NSA ***ADMITS*** Listening To US Domestic Calls WITHOUT A WARRANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Contumacious]

Bush administration at certain times did NOT do warrants as they were supposed to. Obama has DUH. See NYT link in #97.

Really?

WHY THEN ARE THEY REFUSING TO RELEASE FISA COURT RULINGS?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?

Obama Refuses to Release Bush’s Legal Excuse for Illegal Surveillance

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[francoHFW]

"sissy boy" LOL WTF is wrong with you?

Your links are all BS, recanted BS, stuff about Booosh not Obama. We're done here. Change the channel, fools.

 

[francoHFW]

Bush administration at certain times did NOT do warrants as they were supposed to. Obama has DUH. See NYT link in #97.

Really?

WHY THEN ARE THEY REFUSING TO RELEASE FISA COURT RULINGS?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?

Obama Refuses to Release Bush’s Legal Excuse for Illegal Surveillance

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They did, stupid, to the congressional committes on National Security. They're top secret, and there's no evidence they're not kosher. Same with all the stuff Issa has been refused. The gov't is not part of your Pub/Pub dupe infotainment horse shytte LOL.

So misinformed...

 

[francoHFW]

Bush's rulings? From allgov. com? Ay caramba!

 

[Wacky Quacky]

Listen, you braindead boot licker, Bush spied on terrorists. Obama spies on innocent Americans.

Are right wingers really so naive as to believe that? You're right that Obama is essentially spying on us citizens, but to think that Bush didn't do the same thing!?

You're the political equivalent of a five year old who still believes in the tooth fairy. Wake up! Both parties are fucking us. They're both spying on us. It's not a question of left vs right, but us vs them.

Got any proof Bush spied on average Americans? Nope, you just think he did.

Google the name "Mark Klein" for me, see what you come up with.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Listen, jackazz dupes. This is a Bush program, the difference is NOW they need warrants and have judicial review every 3 months. Try to get it through your thick skulls...

Hey JackAzz Dupe... You ever SEE one of those warrants?? Ever have one of those "warrants" appealed or revealed in a REAL COURT??

How many warrants has the FISA court REFUSED in the last 4 years???

Do you know that the FISA judges are not lifetime spook spies in Generals' uniform?

Think they are reading warrants for communications content already SEIZED --- three days after the fact? Hey YOuu -- UNLISTEN to that phone tap.. NOW...

You don't know crap ---- And I don't consider a SECRET document a warrant if even it's EXISTENCE is a secret.. Do you?? Phone companies got threatened just because they wanted to take the warrant to a REAL court..

You really have no will to live free do ya? You just what to root for the hometeam. Youre a shallow useless political tool...

What is your primary concern?

Being embarrassed or being arrested?

Under the current system you need only worry about the former.

Those FISA warrants are useless to pursue a criminal prosecution. And the government has no interest in prosecuting you for dealing drugs or child pornography. A criminal complaint is only as good as the warrant authorizing it. Even if a FISA warrant turns up evidence of alleged terrorist activity, such a warrant lacks the necessary probable cause to justify further investigation or arrest.

Moreover, the courts have been consistent in determining that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy once you knowingly turn over records to a third party, such as your wireless company or ISP. See, e.g., United States v. Miller (1976), no expectation of privacy with regard to bank records; Smith v. Maryland (1979) no expectation of privacy with regard to phone records.

 

[Antares]

"sissy boy" LOL WTF is wrong with you?

Your links are all BS, recanted BS, stuff about Booosh not Obama. We're done here. Change the channel, fools.

Sure thing kid....so you support Bammy's "Private" interpretation of section 215?

 

[Contumacious]

Moreover, the courts have been consistent in determining that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy once you knowingly turn over records to a third party, such as your wireless company or ISP. See, e.g., United States v. Miller (1976), no expectation of privacy with regard to bank records; Smith v. Maryland (1979) no expectation of privacy with regard to phone records.

Lord of Mercy.

The zombified never cease to amaze me.

I can not believe that someone would say that a scumbag low life "judge" who claims to be immune from lawsuits, can impartially and independently adjudicate whether or not I expect my transaction with my ISP - A PRIVATE COMPANY - as private?!?!?!?!?!

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[C_Clayton_Jones]

Moreover, the courts have been consistent in determining that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy once you knowingly turn over records to a third party, such as your wireless company or ISP. See, e.g., United States v. Miller (1976), no expectation of privacy with regard to bank records; Smith v. Maryland (1979) no expectation of privacy with regard to phone records.

Lord of Mercy.

The zombified never cease to amaze me.

I can not believe that someone would say that a scumbag low life "judge" who claims to be immune from lawsuits, can impartially and independently adjudicate whether or not I expect my transaction with my ISP - A PRIVATE COMPANY - as private?!?!?!?!?!

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Many judges and justices over many years, in fact.

Otherwise, your contempt for the Constitution and its case law come as no surprise.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Moreover, the courts have been consistent in determining that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy once you knowingly turn over records to a third party, such as your wireless company or ISP. See, e.g., United States v. Miller (1976), no expectation of privacy with regard to bank records; Smith v. Maryland (1979) no expectation of privacy with regard to phone records.

Lord of Mercy.

The zombified never cease to amaze me.

I can not believe that someone would say that a scumbag low life "judge" who claims to be immune from lawsuits, can impartially and independently adjudicate whether or not I expect my transaction with my ISP - A PRIVATE COMPANY - as private?!?!?!?!?!

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Many judges and justices over many years, in fact.

Otherwise, your contempt for the Constitution and its case law come as no surprise.

Your contempt for precedent is no surprise.

Just take a look at US vs. Warshak (6th Circuit, 2010)

 

[mudwhistle]

Are right wingers really so naive as to believe that? You're right that Obama is essentially spying on us citizens, but to think that Bush didn't do the same thing!?

You're the political equivalent of a five year old who still believes in the tooth fairy. Wake up! Both parties are fucking us. They're both spying on us. It's not a question of left vs right, but us vs them.

Got any proof Bush spied on average Americans? Nope, you just think he did.

Google the name "Mark Klein" for me, see what you come up with.

I'm sure some source like Media Matters or Thinkprogress fed you his name. The guy worked for AT&T. He spilled the beans on another program back when the threat was Islamic Radical Terrorism, not conservative groups. Back then it took a court order to listen in on phone conversations. Now it's at the analyst's discretion. Now the ability to listen to up to a million phone conversations or tap into someone's computer and watch them jerk off to porn without them knowing is commonplace. Back then the technology didn't exist.

Information is being gathered on surfing habits for every phone number in America and all Obama has to do is get a person's number and it tells him everything he needs to know to destroy their lives. I hardly doubt Bush was that evil or paranoid.

Obama has signed an agreement with The Muslim Brotherhood to look the other way when it comes to Muslims but when it comes to conservatives he has no problem spying on them because he considers them a threat. Obama knows about the spying but he has plausible deniability due to not knowing the details, who is doing what to whom. He knows everything yet he knows nothing. It's being taken care of.

 

[Contumacious]

Moreover, the courts have been consistent in determining that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy once you knowingly turn over records to a third party, such as your wireless company or ISP. See, e.g., United States v. Miller (1976), no expectation of privacy with regard to bank records; Smith v. Maryland (1979) no expectation of privacy with regard to phone records.

Lord of Mercy.

The zombified never cease to amaze me.

I can not believe that someone would say that a scumbag low life "judge" who claims to be immune from lawsuits, can impartially and independently adjudicate whether or not I expect my transaction with my ISP - A PRIVATE COMPANY - as private?!?!?!?!?!

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Many judges and justices over many years, in fact.

Otherwise, your contempt for the Constitution and its case law come as no surprise.

Pay attention, federal agents , pretending to be Article III judges , have created case law which is the OPPOSITE of what the Constitution mandates.

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[Contumacious]

"Former AT&T engineer Mark Klein revealed that AT&T and other telecoms had built a special network that allowed the National Security Agency full and unfettered access to data about the telephone calls and the content of email communications for all of their customers. Specifically, Klein explained "that the NSA set up a system that vacuumed up Internet and phone-call data from ordinary Americans with the cooperation of AT&T" and that "contrary to the government's depiction of its surveillance program as aimed at overseas terrorists . . . much of the data sent through AT&T to the NSA was purely domestic." But his amazing revelations were mostly ignored and, when Congress retroactively immunized the nation's telecom giants for their participation in the illegal Bush spying programs, Klein's claims (by design) were prevented from being adjudicated in cour."

 

[mudwhistle]

"Former AT&T engineer Mark Klein revealed that AT&T and other telecoms had built a special network that allowed the National Security Agency full and unfettered access to data about the telephone calls and the content of email communications for all of their customers. Specifically, Klein explained "that the NSA set up a system that vacuumed up Internet and phone-call data from ordinary Americans with the cooperation of AT&T" and that "contrary to the government's depiction of its surveillance program as aimed at overseas terrorists . . . much of the data sent through AT&T to the NSA was purely domestic." But his amazing revelations were mostly ignored and, when Congress retroactively immunized the nation's telecom giants for their participation in the illegal Bush spying programs, Klein's claims (by design) were prevented from being adjudicated in cour."

Anyone who has bought a computer with Windows 8 knows you cannot even run the initial start up program on the new system without internet access. New computers all have cameras mounted on them.

The new XBOX ONE actually turns on by itself and scans the room every 24 hrs. This is Microsoft spying on us.

 

[flacaltenn]

Horse patoot, fear mongered, paranoid dupes. Your BS charlatan heroes making big bucks off your fears and ignorance. NO EVIDENCE of ANY such thing.

Every post you make (thousands to date) hurts your causes.

If Karl Rove didn't invent you and deploy you ---- he should have..

If you're not being paid by the Koch brothers for your prolific barfing --- they should reward you...

You are the INCARNATION of the term "useful tool".....

I asked you questions about your love of FISA court and secret warrants.. You CAN"T OR WONT play nice with others.. You have NO ANSWERS to ANYONES questions.

You no longer will waste my time..

 

[daveman]

NY TIMES:

Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell:

The Executive Branch DOES NOT NEED WARRANTS


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That's under Booosh fer chrissake. SAME PROGRAM, but Pub a-holes feel THEY'RE above the law. Same goes for perfidious Albion tapping visitng diplomats. Got NOTHING to do with Dems...BTW, you're an idiot waste of time. LOL

To review: NOT a new program, Dems doing NOTHING wrong, hater dupes...

And you have evidence that the Obama Administration is as pure as the white driven snow how?

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Obama told him.

And the moron believed it!! Sucker!!

 

[daveman]

Too bad Pub dissent is lying hater BS, Duh Duh Dave.

Doesn't matter if it's true or not, you flaming retard. As badly as you loath the idea of freedom of speech, I can disagree with Obama all I like.

And you pussies just have to deal with it. You haven't taken away that freedom yet, no matter how badly you want to.

 

[francoHFW]

Duh. But everything you know is STILL hysterical Pubcrappe.

My evidence that Obama is pure as the driven snow is that the Pub Propaganda Machine and the hater dupes have no evidence he isn't, when you look at it- all malevolent BS. But thanks for 9/11, the stupidest wars EVER, a great world depression, and 5 years now of mindless obstruction and fear and hate mongering...

 

[mudwhistle]

Duh. But everything you know is STILL hysterical Pubcrappe.

My evidence that Obama is pure as the driven snow is that the Pub Propaganda Machine and the hater dupes have no evidence he isn't, when you look at it- all malevolent BS. But thanks for 9/11, the stupidest wars EVER, a great world depression, and 5 years now of mindless obstruction and fear and hate mongering...

Or you're just a twisted, mindless Obamafluffer that cannot admit the truth about him.

The administration already has admitted to using the IRS improperly. What's to stop them from using PRISM and other programs improperly and illegally? Their only defense is that they claim there are checks and balances in place, but we've already seen that Obama always finds ways around them.

Nope, he's getting away with it for now, but it's only because he feels that folks like you still support him. Obama lies about the little things so it's not a stretch at all that he lies about the big things too. Spying on journalists and average citizens is against the law. The only problem is proving it. But then we have to fight our way through the government to prosecute him. It takes time. That is Obama's ally. Time.

 

[Bfgrn]

"Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us and now we're discovering we work for Fox. And this balance here has been completely reversed. The thing that sustains a strong Fox network is the thing that undermines a strong Republican party."
David Frum - Speechwriter for George W. Bush