facility which doesn't have the EMTALA burden costs 250$ in cash.
And the facility makes PROFIT.

If one wants to lower the costs - start with tort reform AND EMTALA!

 

[Vox]

Again the ignorance about Medicare is appalling on this board. I am an expert as my living comes from helping those 1.5 million providers GET PAID from Medicare 10,000 times a day!

And this phony statement about Medicare "efficiency" "1 percent figure" is because Medicare
processes NOT ONE SINGLE claim of the 1.2 billion that Medicare contractors process!

Want to see Medicare 'efficiency?

Explain to me why Medicare accepts from hospitals claims that are sometimes marked up over 6,000%???

Florida Hospital Tampa 3100 East Fletcher Avenue Tampa, FL 33613
In 2011 Hospital in Tampa sent Medicare 1,362 claims for CAT scan no contrast.
Each claim averaged $3,463, i.e. what the hospital billed Medicare...
The hospital's ACTUAL COSTS to perform the CAT SCAN was $57 a mark up 5,975.44%

ONE Acroynm EMTALA! A 1986 good feeling law passed that has snowballed health care costs to what is now and WHY
hospitals like the above SEND claims with sometimes 6,000% markups!!!!

So through your example YOU ARE NOW SAYING that the HOSPITALS are RIPPING Medicare off?

no, the EMTALA is