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You know what, I used to believe that crap, but watching how the private sector pits people who want to work against each other, keeping us all fighting over the last cookie, I kind of doubt it.
How's this for a trade. We replace all welfare with workfare. You get a check, but you have to be doing something useful to earn it.
And we tax the wealthy at an appropriate rate to pay for it.
Sounds fair to me.
we already tax the wealthy. don't tax the wealthy anything more until the 50% of so called Americans who don't currently pay.. pay.. that's what sounds fair to me.
Okay, so you think we should tax little children, then? Because when you talk about the 50% who pay no income tax, that includes children. And Retired people. And people with disabilities.
As I pointed out earlier, it's dishonest to use that figure because those who do earn incomes that are so low the IRS doesn't bother with them are still paying sales taxes, property taxes, and so on.
You know what, I used to believe that crap, but watching how the private sector pits people who want to work against each other, keeping us all fighting over the last cookie, I kind of doubt it.
How's this for a trade. We replace all welfare with workfare. You get a check, but you have to be doing something useful to earn it.
And we tax the wealthy at an appropriate rate to pay for it.
Sounds fair to me.
we already tax the wealthy. don't tax the wealthy anything more until the 50% of so called Americans who don't currently pay.. pay.. that's what sounds fair to me.
Okay, so you think we should tax little children, then? Because when you talk about the 50% who pay no income tax, that includes children. And Retired people. And people with disabilities.
As I pointed out earlier, it's dishonest to use that figure because those who do earn incomes that are so low the IRS doesn't bother with them are still paying sales taxes, property taxes, and so on.
You know what, I used to believe that crap, but watching how the private sector pits people who want to work against each other, keeping us all fighting over the last cookie, I kind of doubt it.
How's this for a trade. We replace all welfare with workfare. You get a check, but you have to be doing something useful to earn it.
And we tax the wealthy at an appropriate rate to pay for it.
Sounds fair to me.
we already tax the wealthy. don't tax the wealthy anything more until the 50% of so called Americans who don't currently pay.. pay.. that's what sounds fair to me.
Payroll tax
Sales Tax
Property Tax
Shut the Fuck up.
here's the facts,, democrats have murdered millions of America's unborn so now,, don't try to tell us we need new youth from another shithole of a country.. that damn dog don't hunt.
Um, yeah, the prisons are filled with people who avoided abortion, unfortunately.
I don't want to share my streets with millions of people whose parents never wanted them to start with.
So which GOP candidate did you support Joe?
When and where?
I gave Perry a good look until I realized he was stupid. I gave Gingrich a good look, I think he's a smart guy. In the end, I voted for Santorum in the primary because I think Santorum is one of these guys who actually gets it that the worst part of this recession is the impact it's having on working class folks, not that Mitt Can't afford a new Car Elevator.
we already tax the wealthy. don't tax the wealthy anything more until the 50% of so called Americans who don't currently pay.. pay.. that's what sounds fair to me.
Payroll tax
Sales Tax
Property Tax
Shut the Fuck up.
Some on the right discount taxes paid primarily by Americans; tax cuts for those outside the US is AOK with them. And do not forget USER FEES, Court costs, parking at government buildings, fuel taxes, and even copying costs at Courthouses, all have have skyrocketed.* The filing fees in Florida increased 250% in ONE day, post 'Bush tax cut'. His Saudi brethren cleaned up however.
*Jeb! Bush used a cute trick; Florida did not raise the sales tax percentage, more items are now subject to the tax however.
you can point it out till the cows come home.. 50% of Americans pay FEDERAl Income taxes.. 50% do not.. and the 50% who do pay all the other taxes to which you refer.. so you're the one being dishonest here.
There have been various versions of the DREAM Act introduced in the Congress since 2001, with both Republican and Democratic support. One version (H.R.5281) passed the House in 2010 on a 216-198 vote, but it later died in the Senate by failing to achieve cloture 55-41 (and 4 not voting). A Senate version also made to the Senate in 2005 (S.2205) when it failed a cloture vote 52-44 (and 4 not voting). As best I can tell, all other versions of the bill died in committee in both chambers (but I may be overlooking something). However, what we can see in terms of recorded votes that there has been majority support in the congress, at times, for the bill[.] [T]he rules of the Senate have precluded passage since twice the measure failed to achieve cloture.
you can point it out till the cows come home.. 50% of Americans pay FEDERAl Income taxes.. 50% do not.. and the 50% who do pay all the other taxes to which you refer.. so you're the one being dishonest here.
But federal income taxes aren't the only taxes there are...
There are a whole slew of other taxes that hit working poor just as hard as the rich are hit by a wopping top income tax rate of 35%.
I make mid five figures, and when you calculate all my taxes together, I'm paying a lot more of a percentage than Mitt Romney does on his Cayman Island Bank stash.
you can point it out till the cows come home.. 50% of Americans pay FEDERAl Income taxes.. 50% do not.. and the 50% who do pay all the other taxes to which you refer.. so you're the one being dishonest here.
But federal income taxes aren't the only taxes there are...
There are a whole slew of other taxes that hit working poor just as hard as the rich are hit by a wopping top income tax rate of 35%.
I make mid five figures, and when you calculate all my taxes together, I'm paying a lot more of a percentage than Mitt Romney does on his Cayman Island Bank stash.
we already tax the wealthy. don't tax the wealthy anything more until the 50% of so called Americans who don't currently pay.. pay.. that's what sounds fair to me.
Shut the Fuck up.
Nice mouth~
Except when a discussion about increasing taxes on the wealthy is mentioned they are not discussing Payroll tax; Sales Tax or Property Tax- of which the wealthy also pay. No, the discussion is about federal income taxes now isn't it <rhetorical question>
we already tax the wealthy. don't tax the wealthy anything more until the 50% of so called Americans who don't currently pay.. pay.. that's what sounds fair to me.
Okay, so you think we should tax little children, then? Because when you talk about the 50% who pay no income tax, that includes children. And Retired people. And people with disabilities.
As I pointed out earlier, it's dishonest to use that figure because those who do earn incomes that are so low the IRS doesn't bother with them are still paying sales taxes, property taxes, and so on.
No, Joe, it does not. The stats are directly related to working Americans.
The Tax Policy Center has tried to correct Fox News and the right wing medias misuse of their research. In April 2010, Howard Glickman of the TPC wrote,
Let me explainrepeat actuallywhat this means: About half of taxpayers paid no federal income tax last year. It does not mean they paid no tax at all. Many shelled out Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes. In fact, only 14 percent of Americans didnt pay either income or payroll taxes. Some paid property taxes and, it is fair to say, just about all of them paid sales taxes of one kind or another. So to say they pay no taxes is flat wrong.
However, this class warfare-like rhetoric plays to a perception that the income tax is a chump tax: Only hard-working folks like us pay it. The welfare queens dont. The super-rich dont. It is a powerful emotional argument. It is also flat wrong.
The actual number of Americans who dont pay any taxes isnt half, but 14%. This group of non-taxpayers of any kind is largely composed of the elderly and disabled. The people who dont pay taxes do so because they cant work.
you can point it out till the cows come home.. 50% of Americans pay FEDERAl Income taxes.. 50% do not.. and the 50% who do pay all the other taxes to which you refer.. so you're the one being dishonest here.
But federal income taxes aren't the only taxes there are...
There are a whole slew of other taxes that hit working poor just as hard as the rich are hit by a wopping top income tax rate of 35%.
I make mid five figures, and when you calculate all my taxes together, I'm paying a lot more of a percentage than Mitt Romney does on his Cayman Island Bank stash.
No one on the right has discounted any of that shit liar.. we pay all those taxes in addition to carrrying the load of the 50% who pay FEDERAL income tax as opposed to you 50% who represent the leeches who don't pay FEDERAL Income tax but cry for more more more.. you don't pay that's fine but don't screech for more from us who do pay.. asswipe
you can point it out till the cows come home.. 50% of Americans pay FEDERAl Income taxes.. 50% do not.. and the 50% who do pay all the other taxes to which you refer.. so you're the one being dishonest here.
But federal income taxes aren't the only taxes there are...
There are a whole slew of other taxes that hit working poor just as hard as the rich are hit by a wopping top income tax rate of 35%.
I make mid five figures, and when you calculate all my taxes together, I'm paying a lot more of a percentage than Mitt Romney does on his Cayman Island Bank stash.
okay, so you think we should tax little children, then? Because when you talk about the 50% who pay no income tax, that includes children. And retired people. And people with disabilities.
As i pointed out earlier, it's dishonest to use that figure because those who do earn incomes that are so low the irs doesn't bother with them are still paying sales taxes, property taxes, and so on.
no, joe, it does not. The stats are directly related to working americans.
actually, no, it's a myth..
it's a myth that 47% of americans pay no taxes, in truth 86% pay taxes
the tax policy center has tried to correct fox news and the right wing medias misuse of their research. In april 2010, howard glickman of the tpc wrote,
let me explainrepeat actuallywhat this means: About half of taxpayers paid no federal income tax last year. It does not mean they paid no tax at all. Many shelled out social security and medicare payroll taxes. In fact, only 14 percent of americans didnt pay either income or payroll taxes. Some paid property taxes and, it is fair to say, just about all of them paid sales taxes of one kind or another. So to say they pay no taxes is flat wrong.
However, this class warfare-like rhetoric plays to a perception that the income tax is a chump tax: Only hard-working folks like us pay it. The welfare queens dont. The super-rich dont. It is a powerful emotional argument. It is also flat wrong.
The actual number of americans who dont pay any taxes isnt half, but 14%. This group of non-taxpayers of any kind is largely composed of the elderly and disabled. The people who dont pay taxes do so because they cant work.
Funny, I see people flying Irish flags on St. Paddy's day and people flying Italian flags on Columbus Day and people flying Polish flags on whatever the Poles celebrate here in Chicago.
If your not a native American, your ancestors didn't stay in whatever shithole of a country they came from, and you don't whine about that.
Because they are white.
Well, goodie, based on your very own statement, you can get the hell out of my country and go back to where you came from.
Well, actually, I'm 1/8th Native American, so I probably have stronger ties than you do.
But the point being, you guys who get all upset about the Mexicans flying their flag don't seem all that bothered when the Europeans fly their flags.
you can point it out till the cows come home.. 50% of Americans pay FEDERAl Income taxes.. 50% do not.. and the 50% who do pay all the other taxes to which you refer.. so you're the one being dishonest here.
But federal income taxes aren't the only taxes there are...
There are a whole slew of other taxes that hit working poor just as hard as the rich are hit by a wopping top income tax rate of 35%.
I make mid five figures, and when you calculate all my taxes together, I'm paying a lot more of a percentage than Mitt Romney does on his Cayman Island Bank stash.
But those ARE the taxes being discussed when you demand the wealthy pay more... Let's at least try and stay intellectually honest and relevant Joe.
Okay, so you think we should tax little children, then? Because when you talk about the 50% who pay no income tax, that includes children. And Retired people. And people with disabilities.
As I pointed out earlier, it's dishonest to use that figure because those who do earn incomes that are so low the IRS doesn't bother with them are still paying sales taxes, property taxes, and so on.
No, Joe, it does not. The stats are directly related to working Americans.
Actually, no, it's a myth..
It's A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes
The Tax Policy Center has tried to correct Fox News and the right wing medias misuse of their research. In April 2010, Howard Glickman of the TPC wrote,
Let me explainrepeat actuallywhat this means: About half of taxpayers paid no federal income tax last year. It does not mean they paid no tax at all. Many shelled out Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes. In fact, only 14 percent of Americans didnt pay either income or payroll taxes. Some paid property taxes and, it is fair to say, just about all of them paid sales taxes of one kind or another. So to say they pay no taxes is flat wrong.
However, this class warfare-like rhetoric plays to a perception that the income tax is a chump tax: Only hard-working folks like us pay it. The welfare queens dont. The super-rich dont. It is a powerful emotional argument. It is also flat wrong.
The actual number of Americans who dont pay any taxes isnt half, but 14%. This group of non-taxpayers of any kind is largely composed of the elderly and disabled. The people who dont pay taxes do so because they cant work.
But federal income taxes aren't the only taxes there are...
There are a whole slew of other taxes that hit working poor just as hard as the rich are hit by a wopping top income tax rate of 35%.
I make mid five figures, and when you calculate all my taxes together, I'm paying a lot more of a percentage than Mitt Romney does on his Cayman Island Bank stash.
But those ARE the taxes being discussed when you demand the wealthy pay more... Let's at least try and stay intellectually honest and relevant Joe.
I'm being completely relevent.. you are the ones who keeps going off into the weeds by repeating this MYTH about how half hte country are tax cheats..
Fact is, the country works best when the rich pay their fair share and we get consumer activity due to investment in infrastructure.
The dirty little secret of the Reagan years. Reagan might have taxed liked a supply sider, but he spent like a Keynesian.
