Not Another Assault Car Killing!

In cafeterias, or gymnasiums?

God you are lame.

Nope - Ever seen the main drag outside of a large high school right after the last bell rings?

I do - at any given time between my high school and the parking lot there would be 200 kids IN THE STREET.

Doesn't have to be on campus.

Shoot, I'll even include a large school bus stop off campus.

Hurry - GO!

You speculated because it has never happen, it never could. So you additionally speculate that a gun is a requirement to a mass killing. You have been proven wrong. This women in my link, wanting to commit mass murder but lacking a gun, found another way. It is instinctive in Killers, they kill, they simply don't care what tools are availed them. They find a way.

Just like the one posted in my link.

Do you have a link showing that it would not be possible?
 
You speculated because it has never happen, it never could. So you additionally speculate that a gun is a requirement to a mass killing. You have been proven wrong. This women in my link, wanting to commit mass murder but lacking a gun, found another way. It is instinctive in Killers, they kill, they simply don't care what tools are availed them. They find a way.

Just like the one posted in my link.

Do you have a link showing that it would not be possible?

Yes, well someone could drop a bomb from a hot air balloon during a fire drill and kill dozens of kids.

Just because it has never happened, doesn't mean that it couldn't!

Do you always employ tortured logic?
 
Father intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police

"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.

Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.

Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."

Why isn't anyone blaming the car?

If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
We have common sense laws for automobiles. There are speed limits, licensing requirements, competency tests, insurance requirements and age restrictions.

Maybe that's why scenarios such as the one you outlined here are relatively rare.

Perhaps we should use these same common sense regulations on guns in order to make mass shootings rarer.

Mind if I ask, which one of those common sense laws for automobiles you mentioned above would prevent this killing?
 
You speculated because it has never happen, it never could. So you additionally speculate that a gun is a requirement to a mass killing. You have been proven wrong. This women in my link, wanting to commit mass murder but lacking a gun, found another way. It is instinctive in Killers, they kill, they simply don't care what tools are availed them. They find a way.

Just like the one posted in my link.

Do you have a link showing that it would not be possible?

Yes, well someone could drop a bomb from a hot air balloon during a fire drill and kill dozens of kids.

Just because it has never happened, doesn't mean that it couldn't!

Do you always employ tortured logic?

There was no logic used whatsoever.

You're logic was, minus a gun, a mass killing could not happen.

I posted a link, from a country that banned guns, showing just how a practical killer reacts to such bans. They drive down crowds of people.

If there is tortured logic at play, it appears to be yours.
 
A license to drive is not a license to kill.

And a gun license would not be a license to kill as well. Was that the point?

Someone claiming an insanity defense could claim it is.

They can claim anything they want. It wouldn't work.

It could spare them the death penalty though.

Not seeing the logic. But Okay, I'm game
 
Father intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police

"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.

Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.

Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."

Why isn't anyone blaming the car?

If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
We have common sense laws for automobiles. There are speed limits, licensing requirements, competency tests, insurance requirements and age restrictions.

Maybe that's why scenarios such as the one you outlined here are relatively rare.

Perhaps we should use these same common sense regulations on guns in order to make mass shootings rarer.

Mind if I ask, which one of those common sense laws for automobiles you mentioned above would prevent this killing?
Law is not panacea. Name one law that prevents crime. Laws do, however, reduce crime. Can you dispute that speed limits reduce highway fatalities? Can you deny that seat belt laws reduce automobile deaths?

No law PREVENTS crime from happening. Laws DO reduce unnecessary hazards.
 
I have not seen any school murders committed by car. That is the only equivalency (cars vs. guns) that counts in school murders.
 
Gun laws decrease not eliminate gun murders: flat fact. And significantly so.
 
Father intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police

"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.

Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.

Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."

Why isn't anyone blaming the car?

If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
We have common sense laws for automobiles. There are speed limits, licensing requirements, competency tests, insurance requirements and age restrictions.

Maybe that's why scenarios such as the one you outlined here are relatively rare.

Perhaps we should use these same common sense regulations on guns in order to make mass shootings rarer.

Mind if I ask, which one of those common sense laws for automobiles you mentioned above would prevent this killing?
Law is not panacea. Name one law that prevents crime. Laws do, however, reduce crime. Can you dispute that speed limits reduce highway fatalities? Can you deny that seat belt laws reduce automobile deaths?

No law PREVENTS crime from happening. Laws DO reduce unnecessary hazards.

So what unnecessary hazard? You are relying on and ideal. That being that a gun is a required to Murder. Completely untrue as I posted earlier.

Why would you argue against legal, law abiding citizens, and on behalf of those who would use an unarmed society as targets?
 
Father intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police

"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.

Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.

Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."

Why isn't anyone blaming the car?

If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
We have common sense laws for automobiles. There are speed limits, licensing requirements, competency tests, insurance requirements and age restrictions.

Maybe that's why scenarios such as the one you outlined here are relatively rare.

Perhaps we should use these same common sense regulations on guns in order to make mass shootings rarer.

Mind if I ask, which one of those common sense laws for automobiles you mentioned above would prevent this killing?
Law is not panacea. Name one law that prevents crime. Laws do, however, reduce crime. Can you dispute that speed limits reduce highway fatalities? Can you deny that seat belt laws reduce automobile deaths?

No law PREVENTS crime from happening. Laws DO reduce unnecessary hazards.

Great. Name gun laws that is respected by criminals? How about you name gun law that's respected by non criminals?

The way I see it, only way to reduce gun crimes without infringing on constitutional rights is to increase punishment for the gun crimes.

Make it mandatory 20 years for any gun crime, and 30 to life for any murder with a gun.
 
You speculated because it has never happen, it never could. So you additionally speculate that a gun is a requirement to a mass killing. You have been proven wrong. This women in my link, wanting to commit mass murder but lacking a gun, found another way. It is instinctive in Killers, they kill, they simply don't care what tools are availed them. They find a way.

Just like the one posted in my link.

Do you have a link showing that it would not be possible?

Yes, well someone could drop a bomb from a hot air balloon during a fire drill and kill dozens of kids.

Just because it has never happened, doesn't mean that it couldn't!

Do you always employ tortured logic?

There was no logic used whatsoever.

You're logic was, minus a gun, a mass killing could not happen.

I posted a link, from a country that banned guns, showing just how a practical killer reacts to such bans. They drive down crowds of people.

If there is tortured logic at play, it appears to be yours.
Is there any correlation between the number of guns in America and the number of shootings in Americ
Father intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police

"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.

Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.

Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."

Why isn't anyone blaming the car?

If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
We have common sense laws for automobiles. There are speed limits, licensing requirements, competency tests, insurance requirements and age restrictions.

Maybe that's why scenarios such as the one you outlined here are relatively rare.

Perhaps we should use these same common sense regulations on guns in order to make mass shootings rarer.

Mind if I ask, which one of those common sense laws for automobiles you mentioned above would prevent this killing?
Law is not panacea. Name one law that prevents crime. Laws do, however, reduce crime. Can you dispute that speed limits reduce highway fatalities? Can you deny that seat belt laws reduce automobile deaths?

No law PREVENTS crime from happening. Laws DO reduce unnecessary hazards.

So what unnecessary hazard? You are relying on and ideal. That being that a gun is a required to Murder. Completely untrue as I posted earlier.

Why would you argue against legal, law abiding citizens, and on behalf of those who would use an unarmed society as targets?
an unnecessary hazard is Sandy Hook where a deranged person got his mother's AR-15 and killed her, then 26 kids and himself. An unnecessary hazard is Santa Fe Texas where another deranged person got his father's arsenal and killed ten more. An unnecessary hazard is Aurora, Colorado where a deranged person managed to shoulder an assault rifle and shoot up a crowded, dark movie theater.

How did these weapons get into these hands? Was that necessary? Was it necessary to have such weaponry at home unsecured?
 

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