Obama approves of same sex marriage

[theDoctorisIn]

so obama comes out for it just now and you are saying he has supported it ALL THIS TIME?
You can blame the Gop all you want, this issue is being voted BY THE PEOPLE as it should be

Another "Conservative" calling for direct democracy?

on some things, maybe...lol

I'm guessing you mean on the things that the majority agrees with you on.

 

[Immanuel]

Dunno.

Support for same sex marriage is generational and the president said today his children don't understand why same-sex parents would be treated differently.

"It doesn't make sense to them and frankly, that's the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective," Mr. Obama said.

Sources tell CBS News that First Lady Michelle Obama was heavily involved in the president's change of heart. Mr. Obama said she feels the same way he does. They both believe in the Golden Rule - treat others the way you would want to be treated.

President Obama says Sasha and Malia influenced his stance on gay marriage - CBS News

just like anything else, Obama has no problems using his kids for politics when it suits him..pathetic

I wonder if he will throw them under the bus if he loses in November?

Immie

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Dunno.

Support for same sex marriage is generational and the president said today his children don't understand why same-sex parents would be treated differently.

"It doesn't make sense to them and frankly, that's the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective," Mr. Obama said.

Sources tell CBS News that First Lady Michelle Obama was heavily involved in the president's change of heart. Mr. Obama said she feels the same way he does. They both believe in the Golden Rule - treat others the way you would want to be treated.

President Obama says Sasha and Malia influenced his stance on gay marriage - CBS News

Even kids get it

Of course you would allow children to guide you on how you think.

 

[Stephanie]

Another "Conservative" calling for direct democracy?

on some things, maybe...lol

I'm guessing you mean on the things that the majority agrees with you on.

nope, taxes and other things...homosexual marriage isn't that high on my priority list.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

so obama comes out for it just now and you are saying he has supported it ALL THIS TIME?
You can blame the Gop all you want, this issue is being voted BY THE PEOPLE as it should be

Hardly the point but in point of FACT, he did make an unequivocal statement that he was in favor of marriage equality way back while he was in congress.

What's important is that we ALL work for EQUALITY for every citizen of the US.

Surely ALL you nutty rw's agree with that, right?

 

[rightwinger]

It is not the Republicans doing anything...it is the PEOPLE voting it down, even in liberal haven California...It is you and people like you who are the wrong side of the issue, must suck eh

California vote was six years ago.......a lot has changed

Almost 25% of the population now has access to gay marriage. The world has not ended and most people say.....no big deal

The dinosaur Republicans are the only ones still pissing in the wind

How many blacks disapprove of gay marriages? I hear it's around 65%

Who would have thought blacks actually agree with you?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

on some things, maybe...lol

I'm guessing you mean on the things that the majority agrees with you on.

nope, taxes and other things...homosexual marriage isn't that high on my priority list.

Not surprising that equal rights as guaranteed by THE Constitution would not rank very high on your list.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

on some things, maybe...lol

I'm guessing you mean on the things that the majority agrees with you on.

nope, taxes and other things...homosexual marriage isn't that high on my priority list.

So you think tax policy should be determined by popular vote?

You know a 2-1 majority of Americans support raising taxes on the rich, right?

 

[Stephanie]

so obama comes out for it just now and you are saying he has supported it ALL THIS TIME?
You can blame the Gop all you want, this issue is being voted BY THE PEOPLE as it should be

Hardly the point but in point of FACT, he did make an unequivocal statement that he was in favor of marriage equality way back while he was in congress.

What's important is that we ALL work for EQUALITY for every citizen of the US.

Surely ALL you nutty rw's agree with that, right?

well great, I'm pretty poor will you send me your money you work for so we can be equal? pretty please

 

[rightwinger]

so obama comes out for it just now and you are saying he has supported it ALL THIS TIME?
You can blame the Gop all you want, this issue is being voted BY THE PEOPLE as it should be

The people should never be allowed to vote on what rights others are allowed to have

lol, so now marriage is a right

Always has been

 

[Toro]

Good for Obama.

Now everyone, let's join the 21st century.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

California vote was six years ago.......a lot has changed

Almost 25% of the population now has access to gay marriage. The world has not ended and most people say.....no big deal

The dinosaur Republicans are the only ones still pissing in the wind

How many blacks disapprove of gay marriages? I hear it's around 65%

Who would have thought blacks actually agree with you?

Normal people usually do.

 

[hjmick]

Wow. Gawker kind of ripped the Prez on this...

Barack Obama’s Bullshit Gay Marriage Announcement

ABC News has only released one brief clip of Obama's conversation about gay marriage today, but it seems fairly clear from the network's coverage that his announcement amounts to much less than meets the eye. He now believes that gay couples should be able to marry. He doesn't believe they have a right to do so. This is like saying that black children and white children ought to attend the same schools, but if the people of Alabama reject that notion—what are you gonna do?

The key language in the ABC News write-up is this:

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own.

...

Well, before Roe v. Wade, abortion was a state-by-state issue, too. So was slavery. There are 44 states in which gay men and women are currently barred from marrying one another. Obama's position is that, while he would have voted the other way, those 44 states are perfectly within their rights to arbitrarily restrict the access of certain individuals to marriage rights based solely on their sexual orientation.

That is a half-assed, cowardly cop-out. There are currently at least three cases winding their way toward federal courts that address the issue of whether (among other things) the equal protection clause of the constitution guarantees gay men and women the same access to marriage rights as heterosexual men and women—the Proposition 8 case, in which David Boies and Ted Olson challenged California's ban on gay marriage, and several challenges to the Defense of Marriage Act, which bars gay men and woman from receiving federal marriage benefits and allows states to refuse to recognize valid gay marriages. Obama's Justice Department has admirably declined to defend the constitutionality of DOMA. But the position he enunciated today is in opposition to Boies and Olson: Obama is saying that if he were a judge, he would have rejected Boies and Olson's constitutional arguments and affirmed the right of Californians to enshrine bigotry in their state constitution.

Equality is not a state-by-state issue. There is no reason other than ignorance and hatred that two men can get married in New York and not North Carolina. At a time when vindictive hucksters are rolling out anti-gay marriage amendments across the nation, and when conflicting state and federal laws portend an insoluble morass of divorce, custody, and estate issues, and when gay Americans are turning to the U.S. Constitution and the courts to seek an affirmation of their humanity, "it's a state-by-state issue" is a shameful dodge...

...This was obviously a hastily arranged interview—we're told that ABC News' Robin Roberts, who is close to Michelle Obama, was only tapped in the last 48 hours by the White House to come down—designed to clean up the mess left by Biden's pro-gay marriage comments in as advantageous way as possible. And for Obama to declare that he considers North Carolina and other states' bans on gay marriage to be unconstitutional would probably energize the GOP base... Obama is moving backward, not forward.


Barack Obama’s Bullshit Gay Marriage Announcement

I guess you can't please all of the people all of the time.

I did my best to meet the requirements for posting an article, but there was just too much good stuff...

 

[candycorn]

Obama tells Robin Roberts of ABC.

Bush league move (no pun intended) by Obama.

 

[Ravi]

Another "Conservative" calling for direct democracy?

on some things, maybe...lol

I'm guessing you mean on the things that the majority agrees with you on.

I don't think that's it really. More likely she likes direct democracy when it keeps people in their place....not a true conservative stance, but this is Stephanie.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Good for Obama.

Now everyone, let's join the 21st century.

If Gays are born Gay , are Pedophiles born that way to

Yes let's do.

 

[candycorn]

Good for Obama.

Now everyone, let's join the 21st century.

I would agree if you if he had one it earlier--any time up until today in fact in the glow of this incredibly moronic move by NC; Today it looks like political opportunism. Good move but for the wrong reasons.

 

[Oddball]

Good for Obama.

Now everyone, let's join the 21st century.

1) It's not a federal issue....Boiking's commentary is pure pandering and misdirection from the real issues that people outside of the moonbat left care about.

2) No matter how you try to contort the issue, there is no right to a license, by the very nature of the term "license".

 

[Stephanie]

on some things, maybe...lol

I'm guessing you mean on the things that the majority agrees with you on.

I don't think that's it really. More likely she likes direct democracy when it keeps people in their place....not a true conservative stance, but this is Stephanie.

Well hell then, how can I keep you in your place?
good gawd almighty

 

[BDBoop]

But they can't GET said license, therefore.

Pretty sad when you have to twist semantics to make your case. "Oh, none of us has a right to get married." Bullshit, what with all of us getting married, n'all.