Nothing generates unemployment like liberal policy

[edthecynic]

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

A perfect example of how the Right LIES!

You could hardly figure out whether that 42% is a positive result of the Obama economy or the negative result as implied, without knowing the rate at the time Obama took office. And knowing what worthless lying scum the Right are I knew the Jan 2009 rate was left out on purpose, so I looked it up! And sure enough the "result of the Obama economy" was a 420% IMPROVEMENT over 2009. That's right, Bush left with a 10% Gallup Good Jobs Rate!!!!!

Professional liars tell just enough "truth" to mislead, .... and then shut up, which is why the Right are the lowest lying scum of all the worthless lying scum!!!!!!!

U.S. Quality Job Outlook in 2015 Best Since 2007

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

A perfect example of how the Right LIES!

You could hardly figure out whether that 42% is a positive result of the Obama economy or the negative result as implied, without knowing the rate at the time Obama took office. And knowing what worthless lying scum the Right are I knew the Jan 2009 rate was left out on purpose, so I looked it up! And sure enough the "result of the Obama economy" was a 420% IMPROVEMENT over 2009. That's right, Bush left with a 10% Gallup Good Jobs Rate!!!!!

Professional liars tell just enough "truth" to mislead, .... and then shut up, which is why the Right are the lowest lying scum of all the worthless lying scum!!!!!!!

U.S. Quality Job Outlook in 2015 Best Since 2007

Here's the problem with the left. They want to look at only one small segment of statistical information, that is if they don't otherwise site a commentary blog, and think they have an overall picture of how the job market is doing. When in fact, to accurately determine the state of the nation's economy you need to be willing to look at several pieces of information and take them collectively as a whole to be effective in determining how the economy is actually doing. You honestly think one website that slants to your particular view of one particular small segment of the economy is going to outweigh several sources of information that gives a more general overdue of how strong our economy is? You have students graduating from both college and high school favoring better in 2007 than near the end of Obama's term, and that's just one small part of the economy without going into how the public and the private sector have been effected by the Obamacare mandate. There's a lot more to a true economic outlook than just one web site.

 

[Faun]

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

A perfect example of how the Right LIES!

You could hardly figure out whether that 42% is a positive result of the Obama economy or the negative result as implied, without knowing the rate at the time Obama took office. And knowing what worthless lying scum the Right are I knew the Jan 2009 rate was left out on purpose, so I looked it up! And sure enough the "result of the Obama economy" was a 420% IMPROVEMENT over 2009. That's right, Bush left with a 10% Gallup Good Jobs Rate!!!!!

Professional liars tell just enough "truth" to mislead, .... and then shut up, which is why the Right are the lowest lying scum of all the worthless lying scum!!!!!!!

U.S. Quality Job Outlook in 2015 Best Since 2007

Here's the problem with the left. They want to look at only one small segment of statistical information, that is if they don't otherwise site a commentary blog, and think they have an overall picture of how the job market is doing. When in fact, to accurately determine the state of the nation's economy you need to be willing to look at several pieces of information and take them collectively as a whole to be effective in determining how the economy is actually doing. You honestly think one website that slants to your particular view of one particular small segment of the economy is going to outweigh several sources of information that gives a more general overdue of how strong our economy is? You have students graduating from both college and high school favoring better in 2007 than near the end of Obama's term, and that's just one small part of the economy without going into how the public and the private sector have been effected by the Obamacare mandate. There's a lot more to a true economic outlook than just one web site.

Holyfuckingshit!

Ed was looking at the data you posted. Using the data you posted, he showed how much we've improved under Obama.

 

[edthecynic]

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

A perfect example of how the Right LIES!

You could hardly figure out whether that 42% is a positive result of the Obama economy or the negative result as implied, without knowing the rate at the time Obama took office. And knowing what worthless lying scum the Right are I knew the Jan 2009 rate was left out on purpose, so I looked it up! And sure enough the "result of the Obama economy" was a 420% IMPROVEMENT over 2009. That's right, Bush left with a 10% Gallup Good Jobs Rate!!!!!

Professional liars tell just enough "truth" to mislead, .... and then shut up, which is why the Right are the lowest lying scum of all the worthless lying scum!!!!!!!

U.S. Quality Job Outlook in 2015 Best Since 2007

Here's the problem with the left. They want to look at only one small segment of statistical information, that is if they don't otherwise site a commentary blog, and think they have an overall picture of how the job market is doing. When in fact, to accurately determine the state of the nation's economy you need to be willing to look at several pieces of information and take them collectively as a whole to be effective in determining how the economy is actually doing. You honestly think one website that slants to your particular view of one particular small segment of the economy is going to outweigh several sources of information that gives a more general overdue of how strong our economy is? You have students graduating from both college and high school favoring better in 2007 than near the end of Obama's term, and that's just one small part of the economy without going into how the public and the private sector have been effected by the Obamacare mandate. There's a lot more to a true economic outlook than just one web site.

This is the thing about the Right, everything wrong with them they project on the Left. That "commentary BLOG" was YOUR very GALLUP source!!!!!!! You obviously never even clicked on the link but went through an entire rant on how useless your GALLUP source is!!!

 

[edthecynic]

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

A perfect example of how the Right LIES!

You could hardly figure out whether that 42% is a positive result of the Obama economy or the negative result as implied, without knowing the rate at the time Obama took office. And knowing what worthless lying scum the Right are I knew the Jan 2009 rate was left out on purpose, so I looked it up! And sure enough the "result of the Obama economy" was a 420% IMPROVEMENT over 2009. That's right, Bush left with a 10% Gallup Good Jobs Rate!!!!!

Professional liars tell just enough "truth" to mislead, .... and then shut up, which is why the Right are the lowest lying scum of all the worthless lying scum!!!!!!!

U.S. Quality Job Outlook in 2015 Best Since 2007

Here's the problem with the left. They want to look at only one small segment of statistical information, that is if they don't otherwise site a commentary blog, and think they have an overall picture of how the job market is doing. When in fact, to accurately determine the state of the nation's economy you need to be willing to look at several pieces of information and take them collectively as a whole to be effective in determining how the economy is actually doing. You honestly think one website that slants to your particular view of one particular small segment of the economy is going to outweigh several sources of information that gives a more general overdue of how strong our economy is? You have students graduating from both college and high school favoring better in 2007 than near the end of Obama's term, and that's just one small part of the economy without going into how the public and the private sector have been effected by the Obamacare mandate. There's a lot more to a true economic outlook than just one web site.

Holyfuckingshit!

Ed was looking at the data you posted. Using the data you posted, he showed how much we've improved under Obama.

Exactly, he did nothing but mock the source I used, which was HIS OWN Gallup source that he cited, the only difference was mine went back to 2001 with the yearly average for each year from 2001 to 2015. He used only the current month in 2016.

The funny thing is 2015 was the highest YEARLY AVERAGE ever, even higher than any YEARLY AVERAGE during the Bush years. Bush did have the highest MONTHLY % for one month just before his bubble burst, but Obama now has the highest YEARLY AVERAGE ever.

 

[Faun]

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

A perfect example of how the Right LIES!

You could hardly figure out whether that 42% is a positive result of the Obama economy or the negative result as implied, without knowing the rate at the time Obama took office. And knowing what worthless lying scum the Right are I knew the Jan 2009 rate was left out on purpose, so I looked it up! And sure enough the "result of the Obama economy" was a 420% IMPROVEMENT over 2009. That's right, Bush left with a 10% Gallup Good Jobs Rate!!!!!

Professional liars tell just enough "truth" to mislead, .... and then shut up, which is why the Right are the lowest lying scum of all the worthless lying scum!!!!!!!

U.S. Quality Job Outlook in 2015 Best Since 2007

Here's the problem with the left. They want to look at only one small segment of statistical information, that is if they don't otherwise site a commentary blog, and think they have an overall picture of how the job market is doing. When in fact, to accurately determine the state of the nation's economy you need to be willing to look at several pieces of information and take them collectively as a whole to be effective in determining how the economy is actually doing. You honestly think one website that slants to your particular view of one particular small segment of the economy is going to outweigh several sources of information that gives a more general overdue of how strong our economy is? You have students graduating from both college and high school favoring better in 2007 than near the end of Obama's term, and that's just one small part of the economy without going into how the public and the private sector have been effected by the Obamacare mandate. There's a lot more to a true economic outlook than just one web site.

Holyfuckingshit!

Ed was looking at the data you posted. Using the data you posted, he showed how much we've improved under Obama.

Exactly, he did nothing but mock the source I used, which was HIS OWN Gallup source that he cited, the only difference was mine went back to 2001 with the yearly average for each year from 2001 to 2015. He used only the current month in 2016.

The funny thing is 2015 was the highest YEARLY AVERAGE ever, even higher than any YEARLY AVERAGE during the Bush years. Bush did have the highest MONTHLY % for one month just before his bubble burst, but Obama now has the highest YEARLY AVERAGE ever.

It's fun watching righties attack their own sources when their own sources don't spew the message they want.

 

[Wyatt earp]

There is only 62.7% of adult Americans working, this according to one statistic from Feb 2016, near the end of the Obama presidency. We haven't seen Labor force participation this low since the 1970s. Long term unemployment is also still high, and these are just two indicators of the current economy.

There were less than 60% working during the boom years of the 1950s and 1960s, the LPR is a completely worthless economic indicator because it is skewed by demographics, but you have nothing else.

Long term unemployed at the peak of the Great Bush Recession was 6.8 million and there are 2.2 million now. Quite an improvement.

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

Gallup's underemployment rate – which tracks those who are unemployed or working part time but would like a full-time gig – held steady at 14 percent

labor force participation metric dropped to 66.8 percent, slightly more than CNN's data of 62.7% participation rate but about the same.


YOUNG COLLEGE GRADUATES:

unemployment rate for 2015 is 7.2 percent (compared with 5.5 percent in 2007),

underemployment rate is 14.9 percent (compared with 9.6 percent in 2007).


YOUNG HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES:

unemployment rate for 2015 19.5 percent (compared with 15.9 percent in 2007),

underemployment rate is 37.0 percent (compared with 26.8 percent in 2007).

The labor force participation rate measures the share of the civilian non-institutionalized population that is either working or actively looking for work.

The employment rate is the share of the total civilian non-institutionalized population with a job.


RESULTS OF OBAMACARE::

Cities, counties, public schools and community colleges around the country have limited or reduced the work hours of part-time employees to avoid having to provide them with health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, state and local officials say.

The cuts to public sector employment, which has failed to rebound since the recession, could serve as a powerful political weapon for Republican critics of the health care law, who claim that it is creating a drain on the economy.



US 2016 Store Closings - All Retail Chain Store Locations To Be Closed in 2016 and Beyond:

500 McDonald's
400 Office Depot / Office Max (by 2016)
223 Barnes & Noble (through 2023)
200 Children’s Place (through 2017)
200 Walgreens (by 2017)
175 Aeropostale (“over the next several years”)
154 Walmart (US 102 Walmart Express, 12 Walmart Supercenter, 6 Walmart, 23 Walmart Neighborhood Market, 4 Sam's Clubs)
150 American Eagle Outfitters (through 2017)
150 Finish Line
140 Sports Authority
120 Chico’s (through 2017)
100 Pier One (through 2017)

Too bad for you the BLS is the official organization on unemployment stats, not Gallup. While I understand your desire to find someone claiming higher unemployment figures than the BLS, they're rather quite meaningless.

 

[Faun]

There is only 62.7% of adult Americans working, this according to one statistic from Feb 2016, near the end of the Obama presidency. We haven't seen Labor force participation this low since the 1970s. Long term unemployment is also still high, and these are just two indicators of the current economy.

There were less than 60% working during the boom years of the 1950s and 1960s, the LPR is a completely worthless economic indicator because it is skewed by demographics, but you have nothing else.

Long term unemployed at the peak of the Great Bush Recession was 6.8 million and there are 2.2 million now. Quite an improvement.

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

Gallup's underemployment rate – which tracks those who are unemployed or working part time but would like a full-time gig – held steady at 14 percent

labor force participation metric dropped to 66.8 percent, slightly more than CNN's data of 62.7% participation rate but about the same.


YOUNG COLLEGE GRADUATES:

unemployment rate for 2015 is 7.2 percent (compared with 5.5 percent in 2007),

underemployment rate is 14.9 percent (compared with 9.6 percent in 2007).


YOUNG HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES:

unemployment rate for 2015 19.5 percent (compared with 15.9 percent in 2007),

underemployment rate is 37.0 percent (compared with 26.8 percent in 2007).

The labor force participation rate measures the share of the civilian non-institutionalized population that is either working or actively looking for work.

The employment rate is the share of the total civilian non-institutionalized population with a job.


RESULTS OF OBAMACARE::

Cities, counties, public schools and community colleges around the country have limited or reduced the work hours of part-time employees to avoid having to provide them with health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, state and local officials say.

The cuts to public sector employment, which has failed to rebound since the recession, could serve as a powerful political weapon for Republican critics of the health care law, who claim that it is creating a drain on the economy.



US 2016 Store Closings - All Retail Chain Store Locations To Be Closed in 2016 and Beyond:

500 McDonald's
400 Office Depot / Office Max (by 2016)
223 Barnes & Noble (through 2023)
200 Children’s Place (through 2017)
200 Walgreens (by 2017)
175 Aeropostale (“over the next several years”)
154 Walmart (US 102 Walmart Express, 12 Walmart Supercenter, 6 Walmart, 23 Walmart Neighborhood Market, 4 Sam's Clubs)
150 American Eagle Outfitters (through 2017)
150 Finish Line
140 Sports Authority
120 Chico’s (through 2017)
100 Pier One (through 2017)

Too bad for you the BLS is the official organization on unemployment stats, not Gallup. While I understand your desire to find someone claiming higher unemployment figures than the BLS, they're rather quite meaningless.

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Yeah, so? How many of those almost 94 million people want to work? Do you not understand what the unemployment rate measures? Do you need me to explain it to you?

 

[hangover]

Nothing generates unemployment like liberal policy

Seven and a half years of the unemployment rate being cut in half, with 200,000 jobs being created every month since the republicans destroyed the economy.

Absolute proof that cons are mentally ill and can not relate with the real world.

 

[edthecynic]

View attachment 71959

Yeah, so? How many of those almost 94 million people want to work? Do you not understand what the unemployment rate measures? Do you need me to explain it to you?

They also never complained about Bush's UE rate when he had 92+ million not working

 

[koshergrl]

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

A perfect example of how the Right LIES!

You could hardly figure out whether that 42% is a positive result of the Obama economy or the negative result as implied, without knowing the rate at the time Obama took office. And knowing what worthless lying scum the Right are I knew the Jan 2009 rate was left out on purpose, so I looked it up! And sure enough the "result of the Obama economy" was a 420% IMPROVEMENT over 2009. That's right, Bush left with a 10% Gallup Good Jobs Rate!!!!!

Professional liars tell just enough "truth" to mislead, .... and then shut up, which is why the Right are the lowest lying scum of all the worthless lying scum!!!!!!!

U.S. Quality Job Outlook in 2015 Best Since 2007

Here's the problem with the left. They want to look at only one small segment of statistical information, that is if they don't otherwise site a commentary blog, and think they have an overall picture of how the job market is doing. When in fact, to accurately determine the state of the nation's economy you need to be willing to look at several pieces of information and take them collectively as a whole to be effective in determining how the economy is actually doing. You honestly think one website that slants to your particular view of one particular small segment of the economy is going to outweigh several sources of information that gives a more general overdue of how strong our economy is? You have students graduating from both college and high school favoring better in 2007 than near the end of Obama's term, and that's just one small part of the economy without going into how the public and the private sector have been effected by the Obamacare mandate. There's a lot more to a true economic outlook than just one web site.

Holyfuckingshit!

Ed was looking at the data you posted. Using the data you posted, he showed how much we've improved under Obama.

"According to brand new numbers that were just released by the Social Security Administration, 51 percent of all workers in the United States make less than $30,000 a year. Let that number sink in for a moment. You can’t support a middle class family in America today on just $2,500 a month – especially after taxes are taken out. And yet more than half of all workers in this country make less than that each month. In order to have a thriving middle class, you have got to have an economy that produces lots of middle class jobs, and that simply is not happening in America today."

Wage Statistics for 2014

Goodbye Middle Class: 51 Percent Of All American Workers Make Less Than 30,000 Dollars A Year Washington's Blog

 

[koshergrl]

"The U.S. gross domestic product has shrunk 3.9 percent in the past year, the worst drop since the Great Depression. Plenty of observers are willing to say that this recession is much deeper than anything we've seen since the 1930s—including the big dip in the early 1980s, generally accepted as the other candidate for the worst recession since the Great Depression. "I think it's way worse today," says Ridgely Evers of Tapit Partners, a longtime entrepreneur and venture capitalist who founded the software company Netbooks (now known as WorkingPoint). In the recession of 1981 and 1982, "people recognized it as a dip. [Today,] nobody thinks we are going to come back out in relatively short order." This recession seems to have dragged on longer. According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), the U.S. economy was in recession from July 1981 to November 1982—16 months. But the current recession started in December 2007, says the NBER, so it's already longer than the last big one."

"...many of the people one would think of as "unemployed" are not included in this unemployment rate. For one, the Bureau of Labor Statistics does not count unemployed people who have been discouraged by the labor market and have given up looking for work. You are counted as a "discouraged worker" if you are available to work, want to work, and tried to look for work in the past year but gave up within four weeks for reasons including the belief that no work is available. The fact that the national unemployment rate excludes these discouraged workers has led many observers to believe it does not reflect the "real" level of unemployment."

In other words, the only unemployed people who the feds include in their numbers are the ones who qualify for, and receive, unemployment comp. As we all know, most people who don't work aren't getting UC.

Is Unemployment the Worst Since the Great Depression?

 

[koshergrl]

"What happens when you start counting all these people who have been heavily battered by the labor market? The Bureau of Labor Statistics has another rate that includes "marginally affected workers" and part-time workers. That number, referred to as U-6 because of its identification in bureaureports, was 16.3 percent last month—nearly 7 percentage points higher than the official unemployment rate. What's more, the number of people who have given up on finding work has been steadily rising over the past few months, from 685,000 in May to 796,000 in July."

"A U-6 rate of more than 16 percent certainly does not compare to the Great Depression, when a quarter of the workforce was unemployed. And Williams points out that a much larger number of workers were agricultural workers in the 1930s. These farm workers are not included in today's statistics."

Is Unemployment the Worst Since the Great Depression?

 

[edthecynic]

"According to brand new numbers that were just released by the Social Security Administration, 51 percent of all workers in the United States make less than $30,000 a year. Let that number sink in for a moment. You can’t support a middle class family in America today on just $2,500 a month – especially after taxes are taken out. And yet more than half of all workers in this country make less than that each month. In order to have a thriving middle class, you have got to have an economy that produces lots of middle class jobs, and that simply is not happening in America today."

Wage Statistics for 2014

Goodbye Middle Class: 51 Percent Of All American Workers Make Less Than 30,000 Dollars A Year Washington's Blog

Again we see the same deceptive Right-wing dishonesty on display.

They give a stat for INDIVIDUAL income and then make a FALSE claim about FAMILY income. Every INDIVIDUAL does not support a FAMILY! Median FAMILY income is $65,910.

US Household Income | Department of Numbers

US Family Income
The ACS 1-year survey reports that the median family income in the United States was $65,910 in 2014, the latest year available. Median family income data for 2015 will be release in September of 2016.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

A perfect example of how the Right LIES!

You could hardly figure out whether that 42% is a positive result of the Obama economy or the negative result as implied, without knowing the rate at the time Obama took office. And knowing what worthless lying scum the Right are I knew the Jan 2009 rate was left out on purpose, so I looked it up! And sure enough the "result of the Obama economy" was a 420% IMPROVEMENT over 2009. That's right, Bush left with a 10% Gallup Good Jobs Rate!!!!!

Professional liars tell just enough "truth" to mislead, .... and then shut up, which is why the Right are the lowest lying scum of all the worthless lying scum!!!!!!!

U.S. Quality Job Outlook in 2015 Best Since 2007

Here's the problem with the left. They want to look at only one small segment of statistical information, that is if they don't otherwise site a commentary blog, and think they have an overall picture of how the job market is doing. When in fact, to accurately determine the state of the nation's economy you need to be willing to look at several pieces of information and take them collectively as a whole to be effective in determining how the economy is actually doing. You honestly think one website that slants to your particular view of one particular small segment of the economy is going to outweigh several sources of information that gives a more general overdue of how strong our economy is? You have students graduating from both college and high school favoring better in 2007 than near the end of Obama's term, and that's just one small part of the economy without going into how the public and the private sector have been effected by the Obamacare mandate. There's a lot more to a true economic outlook than just one web site.

This is the thing about the Right, everything wrong with them they project on the Left. That "commentary BLOG" was YOUR very GALLUP source!!!!!!! You obviously never even clicked on the link but went through an entire rant on how useless your GALLUP source is!!!

Again. I quoted the Gallop poll to compare it with the CNN poll on the economy, to which you said was unreliable "to be any kind of a useful ECONOMIC indicator the demographic component must be factored out." I showed how the Gallop poll was close to the same figures used by CNN - to which you had called "bullshit". Now all you want to put your focus on is the one source that complements the "bullshit" CNN figures.

As I have said before, you have to be willing to look at SEVERAL pieces of information and take them collectively as a whole to be effective in determining how the nation is actually doing. You think you can get everything you need from ONE website, giving only one piece of information? Why do you think I also included the results of College graduates, as well as those who only completed High School, with how they faired in obtaining work? What about those jobs in the private and public sectors reducing part time hours because of the Obamacare mandate?

Either you are SOOO content with focusing ALL your attention to only ONE particular set of information and that is all that you want to see, or perhaps that's all that really matters to you? Which I can believe of Faun, because all of his economic knowledge is wrapped up in the same single source that he wants to utilizes in answering every economic situation there is. It really DOES come down to the fact that you and Faun only want to focus on one set of data without analyzing all the key factors that make up the economy: The unemployed, those who are only able to only find part time work (if that work hasn't been cut any further by Obamacare), college graduates that hold a degree, those graduates with only a diploma, do businesses happen to be expanding, closing, or moving overseas during this particular period of time .... etc.

This is why it seems the left has such a terrible time processing all the various bits of economic information. Perhaps I need to break down my responses to brief "one source" pieces of information at a given time, rather than all at once. At least by explaining each piece of information as I present it, I can better explain how that can have an overall effect on the general economy.

 

[edthecynic]

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

A perfect example of how the Right LIES!

You could hardly figure out whether that 42% is a positive result of the Obama economy or the negative result as implied, without knowing the rate at the time Obama took office. And knowing what worthless lying scum the Right are I knew the Jan 2009 rate was left out on purpose, so I looked it up! And sure enough the "result of the Obama economy" was a 420% IMPROVEMENT over 2009. That's right, Bush left with a 10% Gallup Good Jobs Rate!!!!!

Professional liars tell just enough "truth" to mislead, .... and then shut up, which is why the Right are the lowest lying scum of all the worthless lying scum!!!!!!!

U.S. Quality Job Outlook in 2015 Best Since 2007

Here's the problem with the left. They want to look at only one small segment of statistical information, that is if they don't otherwise site a commentary blog, and think they have an overall picture of how the job market is doing. When in fact, to accurately determine the state of the nation's economy you need to be willing to look at several pieces of information and take them collectively as a whole to be effective in determining how the economy is actually doing. You honestly think one website that slants to your particular view of one particular small segment of the economy is going to outweigh several sources of information that gives a more general overdue of how strong our economy is? You have students graduating from both college and high school favoring better in 2007 than near the end of Obama's term, and that's just one small part of the economy without going into how the public and the private sector have been effected by the Obamacare mandate. There's a lot more to a true economic outlook than just one web site.

This is the thing about the Right, everything wrong with them they project on the Left. That "commentary BLOG" was YOUR very GALLUP source!!!!!!! You obviously never even clicked on the link but went through an entire rant on how useless your GALLUP source is!!!

Again. I quoted the Gallop poll to compare it with the CNN poll on the economy, to which you said was unreliable "to be any kind of a useful ECONOMIC indicator the demographic component must be factored out." I showed how the Gallop poll was close to the same figures used by CNN - to which you had called "bullshit". Now all you want to put your focus on is the one source that complements the "bullshit" CNN figures.

I said the LPR needed to be factored for demographics. Your Gallup "good jobs rate" has absolutely nothing to do with the LPR.

In BOTH cases you were being dishonest.

 

[Old Rocks]

"The U.S. gross domestic product has shrunk 3.9 percent in the past year, the worst drop since the Great Depression. Plenty of observers are willing to say that this recession is much deeper than anything we've seen since the 1930s—including the big dip in the early 1980s, generally accepted as the other candidate for the worst recession since the Great Depression. "I think it's way worse today," says Ridgely Evers of Tapit Partners, a longtime entrepreneur and venture capitalist who founded the software company Netbooks (now known as WorkingPoint). In the recession of 1981 and 1982, "people recognized it as a dip. [Today,] nobody thinks we are going to come back out in relatively short order." This recession seems to have dragged on longer. According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), the U.S. economy was in recession from July 1981 to November 1982—16 months. But the current recession started in December 2007, says the NBER, so it's already longer than the last big one."

"...many of the people one would think of as "unemployed" are not included in this unemployment rate. For one, the Bureau of Labor Statistics does not count unemployed people who have been discouraged by the labor market and have given up looking for work. You are counted as a "discouraged worker" if you are available to work, want to work, and tried to look for work in the past year but gave up within four weeks for reasons including the belief that no work is available. The fact that the national unemployment rate excludes these discouraged workers has led many observers to believe it does not reflect the "real" level of unemployment."

In other words, the only unemployed people who the feds include in their numbers are the ones who qualify for, and receive, unemployment comp. As we all know, most people who don't work aren't getting UC.

Is Unemployment the Worst Since the Great Depression?

Silly ass. Unemployment is figured the same now as when Bush was in office. Did not see you bitching about it then.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

A perfect example of how the Right LIES!

You could hardly figure out whether that 42% is a positive result of the Obama economy or the negative result as implied, without knowing the rate at the time Obama took office. And knowing what worthless lying scum the Right are I knew the Jan 2009 rate was left out on purpose, so I looked it up! And sure enough the "result of the Obama economy" was a 420% IMPROVEMENT over 2009. That's right, Bush left with a 10% Gallup Good Jobs Rate!!!!!

Professional liars tell just enough "truth" to mislead, .... and then shut up, which is why the Right are the lowest lying scum of all the worthless lying scum!!!!!!!

U.S. Quality Job Outlook in 2015 Best Since 2007

Here's the problem with the left. They want to look at only one small segment of statistical information, that is if they don't otherwise site a commentary blog, and think they have an overall picture of how the job market is doing. When in fact, to accurately determine the state of the nation's economy you need to be willing to look at several pieces of information and take them collectively as a whole to be effective in determining how the economy is actually doing. You honestly think one website that slants to your particular view of one particular small segment of the economy is going to outweigh several sources of information that gives a more general overdue of how strong our economy is? You have students graduating from both college and high school favoring better in 2007 than near the end of Obama's term, and that's just one small part of the economy without going into how the public and the private sector have been effected by the Obamacare mandate. There's a lot more to a true economic outlook than just one web site.

This is the thing about the Right, everything wrong with them they project on the Left. That "commentary BLOG" was YOUR very GALLUP source!!!!!!! You obviously never even clicked on the link but went through an entire rant on how useless your GALLUP source is!!!

Again. I quoted the Gallop poll to compare it with the CNN poll on the economy, to which you said was unreliable "to be any kind of a useful ECONOMIC indicator the demographic component must be factored out." I showed how the Gallop poll was close to the same figures used by CNN - to which you had called "bullshit". Now all you want to put your focus on is the one source that complements the "bullshit" CNN figures.

I said the LPR needed to be factored for demographics. Your Gallup "good jobs rate" has absolutely nothing to do with the LPR.

In BOTH cases you were being dishonest.

i wasn't being dishonest as both sources shared the same information regarding the actual labor force participation rate. You have to look beyond just those figures, however and into other areas that effect the economy. We have college graduates that are having a more difficult time finding a job associated with their degree than in 2007, public AND private sector cutting part time hours to avoid ACA, businesses closing not expanding.... that's how you get an accurate depiction of how the economy effects those various groups of people who are looking for work. Just one statistical figure might sound appealing, put a red bow on it and start bragging how much an improvement we've got ... but not every group shares in your assessment.

Even monthly job numbers can be misleading, in that you can not say for certain (based on those figures alone),how many are the result of layoffs and rehires. You could have the same individual start 3 different short term jobs in a year, and those statistical job numbers reports would count all three as three separate individual "new jobs" that were added to the economy. .

 

[Faun]

Results of the Obama economy:

Gallup's good jobs rate, which reflects the percentage of the U.S. population working at least 30 hour weeks (excluding the self-employed) stood at January 44.7

A perfect example of how the Right LIES!

You could hardly figure out whether that 42% is a positive result of the Obama economy or the negative result as implied, without knowing the rate at the time Obama took office. And knowing what worthless lying scum the Right are I knew the Jan 2009 rate was left out on purpose, so I looked it up! And sure enough the "result of the Obama economy" was a 420% IMPROVEMENT over 2009. That's right, Bush left with a 10% Gallup Good Jobs Rate!!!!!

Professional liars tell just enough "truth" to mislead, .... and then shut up, which is why the Right are the lowest lying scum of all the worthless lying scum!!!!!!!

U.S. Quality Job Outlook in 2015 Best Since 2007

Here's the problem with the left. They want to look at only one small segment of statistical information, that is if they don't otherwise site a commentary blog, and think they have an overall picture of how the job market is doing. When in fact, to accurately determine the state of the nation's economy you need to be willing to look at several pieces of information and take them collectively as a whole to be effective in determining how the economy is actually doing. You honestly think one website that slants to your particular view of one particular small segment of the economy is going to outweigh several sources of information that gives a more general overdue of how strong our economy is? You have students graduating from both college and high school favoring better in 2007 than near the end of Obama's term, and that's just one small part of the economy without going into how the public and the private sector have been effected by the Obamacare mandate. There's a lot more to a true economic outlook than just one web site.

Holyfuckingshit!

Ed was looking at the data you posted. Using the data you posted, he showed how much we've improved under Obama.

"According to brand new numbers that were just released by the Social Security Administration, 51 percent of all workers in the United States make less than $30,000 a year. Let that number sink in for a moment. You can’t support a middle class family in America today on just $2,500 a month – especially after taxes are taken out. And yet more than half of all workers in this country make less than that each month. In order to have a thriving middle class, you have got to have an economy that produces lots of middle class jobs, and that simply is not happening in America today."

Wage Statistics for 2014

Goodbye Middle Class: 51 Percent Of All American Workers Make Less Than 30,000 Dollars A Year Washington's Blog

Demented idiot. That's down from 55% when Obama became president. You do realize the smaller that percentage, the more money people are making, right?

 

[Faun]

"The U.S. gross domestic product has shrunk 3.9 percent in the past year, the worst drop since the Great Depression. Plenty of observers are willing to say that this recession is much deeper than anything we've seen since the 1930s—including the big dip in the early 1980s, generally accepted as the other candidate for the worst recession since the Great Depression. "I think it's way worse today," says Ridgely Evers of Tapit Partners, a longtime entrepreneur and venture capitalist who founded the software company Netbooks (now known as WorkingPoint). In the recession of 1981 and 1982, "people recognized it as a dip. [Today,] nobody thinks we are going to come back out in relatively short order." This recession seems to have dragged on longer. According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), the U.S. economy was in recession from July 1981 to November 1982—16 months. But the current recession started in December 2007, says the NBER, so it's already longer than the last big one."

"...many of the people one would think of as "unemployed" are not included in this unemployment rate. For one, the Bureau of Labor Statistics does not count unemployed people who have been discouraged by the labor market and have given up looking for work. You are counted as a "discouraged worker" if you are available to work, want to work, and tried to look for work in the past year but gave up within four weeks for reasons including the belief that no work is available. The fact that the national unemployment rate excludes these discouraged workers has led many observers to believe it does not reflect the "real" level of unemployment."

In other words, the only unemployed people who the feds include in their numbers are the ones who qualify for, and receive, unemployment comp. As we all know, most people who don't work aren't getting UC.

Is Unemployment the Worst Since the Great Depression?

Holyfuckingshit!

Worst drop in GDP since the Great Depression? No shit! Why do you think it's referred to as the Great Recession? And two of those quarters were under Bush and the other two were during the Great Recession Bush handed Obama.