Number of guns in society falling sharply

[JohnA]

Reported gun ownership. What about all the guns stolen, bought and resold by criminals? They couldn't be included in the survey because there is no way to trace them.

of course not and the folks with illegal guns are the ones who do the crime.
the stats posted are meaninless

 

[Missourian]

Then why do countries which ban guns have few murders and little crime?

Russia bans ALL HANDGUNS but has more than twice the murder rate of the U.S.

Civilian owned firearms in Russia...9 firearms per 100 citizens.

In the U.S. it's 88 firearms per 100 citizens.

Murder rate in Russia is 11.2 per 100,000 citizens.

Murder rate in the U.S. is 5 per 100,000 citizens.

 

[skookerasbil]

Gotta understand the typical limpwrister gun grabber guy......they see something like this >>>

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.....and it weirds them.

Most of these people are afraid of their own shadow and see all of life as being horribly tragic, thus, this obsession with trying to control it by making it bubble-like.

 

[JohnA]

Then why do countries which ban guns have few murders and little crime?

Russia bans ALL HANDGUNS but has more than twice the murder rate of the U.S.

Civilian owned firearms in Russia...9 firearms per 100 citizens.

In the U.S. it's 88 firearms per 100 citizens.

Murder rate in Russia is 11.2 per 100,000 citizens.

Murder rate in the U.S. is 5 per 100,000 citizens.

CITIES in AMERICA that have strict gun control laws
ny city high murder by gun rate
chicago high murder by gun rate
dc high murder by gun rate

 

[JimBowie1958]

Can it be that the fascination with guns is slowly coming to an end?

And can it be that the reason the US homicide rate is falling is because the number of households owning guns is falling?

It seems so, according to both the NY Times and LA Times, Gallup and the General Social Survey:

The share of American households with guns has declined over the past four decades, a national survey shows, with some of the most surprising drops in the South and the Western mountain states, where guns are deeply embedded in the culture.

The household gun ownership rate has fallen from an average of 50 percent in the 1970s to 49 percent in the 1980s, 43 percent in the 1990s and 35 percent in the 2000s, according to the survey data, analyzed by The New York Times.
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The major point is that the American “culture of gun ownership” that one often hears about has been strikingly on the wane for the past generation. A similar decline has taken place in the number of Americans who hunt, now about 5% of the population.

Crime is down -- and so is gun ownership - Los Angeles Times

It wasn't bad enough you get your ass handed to you in the last thread you have to make up your own and repeat the same nonsense.
Look at NICS check data. They have been at record levels for the last 4 months. That is not all existing gun owners buying more. Look at NRA membership. Climbing at 8,000 a day at times. That is not all existing gun owners.
The surveys fail in two ways: first, it is self reported and many people, myself included, are not telling some stranger on the phone whether he has guns or not. Second, it is a survey of households, not individuals. There are many more households of smaller size than there used to be.

True. The title of this thread should be 'Number of Guns Admitted to in society falling sharply.'

Hell most of the libtard blue states are so hostile to gun ownership with their stupid registration laws, etc, I know I would not answer such a survey.

 

[Saigon]

Then why do countries which ban guns have few murders and little crime?

Why do you keep repeating this lie? See how that works?

Because it remains largely true.

Yes, the UK has a higher rate of knife crime and muggings, but the murder rate is a fraction of that in the US.

Comparisons with Russia show some real desperation - why not use Japan as basis for comparison instead?

 

[Saigon]

Then why do countries which ban guns have few murders and little crime?

Russia bans ALL HANDGUNS but has more than twice the murder rate of the U.S.

Civilian owned firearms in Russia...9 firearms per 100 citizens.

In the U.S. it's 88 firearms per 100 citizens.

Murder rate in Russia is 11.2 per 100,000 citizens.

Murder rate in the U.S. is 5 per 100,000 citizens.

The number of guns in Russia is massive - absolutely massive.

Ask anyone with a good knowledge of Russia.

The problem is that Russian guns are often illegal and appear in no statistics.

The same is true of many countries with very large mafia and organised crime families, such as Estonia and Mexico.

Thus, they are not a great basis for comparison on anything.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Then why do countries which ban guns have few murders and little crime?

Why do you keep repeating this lie? See how that works?

Because it remains largely true.

Yes, the UK has a higher rate of knife crime and muggings, but the murder rate is a fraction of that in the US.

Comparisons with Russia show some real desperation - why not use Japan as basis for comparison instead?

The UK was a very lawful nation in 1900, with a very low crime rate that started to go up after WW2, just a bit, then exploded after the gun ban.

Meanwhile the US had a huge crime problem most of its history along the frontiers and in our inner cities. Since the legalization of concealed carry in most states the crimes rates have dropped.

So you are wanting to compare 1) a nation that once had lower crime rates, hugely increased them with gun bans, then has seen them crawl back down over the years, and 2) a nation that is slowly civilizing itself over the last two centuries.

Lol, you guys are comparing falling apples to rising oranges.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Then why do countries which ban guns have few murders and little crime?

Russia bans ALL HANDGUNS but has more than twice the murder rate of the U.S.

Civilian owned firearms in Russia...9 firearms per 100 citizens.

In the U.S. it's 88 firearms per 100 citizens.

Murder rate in Russia is 11.2 per 100,000 citizens.

Murder rate in the U.S. is 5 per 100,000 citizens.

The number of guns in Russia is massive - absolutely massive.

Ask anyone with a good knowledge of Russia.

The problem is that Russian guns are often illegal and appear in no statistics.

The same is true of many countries with very large mafia and organised crime families, such as Estonia and Mexico.

Thus, they are not a great basis for comparison on anything.

Russia is far more similar to the US and its size, amount of rural area, relatively low population desnity and high rate of gun ownership. Instead you want to ignore the UKs crime explosion after they banned guns and after the home office decided to revise how they count murders to reduce the crime rate statistics.

 

[Saigon]

Jim -

then exploded after the gun ban.

Then explain how the murder rate is now at its lowest point since 1983.

 

[Saigon]

Russia is far more similar to the US and its size, amount of rural area, relatively low population desnity and high rate of gun ownership

Really?

So you do not consider race or immigration to be factors in gun use?

Nor the shift from communist control to capitalism, presumably?

Interesting.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Then why do countries which ban guns have few murders and little crime?

Russia bans ALL HANDGUNS but has more than twice the murder rate of the U.S.

Civilian owned firearms in Russia...9 firearms per 100 citizens.

In the U.S. it's 88 firearms per 100 citizens.

Murder rate in Russia is 11.2 per 100,000 citizens.

Murder rate in the U.S. is 5 per 100,000 citizens.

The number of guns in Russia is massive - absolutely massive.

Ask anyone with a good knowledge of Russia.

The problem is that Russian guns are often illegal and appear in no statistics.

The same is true of many countries with very large mafia and organised crime families, such as Estonia and Mexico.

Thus, they are not a great basis for comparison on anything.

some posts are really worth a laugh

this is one of them

--LOL

more then laughable

thanks for the all powerful neg rep loser --LOL

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Then why do countries which ban guns have few murders and little crime?

Russia bans ALL HANDGUNS but has more than twice the murder rate of the U.S.

Civilian owned firearms in Russia...9 firearms per 100 citizens.

In the U.S. it's 88 firearms per 100 citizens.

Murder rate in Russia is 11.2 per 100,000 citizens.

Murder rate in the U.S. is 5 per 100,000 citizens.

The number of guns in Russia is massive - absolutely massive.

Ask anyone with a good knowledge of Russia.

The problem is that Russian guns are often illegal and appear in no statistics.

The same is true of many countries with very large mafia and organised crime families, such as Estonia and Mexico.

Thus, they are not a great basis for comparison on anything.

You are full of shit.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Then why do countries which ban guns have few murders and little crime?

Why do you keep repeating this lie? See how that works?

Because it remains largely true.

Yes, the UK has a higher rate of knife crime and muggings, but the murder rate is a fraction of that in the US.

Comparisons with Russia show some real desperation - why not use Japan as basis for comparison instead?

You are full of dog shit

In a recent UK poll


UK Poll Finds Brits Want to Repeal Gun Ban | OutdoorHub

Yes, genius - a poll in which we know Americans voted. Jesus wept....the gullibility just takes the breath away, doesn't it?

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I believe that was someone else. I posted data on crime in the UK.

And thank you for using the quote function.

Ah, yes I did see that.

I don't think there is much mystery there - rates of some minor crimes are higher in the UK than US (but are dropping), while rates of more serious crime are much higher in the US.

Also, rates of knife crime are slightly higher in the US - rates of gun crime are exponentially higher in the US.

It's a no brainer as to which country's laws are functioning more effectively.

How many beheadings do we have here in America?

Police arrest 10th suspect in gruesome beheading, as war memorials defaced; Protests spread through through London - NY Daily News
Maybe if they would repeal the gun ban this would not have happened.

 

[Saigon]

If you removed the mindless,off-topic and often completely illiterate spamming from this thread, it would shrink in size about by about two thirds.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If you removed the mindless,off-topic and often completely illiterate spamming from this thread, it would shrink in size about by about two thirds.

If you would stop lying about what being discussed you would see that it's not off topic.

 

[skookerasbil]

Brand new Harvard study...........

More guns = Less Crime


The figures couldnt be more crystal clear...........

Does Owning Guns Reduce Crime?

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[JoeB131]

Then why do countries which ban guns have few murders and little crime?

Why do you keep repeating this lie? See how that works?

Denial is how you avoid reality?

Just pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist?

 

[JoeB131]

Russia is far more similar to the US and its size, amount of rural area, relatively low population desnity and high rate of gun ownership

Really?

So you do not consider race or immigration to be factors in gun use?

Nor the shift from communist control to capitalism, presumably?

Interesting.

Or the complete collapse of a huge military machine.