Obama approves of same sex marriage

[bigrebnc1775]

Good for Obama.

Now everyone, let's join the 21st century.

I would agree if you if he had one it earlier--any time up until today in fact in the glow of this incredibly moronic move by NC; Today it looks like political opportunism. Good move but for the wrong reasons.

It's a stupid move on obama's part he may lose his black base over this. since a large majority of blacks disapprove of gay marriages.

 

[Oddball]

But they can't GET said license, therefore.

Pretty sad when you have to twist semantics to make your case. "Oh, none of us has a right to get married." Bullshit, what with all of us getting married, n'all.

Tough fucking shit....There's still no right to a license.

Nobody is stopping anyone from drawing up their own common law marriage contracts.

 

[Ravi]

Wow. Gawker kind of ripped the Prez on this...

Barack Obama’s Bullshit Gay Marriage Announcement

ABC News has only released one brief clip of Obama's conversation about gay marriage today, but it seems fairly clear from the network's coverage that his announcement amounts to much less than meets the eye. He now believes that gay couples should be able to marry. He doesn't believe they have a right to do so. This is like saying that black children and white children ought to attend the same schools, but if the people of Alabama reject that notion—what are you gonna do?

The key language in the ABC News write-up is this:

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own.

...

Well, before Roe v. Wade, abortion was a state-by-state issue, too. So was slavery. There are 44 states in which gay men and women are currently barred from marrying one another. Obama's position is that, while he would have voted the other way, those 44 states are perfectly within their rights to arbitrarily restrict the access of certain individuals to marriage rights based solely on their sexual orientation.

That is a half-assed, cowardly cop-out. There are currently at least three cases winding their way toward federal courts that address the issue of whether (among other things) the equal protection clause of the constitution guarantees gay men and women the same access to marriage rights as heterosexual men and women—the Proposition 8 case, in which David Boies and Ted Olson challenged California's ban on gay marriage, and several challenges to the Defense of Marriage Act, which bars gay men and woman from receiving federal marriage benefits and allows states to refuse to recognize valid gay marriages. Obama's Justice Department has admirably declined to defend the constitutionality of DOMA. But the position he enunciated today is in opposition to Boies and Olson: Obama is saying that if he were a judge, he would have rejected Boies and Olson's constitutional arguments and affirmed the right of Californians to enshrine bigotry in their state constitution.

Equality is not a state-by-state issue. There is no reason other than ignorance and hatred that two men can get married in New York and not North Carolina. At a time when vindictive hucksters are rolling out anti-gay marriage amendments across the nation, and when conflicting state and federal laws portend an insoluble morass of divorce, custody, and estate issues, and when gay Americans are turning to the U.S. Constitution and the courts to seek an affirmation of their humanity, "it's a state-by-state issue" is a shameful dodge...

...This was obviously a hastily arranged interview—we're told that ABC News' Robin Roberts, who is close to Michelle Obama, was only tapped in the last 48 hours by the White House to come down—designed to clean up the mess left by Biden's pro-gay marriage comments in as advantageous way as possible. And for Obama to declare that he considers North Carolina and other states' bans on gay marriage to be unconstitutional would probably energize the GOP base... Obama is moving backward, not forward.


Barack Obama’s Bullshit Gay Marriage Announcement

I guess you can't please all of the people all of the time.

I did my best to meet the requirements for posting an article, but there was just too much good stuff...

Well, he's wrong, then. It isn't a state's right to deny equal protection under the constitution.

But this is Gawker so who knows how much they twisted his position.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

But they can't GET said license, therefore.

Pretty sad when you have to twist semantics to make your case. "Oh, none of us has a right to get married." Bullshit, what with all of us getting married, n'all.

I did not bitch and whine when Massachusetts legalize gay marriage in it's state? It's time for you idiots to shut the fuck up and leave North Carolina alone.

 

[Ravi]

Good for Obama.

Now everyone, let's join the 21st century.

If Gays are born Gay , are Pedophiles born that way to

Yes let's do.

Why are you always trying to equate gays with pedophiles? Is this a personal issue for you?

 

[BDBoop]

But they can't GET said license, therefore.

Pretty sad when you have to twist semantics to make your case. "Oh, none of us has a right to get married." Bullshit, what with all of us getting married, n'all.

Tough fucking shit....There's still no right to a license.

Nobody is stopping anyone from drawing up their own common law marriage contracts.

Tough FUCKING SHIT, they shouldn't HAVE to. They should have the same rights/privileges/whatever the FUCK you want to call it, that we do.

 

[beagle9]

Obama tells Robin Roberts of ABC.

He speaks out on stuff like this for political reasons, and all for votes, but he refused to speak out and/or had remained silent when Spike Lee gave out the address for a lynchmob to take action against an American citizen who had not been charged with a crime as of yet, as well as also not speaking out when the Black Panthers called for the man George Zimmermans head, after putting a bounty on it ??

This stuff of (speaking on behalf of specific groups for votes only) is just to readable & very devisive anymore these days ya know.. Do the American people even know who they are anymore, especially in the wake of this kind of tactic that has been the norm in America from our leaders, and especially when it comes to winning the voter blocks in America for say the past 25 years or more as a strategy ??? Hmmmm I guess silence is a way to win voters also in America these days, especially on certain issues, now isn't it ?

Fairness & balanced representation is what the American people long for, and they are not getting it in these elections, and especially not from these canidates anymore or so it seems.

 

[Papageorgio]

The economy is very slow to recover, unemployment remains high.we're devaluing the dollar.

WHO THE HELL CAN AFFORD TO GET MARRIED!

 

[BDBoop]

Obama tells Robin Roberts of ABC.

He speaks out on stuff like this for political reasons, and all for votes, but he refused to speak out and/or had remained silent when Spike Lee gave out the address for a lynchmob to take action against an American citizen who had not been charged with a crime as of yet, as well as also not speaking out when the Black Panthers called for the man George Zimmermans head, after putting a bounty on it ??

This stuff of (speaking on behalf of specific groups for votes only) is just to readable & very devisive anymore these days ya know.. Do the American people even know who they are anymore, especially in the wake of this kind of tactic that has been the norm in America from our leaders, and especially when it comes to winning the voter blocks in America for say the past 25 years or more as a strategy ??? Hmmmm I guess silence is a way to win voters also in America these days, especially on certain issues, now isn't it ?

Fairness & balanced representation is what the American people long for, and they are not getting it in these elections, and especially not from these canidates anymore or so it seems.

Is it against your personal belief system to stay on topic.

 

[BDBoop]

The economy is very slow to recover, unemployment remains high.we're devaluing the dollar.

WHO THE HELL CAN AFFORD TO GET MARRIED!

Gays can.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Given President Obama’s faults and failures, and there are indeed many, and the faults and failures of liberals and democrats in general, and there are again indeed many, this will always be the great advantage they have over republicans and conservatives: their understanding of the Constitution, support of its case law, and acknowledgement of the original intent of the Framers.

This also creates a stark contrast between Obama and Romney, where the president is in compliance with the fundamental tenets of the 14th Amendment: equal access to the law for all Americans.

For Romney, however, this demonstrates his contempt for, or perhaps ignorance of, that same mandate of the Amendment. Like most conservatives Romney has disdain for individual liberty, and seeks greater government authority at the expense of that liberty.

 

[Ravi]

But they can't GET said license, therefore.

Pretty sad when you have to twist semantics to make your case. "Oh, none of us has a right to get married." Bullshit, what with all of us getting married, n'all.

Tough fucking shit....There's still no right to a license.

Nobody is stopping anyone from drawing up their own common law marriage contracts.

Right, and no one is stopping them from marrying people of the opposite sex.....

And you call yourself a libertarian.

 

[Oddball]

But they can't GET said license, therefore.

Pretty sad when you have to twist semantics to make your case. "Oh, none of us has a right to get married." Bullshit, what with all of us getting married, n'all.

Tough fucking shit....There's still no right to a license.

Nobody is stopping anyone from drawing up their own common law marriage contracts.

Tough FUCKING SHIT, they shouldn't HAVE to. They should have the same rights/privileges/whatever the FUCK you want to call it, that we do.

First you say people have a right to a marriage license...Then when it's correctly pointed out that the very nature of the term "license" means permission grated by another party, you get your ass all out of whack and accuse people of playing semantics....Words have real legal meanings...Deal with it.

Whether or not one person "should" be given permission is entirely irrelevant to the matter.

Anyone - Read: ANYONE- who goes begging to the state, in order to exercise something that is completely within their right to obtain by other means, is a stupid mothafucka to start with.

You want to celebrate the right to be a stupid mothafucka, that's your funeral...But don't pretend that people rooted in reality have any obligation to live life in Stupidmothafuckaland.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I have nothing but respect for the man. Talk about being true to your convictions. He made this announcement in an election year, six months before we vote. Knowing what it could cost him. NOTHING but admiration and respect, Mr. President. Thank you.

You're too easy. He made this decision now because gay groups announced THEY WOULD NOT DONATE until he made public his position. The man was bought.

Disgusting

 

[Valerie]

A good one, IMO!

 

[Oddball]

I have nothing but respect for the man. Talk about being true to your convictions. He made this announcement in an election year, six months before we vote. Knowing what it could cost him. NOTHING but admiration and respect, Mr. President. Thank you.

You're too easy. He made this decision now because gay groups announced THEY WOULD NOT DONATE until he made public his position. The man was bought.

Disgusting

There's not even "true to your convictions" involved...Three years ago he was unambiguously against gay marriage....I posted the quote and link earlier in the thread.

This is just another mindless swoon by the mindless Boiking zombie army.

 

[rightwinger]

I have nothing but respect for the man. Talk about being true to your convictions. He made this announcement in an election year, six months before we vote. Knowing what it could cost him. NOTHING but admiration and respect, Mr. President. Thank you.

You're too easy. He made this decision now because gay groups announced THEY WOULD NOT DONATE until he made public his position. The man was bought.

Disgusting

Obama should have made this announcement three years ago. But better late than never

Still waiting for ANY Republican to draw the same conclusion the majority of Americans have already made...... It is no big deal if we allow gays to marry

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I have nothing but respect for the man. Talk about being true to your convictions. He made this announcement in an election year, six months before we vote. Knowing what it could cost him. NOTHING but admiration and respect, Mr. President. Thank you.

You're too easy. He made this decision now because gay groups announced THEY WOULD NOT DONATE until he made public his position. The man was bought.

Disgusting

Obama should have made this announcement three years ago. But better late than never

Still waiting for ANY Republican to draw the same conclusion the majority of Americans have already made...... It is no big deal if we allow gays to marry

Majority of Americans? Wtf are you smoking. It's been voted down over and over again.

Put the pot down.

 

[Political Junky]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Public opinion about gay marriage has changed so rapidly that President Barack Obama's historic embrace of it may pose as many political risks to Republicans as to the president and his fellow Democrats.
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The Associated Press: Analysis: Obama gambles with gay marriage move

 

[rightwinger]

You're too easy. He made this decision now because gay groups announced THEY WOULD NOT DONATE until he made public his position. The man was bought.

Disgusting

Obama should have made this announcement three years ago. But better late than never

Still waiting for ANY Republican to draw the same conclusion the majority of Americans have already made...... It is no big deal if we allow gays to marry

Majority of Americans? Wtf are you smoking. It's been voted down over and over again.

Put the pot down.

You need to do a better job of following current events