Not Another Assault Car Killing!

Father intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police

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A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.

Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.

Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."

Why isn't anyone blaming the car?

If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
Yes, conservatives are truly this stupid.

You like Cars killing people?
 
Father intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police

"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.

Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.

Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."

Why isn't anyone blaming the car?

If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
We have common sense laws for automobiles. There are speed limits, licensing requirements, competency tests, insurance requirements and age restrictions.

Maybe that's why scenarios such as the one you outlined here are relatively rare.

Perhaps we should use these same common sense regulations on guns in order to make mass shootings rarer.

And wow, those common sense laws prevented this from happening!

Good thing we had common sense car laws, or he might have really hurt someone.

Yo, lefty.... the point is, yeah we do have those laws, and it didn't stop anything.

The solution isn't more laws. The solution is enforcement of the laws we have. If people are not afraid of getting put to death for murder... breaking a few car laws... or breaking a few gun laws... isn't going to stop them.

Just like this guy wasn't thinking "oh I better not run my family over, because that would violate a automobile law"..... similarly no one willing to shoot people is going to think "oh I better not go on a killing spree because that would violate a gun law".
Maybe you have realized that laws are not enacted to prevent anything. Laws are enacted to punish crimes.

By your logic, laws are useless and should be abolished.

By the way, the kid in Texas was a law abiding citizen right up to the point he began pulling a trigger.

You idiots allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good.

The ridiculous laws are the ones that take away the protection of the law abiding weak and encourages the evil strong.

That's likely why the rape statistics in England and Australia are skyrocketing.
They are? Link that info so I can read up on it.
 
Um....... you do know that for the first 100 years of this country, and in fact, not even 60 years ago, that was normal.

You really don't know this? Kids used to bring their guns on the school buss, and then hop off and go hunting after school.

In fact, there were school shooting clubs, and kids brought their guns to school.

You people really have no idea about the history of guns in this country?

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High school rifle club for girls. 1941.

Guns in school were normal.... and it was almost unheard of that students shot each other.

The problem today is not guns. That's idiotic.

The problem today is, G-d is dead, and morality is relative, and there is no 'evil'. People have no absolute standard of right and wrong, and we justify bad behavior. That's the problem.

I've seen some dumb posts from you today, but this ^ takes the cake. :rolleyes-41:

Billy, don't forget your lunchbox and Ruger ..

And if that bully kid tries to take your lunch money again - show him what's what!


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At least we require training, passing of tests, registration and licensing of the cars.

Dude passed them all, and still killed using the car.

What exactly is your point?

My point is that if we required the same on guns, there would be fewer situations such as the one we had on Friday.

Trying to remember the last time we had an automotive mow-down at a school.

Wait, it obviously doesn't work with cars. The death rate by trained, licensed and regulated cars are higher than those that own a gun.
Please post a factual, objective evidence link for your claim.
 
Father intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police

"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.

Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.

Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."

Why isn't anyone blaming the car?

If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
Yes, conservatives are truly this stupid.

You like Cars killing people?
Sure. Doesn't everyone?
 
But you are the one wanting speculation.

Do you have ANY evidence that these school shooters, lacking the ability to acquire a gun, would not have just used a car to run down a large group of children waiting at a bus stop, or dozens of other locations they gather before or after school.

No?

Didn't think so.

And yet - It hasn't happened. Fancy that!

You realize that you didn't deny it couldn't happen, just that it hadn't?

Should I repost the link to the women, not having access to a gun, decided to commit suicide by driving the wrong way down a freeway? She surived, but killed 7. Ironically she survived.

Had she used a gun. She dies, 7 live.

Crazy shit, right?
 
Father intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police

"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.

Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.

Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."

Why isn't anyone blaming the car?

If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
Yes, conservatives are truly this stupid.

You like Cars killing people?
Sure. Doesn't everyone?

I know you do.
 
Laws are enacted to punish, not to deter.

If you are executed, you will not commit the crime again.
 
At least we require training, passing of tests, registration and licensing of the cars.

Dude passed them all, and still killed using the car.

What exactly is your point?

My point is that if we required the same on guns, there would be fewer situations such as the one we had on Friday.

Trying to remember the last time we had an automotive mow-down at a school.

Wait, it obviously doesn't work with cars. The death rate by trained, licensed and regulated cars are higher than those that own a gun.
Please post a factual, objective evidence link for your claim.

He has none - One school shooting a week this year and zero school murders by motor vehicle.

Can't fix stupid
 
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Still doesn't matter. If you ban the weapon, they'll just get the weapon illegally. In fact, most guns committed in crimes are not acquired through legal channels already.

You want to stop shootings? Let people defend themselves.

Oh - So now you advocate arming school children?

GREAT idea :rolleyes:


You don't believe school children have a right to defend themselves?
 
At least we require training, passing of tests, registration and licensing of the cars.

Dude passed them all, and still killed using the car.

What exactly is your point?

My point is that if we required the same on guns, there would be fewer situations such as the one we had on Friday.

Trying to remember the last time we had an automotive mow-down at a school.

Wait, it obviously doesn't work with cars. The death rate by trained, licensed and regulated cars are higher than those that own a gun.
Please post a factual, objective evidence link for your claim.

OK, it's a statistical tie:

FastStats

Did you want to raise the total death rate. Obviously those with all that training are no less likely than those without. So statistically, the amount of training did not decrease the rate?
 
OK, it's a statistical tie:

FastStats

Did you want to raise the total death rate. Obviously those with all that training are no less likely than those without. So statistically, the amount of training did not decrease the rate?

Nope - still waiting for a school murder by motor vehicle this year - Hell, go back 5 years if you'd like.

Meanwhile, twice as many kids have been killed with guns at school in 2018 than all our war fatalities worldwide.

Twice as many Americans have died in school shootings than at war in 2018, data shows
 
At least we require training, passing of tests, registration and licensing of the cars.

Dude passed them all, and still killed using the car.

What exactly is your point?

My point is that if we required the same on guns, there would be fewer situations such as the one we had on Friday.

Trying to remember the last time we had an automotive mow-down at a school.

Wait, it obviously doesn't work with cars. The death rate by trained, licensed and regulated cars are higher than those that own a gun.
Please post a factual, objective evidence link for your claim.

He has none - One school shooting a week this year and zero school murders by motor vehicle.

Can't fix stupid

OOPS: IT CAN HAPPEN. ESPECIALLY IN COUNTRIES THAT BANNED GUNS!

Australia: Car deliberately plows into crowd in Melbourne - CNN

"A 10-year-old girl and a three-month-old baby boy were among five people killed when a driver deliberately ran over pedestrians in a busy street in central Melbourne on Friday.

Photos from the scene showed wreckage of a baby's pram atop the car's bonnet, as emergency workers attended to injured people nearby on the ground.
Two men and a woman aged 25, 33 and 32 respectively, were among those killed, a spokeswoman for Victoria police confirmed. The 3-month-old had been in a critical condition early on Saturday before passing away later that evening."

Next?
 
"NOT ANOTHER ASSAULT CAR KILLING!"
Correct, as there are no assault cars, this was not only not another, there have never been any.
 
OOPS: IT CAN HAPPEN. ESPECIALLY IN COUNTRIES THAT BANNED GUNS!

Australia: Car deliberately plows into crowd in Melbourne - CNN

"A 10-year-old girl and a three-month-old baby boy were among five people killed when a driver deliberately ran over pedestrians in a busy street in central Melbourne on Friday.

Photos from the scene showed wreckage of a baby's pram atop the car's bonnet, as emergency workers attended to injured people nearby on the ground.
Two men and a woman aged 25, 33 and 32 respectively, were among those killed, a spokeswoman for Victoria police confirmed. The 3-month-old had been in a critical condition early on Saturday before passing away later that evening."

Next?

Sorry - Do not pass GO .. do not collect $200

Looking for SCHOOL MURDERS by motor vehicle in the US.

If you need ten years to find one, be my guest!
 
Father intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police

"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.

Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.

Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."

Why isn't anyone blaming the car?

If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
We need stricter car laws.
We need to keep cars out of the hands of the insane and pre-schoolers.
And we need a ban on all assault-vehicles.
 
OK, it's a statistical tie:

FastStats

Did you want to raise the total death rate. Obviously those with all that training are no less likely than those without. So statistically, the amount of training did not decrease the rate?

Nope - still waiting for a school murder by motor vehicle this year - Hell, go back 5 years if you'd like.

Meanwhile, twice as many kids have been killed with guns at school in 2018 than all our war fatalities worldwide.

Twice as many Americans have died in school shootings than at war in 2018, data shows
OK, it's a statistical tie:

FastStats

Did you want to raise the total death rate. Obviously those with all that training are no less likely than those without. So statistically, the amount of training did not decrease the rate?

Nope - still waiting for a school murder by motor vehicle this year - Hell, go back 5 years if you'd like.

Meanwhile, twice as many kids have been killed with guns at school in 2018 than all our war fatalities worldwide.

Twice as many Americans have died in school shootings than at war in 2018, data shows

So, according to this that number is dwarfed by the number of teen suicides attributed to SSRI use:

Antidepressants can raise the risk of suicide, biggest ever review finds

An analysis of 70 trials of the most common antidepressants - involving more than 18,000 people - found they doubled the risk of suicide and aggressive behaviour in under 18s.

So, not only are they associated with use by mass shooters, they may also drive up the teen suicide rate

a lose/lose if you ask me.
 
OOPS: IT CAN HAPPEN. ESPECIALLY IN COUNTRIES THAT BANNED GUNS!

Australia: Car deliberately plows into crowd in Melbourne - CNN

"A 10-year-old girl and a three-month-old baby boy were among five people killed when a driver deliberately ran over pedestrians in a busy street in central Melbourne on Friday.

Photos from the scene showed wreckage of a baby's pram atop the car's bonnet, as emergency workers attended to injured people nearby on the ground.
Two men and a woman aged 25, 33 and 32 respectively, were among those killed, a spokeswoman for Victoria police confirmed. The 3-month-old had been in a critical condition early on Saturday before passing away later that evening."

Next?

Sorry - Do not pass GO .. do not collect $200

Looking for SCHOOL MURDERS by motor vehicle in the US.

If you need ten years to find one, be my guest!

In cafeterias, or gymnasiums?

God you are lame.
 
In cafeterias, or gymnasiums?

God you are lame.

Nope - Ever seen the main drag outside of a large high school right after the last bell rings?

I do - at any given time between my high school and the parking lot there would be 200 kids IN THE STREET.

Doesn't have to be on campus.

Shoot, I'll even include a large school bus stop off campus.

Hurry - GO!
 

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