Obama and Hagal screwing over all Military again to pay for Obama-Care and welfare.

[OriginalShroom]

Obama can't spend enough on welfare or aid to Illegals, but the military? He is fucking them/us raw again.

Hagel Explains Pay and Benefit Cuts to Troops | Military.com

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel met with troops face-to-face Tuesday for the first time since he introduced a defense budget proposal that cuts service members' pay and benefits.

In a town hall meeting with soldiers at Fort Eustis, Va., Hagel said that "what we're proposing we think is fair" to slow the growth of pay and benefits to allow for improvements in readiness and modernization in a smaller force after the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

His remarks were greeted respectfully by the soldiers. There was no applause, but the questions put to Hagel were direct and unemotional.

Hagel cited the Basic Allowance for Housing as an example in the Pentagon's first overall effort to pare back benefits in the all-volunteer era of the military.

"You all get 100 percent" in the BAH, Hagel told the troops. "You don't pay anything." In the coming years, troops would be asked to pay five percent of the BAH under the proposals in the Pentagon's Fiscal Year 2015 budget, Hagel said.

Hagel noted that up until the late 1990s, service members paid 18 percent of BAH.

Hagel stressed to the troops that there will be no pay cuts and, in fact, "there will be pay increases." However, the pay raises will not come at the rate troops had come to expect when defense budgets soared after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

In another cost-cutting measure, the proposed budget called for merging the current three Tricare Prime, Extra and Standard programs into one.

Hagel said "it just makes sense" that the Tricare proposals also included a "slight, modest increase in co-pays for families and working age retirees" in the range of 8-11 percent that would be worked in gradually.

Remember, in Obama's world, they take the increase in costs and cut it by half to make it sound reasonable, so we are really looking at a 16 - 22% increase in costs to military retirees for Tricare, with reduced medical benefits as Tricare Prime is much different than Standard or Extra.

 

[KNB]

The US has spent $2b per week for 12 years trying to win a war in Afghanistan that the CIA designed to never end, and you wonder why America has a struggling economy? Soviet Russia went through the same thing in Afghanistan, as the CIA intended.

Add in another $2-$4t for the pointless Iraq fiasco and you can see that "fiscal Conservatives" don't care about massive debts or deficits.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Here is some more.. Co-pays to see a military doctor??

http://www.pnj.com/article/20140302/NEWS01/303020009/DOD-budget-targets-Tricare-commissaries-housing

• Pay caps — The January 2015 military raise would be capped at one percent, identical to this year’s increase. Flag and general officers would not get a raise in 2015. More pay caps would follow but no one’s pay would be cut, officials emphasize.

• Health insurance — The triple-option Tricare program of Prime, Extra and Standard would be merged into some sort of fee-for-service insurance option, like Standard, for beneficiaries under age 65.

While active duty members still would have access to free healthcare, dependents and working-age retirees would face higher costs to include a share of medical expenses and perhaps a new annual enrollment fee, set initially at $285 for individuals and $569 for families.

Patient costs would be lower if they can access military treatment facilities or use “preferred” providers who offer military discounts. New co-pays would be set for retiree visits to military treatment facilities. Co-pays also would be set for military families and retirees who use emergency rooms inappropriately for routine care.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Obama and Hagal screwing over all Military again to pay for Obama-Care and welfare is horsecrap.

One, the military has to downsize.

Two, a downsized military diminishes stupid-ass neo-conservative overseas adventurism.

 

[OriginalShroom]

The US has spent $2b per week for 12 years trying to win a war in Afghanistan that the CIA designed to never end, and you wonder why America has a struggling economy? Soviet Russia went through the same thing in Afghanistan, as the CIA intended.

Add in another $2-$4t for the pointless Iraq fiasco and you can see that "fiscal Conservatives" don't care about massive debts or deficits.

And what does that have to do with screwing over the pay of the troops and benefits for those who spent at least 20 years serving?

How about this, end all pay to illegals and other immigrants. No more welfare to them at all. No more Government provided schools or medical and use that money for the military pay?

 

[pvsi]

Obama and Hagal screwing over all Military again to pay for Obama-Care and welfare.

How about supporting gangsters and calling it "Obama paying for our brave men with guns in the streets protecting our freedoms from Taliban" - at least it's closer to the truth then serving our country in the middle east, right?

 

[williepete]

 

[OriginalShroom]

Obama and Hagal screwing over all Military again to pay for Obama-Care and welfare is horsecrap.

One, the military has to downsize.

Two, a downsized military diminishes stupid-ass neo-conservative overseas adventurism.

Obama has led the Government for the past 6 years... Aren't these his "overseas adventurism" now?