None of you are rich. Why are you defending billionaires?

That being the case, with the Bush tax cuts still in effect, we should be at full employment should we not?

No. Taxes are just one facet. Another is reasonable regulations. Obama has created a hostile and unstable environment to business where they have nothing to hang their hat on. They will continue to hold what they have until they feel comfortable enough to start taking risks again. Businesses take calculated risks, they are not gambling addicts.

And yet, since Obama has been president, business profits have never been so high. Go figure.

Are you really too stupid to understand the difference between a company continuing to function at a current level and risking capital to expand? Really? I remember living in a world as simple as yours, but I was 5 at the time.
 
No. Taxes are just one facet. Another is reasonable regulations. Obama has created a hostile and unstable environment to business where they have nothing to hang their hat on. They will continue to hold what they have until they feel comfortable enough to start taking risks again. Businesses take calculated risks, they are not gambling addicts.

And yet, since Obama has been president, business profits have never been so high. Go figure.

Are you really too stupid to understand the difference between a company continuing to function at a current level and risking capital to expand? Really? I remember living in a world as simple as yours, but I was 5 at the time.

Nowhere do you mention "supply and demand". Do you even know what those mean?
 
Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

I've been out of town all day and am too lazy to wade through 24 pages of posts, so I'll cut to the chase on these two comments...

Republicans never apolgized to BP.

Oil companies do not receive subsidies.

Oil companies pay less in U.S. taxes in part because they receive generous tax subsidies. These subsidies will cost the U.S. government about $3 billion next year in lost revenue and nearly $20 billion over the next five years.

Tax expenditures are government spending through the tax code. They are distributed through deductions, exclusions, credits, exemptions, preferential tax rates, and deferrals. What makes them look different from grants or checks is that they are delivered through the tax code as part of tax expenditure spending programs.

These tax expenditures can amount to a significant portion of federal subsidies for oil and gas. The cost of tax expenditure programs for oil and gas companies made up about 88 percent of total federal subsidies in 2006.

Pumping Tax Dollars to Big Oil

Hilarious.

After Joe Barton's famous apology to BP, Republicans made him head of the "Energy Committee".

But, but, but, they never happened.

Not in the Republican World of the Bizarro.
 
And yet, since Obama has been president, business profits have never been so high. Go figure.

Are you really too stupid to understand the difference between a company continuing to function at a current level and risking capital to expand? Really? I remember living in a world as simple as yours, but I was 5 at the time.

Nowhere do you mention "supply and demand". Do you even know what those mean?

Sure do.

But EXPANSION is usually entered into based on the ANTICIPATION of an increase in demand.

In today's day and age of technology and international trade, you missed the boat if the demnand increases before you expand.

I am surpirsed that Obamas team of economists have not explained this to him.
 
And yet, since Obama has been president, business profits have never been so high. Go figure.

Are you really too stupid to understand the difference between a company continuing to function at a current level and risking capital to expand? Really? I remember living in a world as simple as yours, but I was 5 at the time.

Nowhere do you mention "supply and demand". Do you even know what those mean?

Well, in a round about way you did just answer the question about how stupid you are. Obviously if a company is making record profits, they are already keeping up with demand. They won't expand unless there is a need and even then, it all depends on what the return on their investment will be. If they build a new plant in a state with right to work laws and the gubmint tries to block them from opening in order to benefit their union bosses, the company has just spent a wad of money on nothing. Now you might take your paycheck down to the local casino and blow it in a couple of hours, but businesses don't operate that way.......at least not for very long.
 
The same reason the right hates the poor. The illusion that they are coasting along not pulling their own considerable weight while having every imaginable advantage showered upon them.

The right does more to help the poor than the left ever dreamed of doing. The right walks their talk on the left just talks. The right gives more to charitable organizations than the left ever did. Check the charitable contributions of Obama as compared to Bush- it's striking, then compare Cheney's to Bidens. There you will find your answer and it most certainly does not support your supposition.
So you too are willing to stand against any cuts to HUD or WIC! That's a grand piece of thinking, as my Grandfather would say. Friends of the poor, you and I.

Why do leftist twits hear "help the poor" and immediately translate it into "get the government to give them money"?
 
Asserting that rdean speaks for "liberals" in general would be the same as me stating that USArmyRetired speaks for "conservatives" in general.

you said you don't know "ANY" ...nice attempt at a dodge though.
And I lol at your stupidity as any rational man with a sense of humor would do.

Another rational, informative argument. You're representing your side very well.

Coming from Mr. "Everything is about me personally", that doesn't mean much.

Did you have to take special classes to be that self-absorbed?
 
Are you really too stupid to understand the difference between a company continuing to function at a current level and risking capital to expand? Really? I remember living in a world as simple as yours, but I was 5 at the time.

Nowhere do you mention "supply and demand". Do you even know what those mean?

Well, in a round about way you did just answer the question about how stupid you are. Obviously if a company is making record profits, they are already keeping up with demand. They won't expand unless there is a need and even then, it all depends on what the return on their investment will be. If they build a new plant in a state with right to work laws and the gubmint tries to block them from opening in order to benefit their union bosses, the company has just spent a wad of money on nothing. Now you might take your paycheck down to the local casino and blow it in a couple of hours, but businesses don't operate that way.......at least not for very long.


Obama is on record saying that if anyone opens a coal plant, he'll bankrupt them:

So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.

Obama: We’ll bankrupt any new coal plants « Hot Air


His attitude is not just limited to coal. Witness what is being done to Boeing. Investors and companies are paying attention to this. They are not going to invest in the U.S. while there is no respect on the part of the Obama Administratio for the Rule of Law, Contracts, and Property Rights.
 
If that were true, you would have to be against each and every tax, and we both know that can never be. You're against having every earner pay a fair portion in taxation.

"Fair" would be for every wage earner to pay taxes. "Fair" would be when our taxes are raised, "handouts" are cut by the same percentage/amount. The top 25% of wage earners pay over 75% of income taxes in this country. How is that "fair"?
The top 500 richest Americans control more wealth than the bottom 50% of wage earners combined. How is that fair? That's how things are run in Rwanda. The bottom wage earners scramble from day to day actually producing while the absolute minority gets the money.

If you raise taxes on the lower income wage earners, you diminish their capacity to spend. there are many more in the bottom percentages of wage earners than, obviously, the absolute richest. How can the rich create demand? They are too few in number to consume enough goods to open new means of production. The lower wage earners represent the vast majority of consumers. Consumer spending drives demand. And demand drives job growth.

If you have to have the difference between the US and Rwanda spelled out and explained to you, then you're too willfully pig-stupid to even be worth the air it would take to talk to you.
 
None of you are rich. Why are you defending billionaires?

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.


Martin Niemöller

.
 
I know quite a few "very wealthy" people personally. They are ok folks and they pull their pants on the same way I do in the mornings. The only difference between us is they have more toys.
 
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None of you are rich. Why are you defending billionaires?

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.


Martin Niemöller

.

Kind of blows the theory that Hitler was a liberal...:lol::lol::lol:

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians
 
"Fair" would be for every wage earner to pay taxes. "Fair" would be when our taxes are raised, "handouts" are cut by the same percentage/amount. The top 25% of wage earners pay over 75% of income taxes in this country. How is that "fair"?
The top 500 richest Americans control more wealth than the bottom 50% of wage earners combined. How is that fair? That's how things are run in Rwanda. The bottom wage earners scramble from day to day actually producing while the absolute minority gets the money.

If you raise taxes on the lower income wage earners, you diminish their capacity to spend. there are many more in the bottom percentages of wage earners than, obviously, the absolute richest. How can the rich create demand? They are too few in number to consume enough goods to open new means of production. The lower wage earners represent the vast majority of consumers. Consumer spending drives demand. And demand drives job growth.

If you have to have the difference between the US and Rwanda spelled out and explained to you, then you're too willfully pig-stupid to even be worth the air it would take to talk to you.
Why? In Rwanda, the very few own everything while the very many own nothing. If the wealth of the United States continues to be consolidated among the very few, what, pray tell, could possibly make the difference between the system in Rwanda and the system here?

How did the wealth get so concentrated among the very few here? Take a hint: Supply Side Economic policies.
 
The right does more to help the poor than the left ever dreamed of doing. The right walks their talk on the left just talks. The right gives more to charitable organizations than the left ever did. Check the charitable contributions of Obama as compared to Bush- it's striking, then compare Cheney's to Bidens. There you will find your answer and it most certainly does not support your supposition.
So you too are willing to stand against any cuts to HUD or WIC! That's a grand piece of thinking, as my Grandfather would say. Friends of the poor, you and I.

Why do leftist twits hear "help the poor" and immediately translate it into "get the government to give them money"?

Because it's an effective way to help the poor.
 
None of you are rich. Why are you defending billionaires?

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.


Martin Niemöller

.

Kind of blows the theory that Hitler was a liberal...:lol::lol::lol:

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Government Control Freaks come in many flavors. The Trait they share is ultimate control, cradle to grave, 24/7. Hitler, Mao, Lenon, The DNC, you. :D
 
None of you are rich. Why are you defending billionaires?

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.


Martin Niemöller

.
Raising the marginal tax rate on the very wealthy does not make the threshold of atrocity. But political hyperbole is sure fun to spout, ain't it? It not only reveals precisely how intelligent the hyperbole spouter is, along with all those who cheer him on, but it deepens the political divide that most people find boorish at best, untenable at worst.
 
Nowhere do you mention "supply and demand". Do you even know what those mean?

Well, in a round about way you did just answer the question about how stupid you are. Obviously if a company is making record profits, they are already keeping up with demand. They won't expand unless there is a need and even then, it all depends on what the return on their investment will be. If they build a new plant in a state with right to work laws and the gubmint tries to block them from opening in order to benefit their union bosses, the company has just spent a wad of money on nothing. Now you might take your paycheck down to the local casino and blow it in a couple of hours, but businesses don't operate that way.......at least not for very long.


Obama is on record saying that if anyone opens a coal plant, he'll bankrupt them:

So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.

Obama: We’ll bankrupt any new coal plants « Hot Air


His attitude is not just limited to coal. Witness what is being done to Boeing. Investors and companies are paying attention to this. They are not going to invest in the U.S. while there is no respect on the part of the Obama Administratio for the Rule of Law, Contracts, and Property Rights.

Yah yah, Obama is on record for saying many things like gettting us out of Iraq, etc.'
Just as bush was on record for balanced budgets and smaller govt.

Obama will not bankrupt a new coal plant. One is soon to go online in SW viargina at St. Paul.
 
If you are 'not' fighting for the middle class, you are fighting against America.

"It took eight years of Republican Rule to get America into this mess, so it may take that long for the Democrats to dig us out."

Well the Dems had total control for two years. All it means is they can screw things up in 1/4th the time (as the GOP).
 
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