None of you are rich. Why are you defending billionaires?

[The T]

I for one am not defending Billionaires. If you want to raise taxes on billionaires cool, I am with you. What I want to make sure of is that people making between 200k a year and say about 800k a year are not over burdened, as this group includes the vast Majority of Small Businesses that employe most of us.

You guys like to play word game, you ask for tax increases on people making over 200k, and then say were defending Billionaires when we don't support it.

Why wouldn't you defend billionaires? What has any billionaire done the requires defending, worked hard and made a lot of money? Don't they have the same rights you have?

After we throw billionaires to the wolves, then they'll be coming after the millionaires and then the rest of us. Once you accept the principle that some people are sacrificial animals, then we all become fair game.

Was just trying to focus on the real Problem at hand. Which is Obama and Democrats trying to classify anyone who makes over 200k as "Millionaires and Billionaires".

Because they haven't invented the word thousandaires ?

 

[Oldstyle]

No one is under taxed...!!!!

The problem is in DC.....​

STOP THE GOD DAMNED SPENDING!!!!!!​

​

It's amazing. Our government took 2.15 Trillion dollars from the American people last year. And these politicians claim we haven't paid enough and refuse spend only what we have.

There is zero reason we shouldn't have a balanced budget this year.

When George W. Bush was appointed President in 2000 he inherited a well balanced budget with an appreciable projected surplus from the Clinton administration. Bush immediately went on a profligate spending spree which included conducting a major military engagement (the Iraq invasion and occupation) while he substantially lowered taxes on his "base" of "haves and have-mores" -- none of which he included in his budget.

That is why the budget is out of balance. It is well-known that lowering taxes while financing a war is economic suicide --

Starting a war while lowering taxes - Google Search

-- yet that, and more, is exactly what Bush did. So you need to learn some facts before laying blame.

Blaming W. for spending more money than Clinton would be like blaming FDR for spending more money than Hoover. Warfare costs money...big money. If you're a peacetime President then you're going to be able to take advantage of the so called 'peace dividend'.

 

[taichiliberal]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

I think the dummies that buy into this latest neocon/teabagger talking point and defend it on these boards are actually the stiffs who are paid by various GOP think tanks and Pacs to comb the internet and post the preposterous and convoluted BS we see now....either that or they are truly willfully ignornat fools who are smug that they haven't lost their job yet.

 

[Charles_Main]

Why wouldn't you defend billionaires? What has any billionaire done the requires defending, worked hard and made a lot of money? Don't they have the same rights you have?

After we throw billionaires to the wolves, then they'll be coming after the millionaires and then the rest of us. Once you accept the principle that some people are sacrificial animals, then we all become fair game.

Was just trying to focus on the real Problem at hand. Which is Obama and Democrats trying to classify anyone who makes over 200k as "Millionaires and Billionaires".

Because they haven't invented the word thousandaires ?

They do it, Because they know that a lot more Americans agree with putting extra Taxes on the Truly Super rich, than would agree if Obama simply said he wants to Raise taxes on anyone making over 200k. They do it because they can not sell their agenda with out lying about it. Period.

Just like how they keep trying to compare Capital gains Taxes Buffet pays (He could choose to give himself a salary instead and pay income taxes on it, he chooses to pay himself in Stock Options instead) To the Income tax his Secretary pays.

 

[uscitizen]

I know quite a few "very wealthy" people personally. They are ok folks and they pull their pants on the same way I do in the mornings. The only difference between us is they have more toys.

Money buys everything, not just toys. If your kid has an ugly smile - money can fix that.

Money can't fix stupid. As soon as the Democrats figure this out, we will be better off because they can start thinking about a realistic way to fix the mess they have created.

but money can make so that stupid does not matter as much.

I mean be so stupid that you issue/buy ninja finiancial packages and go bust and then get the taxpayers to bail you out.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

I think the dummies that buy into this latest neocon/teabagger talking point and defend it on these boards are actually the stiffs who are paid by various GOP think tanks and Pacs to comb the internet and post the preposterous and convoluted BS we see now....either that or they are truly willfully ignornat fools who are smug that they haven't lost their job yet.

Didn't obama bailout Goldman Sachs with our money? It was a repayment for their support and you fucking bought it.

Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor
Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor - CNN

 

[The T]

Was just trying to focus on the real Problem at hand. Which is Obama and Democrats trying to classify anyone who makes over 200k as "Millionaires and Billionaires".

Because they haven't invented the word thousandaires ?

They do it, Because they know that a lot more Americans agree with putting extra Taxes on the Truly Super rich, than would agree if Obama simply said he wants to Raise taxes on anyone making over 200k. They do it because they can not sell their agenda with out lying about it. Period.

Just like how they keep trying to compare Capital gains Taxes Buffet pays (He could choose to give himself a salary instead and pay income taxes on it, he chooses to pay himself in Stock Options instead) To the Income tax his Secretary pays.

Agreed which make the doddering old bufoon as big a fucking LIAR as Obama.

 

[Brutus]

Didn't obama bailout Goldman Sachs with our money? It was a repayment for their support and you fucking bought it.

of course Goldman and many many others were bailed out by Bush, Obama, Congress and the Fed. This was done to prevent a great depression. After the Bear Sterns /Lehman experience perhaps 97% of economists, as well as anyone with common sense, supported what was done to prevent a worldwide depression.

Your focus on Goldman borders on pure ignorance which is worse than being a mere conspiracy nut.

 

[rdean]

Are you really too stupid to understand the difference between a company continuing to function at a current level and risking capital to expand? Really? I remember living in a world as simple as yours, but I was 5 at the time.

Nowhere do you mention "supply and demand". Do you even know what those mean?

Sure do.

But EXPANSION is usually entered into based on the ANTICIPATION of an increase in demand.

In today's day and age of technology and international trade, you missed the boat if the demnand increases before you expand.

I am surpirsed that Obamas team of economists have not explained this to him.

If no one except the wealthy have any money, there is no "anticipation". I'm embarrassed to have to explain something so simple and easy to understand. Even business leaders are saying it's "demand" that's holding the economy back.

Hilarious you guys should think you're so smart and then prove over and over again, you aren't.

 

[rdean]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

I think the dummies that buy into this latest neocon/teabagger talking point and defend it on these boards are actually the stiffs who are paid by various GOP think tanks and Pacs to comb the internet and post the preposterous and convoluted BS we see now....either that or they are truly willfully ignornat fools who are smug that they haven't lost their job yet.

Didn't obama bailout Goldman Sachs with our money? It was a repayment for their support and you fucking bought it.

Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor
Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor - CNN

The money came from the employees. You know, the janitors, the secretaries, and all the other people that work there. The company itself gave to Republicans. Try to figure out why there's a difference and what that difference means.

 

[grunt11b]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

I think the better question would be, why is obama getting millions in campaign donations from billionaires while you "and obama alike" claim that billionaires are evil? Your messiah is playing you for a fool, and you buy it hook,line and sinker. Like the perfect little lib that you are. Did you notice at his state dinner the other night when it was a $38,000 a plate dinner for his campaign donation pot that he never once mentioned taxing the rich? A $38,000 a plate dinner, at the same time he is planning to tax the rich, and he never mentions it once. Of course you didn't notice, because those that are rich that attended will not be taxed or will not have to pay the $38,000 a plate fee, and that $38,000 a plate was paid for with stimulus money from 2 years ago "ever wonder where the other $300,000,000,000 went to?" , it's all about lining his re-election campaign, so those rich little fucks that attended "Who I have to reaffirm never paid the $38,000 from their own pocket because the tax payer stimulus took care of it" will cheer the messiah on for another 4 years of class warfare and misery. Will you re-elect him? If so, it's because you hate america, it's the only way anyone could re-elect him at this point.

 

[HenryBHough]

It's perfectly appropriate for those who have no ambition or inclination to become wealthy to take this side in class warfare.

But as the number of "wealthy" offshore themselves or just sit down and watch you really should be prepared to see your welfare checks become streamlined.

 

[Maple]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

I think the dummies that buy into this latest neocon/teabagger talking point and defend it on these boards are actually the stiffs who are paid by various GOP think tanks and Pacs to comb the internet and post the preposterous and convoluted BS we see now....either that or they are truly willfully ignornat fools who are smug that they haven't lost their job yet.

The constitution guaranteed an equal " opportunity" it did not guarantee an equal " outcome." Outcomes are determined by the individual, the individual's drive and ambition constitute failure or success, success is not determined by some government hand out with other people's money.

" The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher.

" Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the gospel of envy, the creed of ignorance, it's only virtue is the shared equality of misery." Winston Churchill.

BTW there are plenty of conservatives who have lost their jobs, they just don't sit in front of the TV and whine about it and look for handout's everywhere, they are out looking for another job. They also take anything they can get to get through this debaucle of a socialist agenda with a socialist for President.

 

[francoHFW]

#482- uNFORTUNATELY FOR YOUR STUPID BRAINWASHED THEORY, THERE Are JUST AS MANY pUBS AS DEMS ON WELFARE, ETC, if you count only whites...

 

[Conservative]

The constitution guaranteed an equal " opportunity" it did not guarantee an equal " outcome." Outcomes are determined by the individual, the individual's drive and ambition constitute failure or success, success is not determined by some government hand out with other people's money.

" The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher.

" Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the gospel of envy, the creed of ignorance, it's only virtue is the shared equality of misery." Winston Churchill.

BTW there are plenty of conservatives who have lost their jobs, they just don't sit in front of the TV and whine about it and look for handout's everywhere, they are out looking for another job. They also take anything they can get to get through this debacle of a socialist agenda with a socialist for President.

these.

 

[alan1]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

I think the dummies that buy into this latest neocon/teabagger talking point and defend it on these boards are actually the stiffs who are paid by various GOP think tanks and Pacs to comb the internet and post the preposterous and convoluted BS we see now....either that or they are truly willfully ignornat fools who are smug that they haven't lost their job yet.

You mean you aren't getting paid for your posts? *Gasp* I'm shocked I tell ya, shocked!

 

[Dot Com]

Because we're not petty, hand-wringing, covetous little looters.

Don't bring investment banks into this. You know, the reason Repubs want fin reform law repealed?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLx2Xc1EXLg]Sen. Levin Grills Goldman Sachs Exec On "Shitty Deal" E-mail - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[Gareyt17]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

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Defend them? What...All SEVEN of them??? That's right nimrod..there are ONLY seven US citizens who are billionaires...so go ahead, tax em..take ALL their money.....it won't make a dent in the US debt or deficits....

AND then you will be here screaming about the millionaires and then the thousand aires.....pretty soon, they will come for YOUR measly pennies!

btw...nobody will be left then to defend you

 

[francoHFW]

We're talking about 4% fcs.

 

[francoHFW]

ooops- maybe 10%- now we're getting somewhere!! Maybe we can stop the country from falling apart for a change...