Obama has an epiphany. Finally admits we are at war.

We are already in a war with Al Qaida. The underwar bomber acted as an agent of Al Qaida.

he did....did you see the orders he recieved from Al Qaida or is he just a fucking nut who is going to get his just sentence like sooo many other nuts have from the US courts?

Of course. Good point. Unless Jay, the Schmucky Canucky from Cunuckystain, personally SEES the "orders" of a non-uniformed unlawful enemy combatant, then the unlawful enemy combatant cannot have been an agent of that enemy! That makes perfectly good sense!

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so you have no proof whatsoever that this nutbar was acting under anything other than his own direction....thanx for playing.:eusa_whistle:
 
he did....did you see the orders he recieved from Al Qaida or is he just a fucking nut who is going to get his just sentence like sooo many other nuts have from the US courts?

Of course. Good point. Unless Jay, the Schmucky Canucky from Cunuckystain, personally SEES the "orders" of a non-uniformed unlawful enemy combatant, then the unlawful enemy combatant cannot have been an agent of that enemy! That makes perfectly good sense!

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so you have no proof whatsoever that this nutbar was acting under anything other than his own direction....thanx for playing.:eusa_whistle:

You have some proof that he hadn't gotten his directions while at the al qaeda training camp?

No?

That's fine. I didn't imagine you'd ever come up with anything honest or meritoroius.
 
well I guess Lie-Ability and Mike can write a letter to Bush and tell him there is a connection!

No Proof Connects Iraq to 9/11, Bush Says
No Proof Connects Iraq to 9/11, Bush Says - Los Angeles Times

Jay, the infinitely douchey asshat from Canuckystain, still cannot get it though his idiot pinhead that nobody is claiming that there was ever a connection between Saddam and the 9/11/2001 attacks./quote]

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Nobody tried to claim that huh?

Bush - "Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons. If the Iraqi regime is able to produce, buy, or steal an amount of highly-enriched uranium a little larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year. And if we allow that to happen, a terrible line would be crossed. Saddam Hussein would be in a position to blackmail anyone who opposes his aggression. He would be in a position to dominate the Middle East. He would be in a position to threaten America. And Saddam Hussein would be in a position to pass nuclear technology to terrorists.
Some citizens wonder: After 11 years of living with this problem, why do we need to confront it now? There is a reason. We have experienced the horror of September 11. We have seen that those who hate America are willing to crash airplanes into buildings full of innocent people. Our enemies would be no less willing -- in fact they would be eager -- to use a biological, or chemical, or a nuclear weapon.
Knowing these realities, America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."

CNN.com - Bush: Don't wait for mushroom cloud - Oct. 6, 2002
 
well I guess Lie-Ability and Mike can write a letter to Bush and tell him there is a connection!

No Proof Connects Iraq to 9/11, Bush Says
No Proof Connects Iraq to 9/11, Bush Says - Los Angeles Times

Jay, the infinitely douchey asshat from Canuckystain, still cannot get it though his idiot pinhead that nobody is claiming that there was ever a connection between Saddam and the 9/11/2001 attacks./quote]

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Nobody tried to claim that huh?

Bush - "Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons. If the Iraqi regime is able to produce, buy, or steal an amount of highly-enriched uranium a little larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year. And if we allow that to happen, a terrible line would be crossed. Saddam Hussein would be in a position to blackmail anyone who opposes his aggression. He would be in a position to dominate the Middle East. He would be in a position to threaten America. And Saddam Hussein would be in a position to pass nuclear technology to terrorists.
Some citizens wonder: After 11 years of living with this problem, why do we need to confront it now? There is a reason. We have experienced the horror of September 11. We have seen that those who hate America are willing to crash airplanes into buildings full of innocent people. Our enemies would be no less willing -- in fact they would be eager -- to use a biological, or chemical, or a nuclear weapon.
Knowing these realities, America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."

CNN.com - Bush: Don't wait for mushroom cloud - Oct. 6, 2002

Your quote has no connection to your contention.

Noting that Saddam was seeking materiel that could become weapons in the hands of terrorists (or weapons in his own hands) does NOT support your idiot claim that anybody had said that Saddam and al qaeda were linked relative to the 9/11/2001 attacks.

Leave it to an imbecile from Canuckystain to offer a "quote" that doesn't prove whatever the fuck it is he is hoping to establish. :cuckoo:

You are also an imbecile with regard to the very simple "quote" function, too, Schmucky.
 
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Of course. Good point. Unless Jay, the Schmucky Canucky from Cunuckystain, personally SEES the "orders" of a non-uniformed unlawful enemy combatant, then the unlawful enemy combatant cannot have been an agent of that enemy! That makes perfectly good sense!

:cuckoo:


so you have no proof whatsoever that this nutbar was acting under anything other than his own direction....thanx for playing.:eusa_whistle:

You have some proof that he hadn't gotten his directions while at the al qaeda training camp?

No?

That's fine. I didn't imagine you'd ever come up with anything honest or meritoroius.

I guess if you can't prove it was an act of war and you can't prove that he recieved any direct orders from Al Queda it is just as well he will be tried in a U.S court and punished accordingly.
 
Jay, the infinitely douchey asshat from Canuckystain, still cannot get it though his idiot pinhead that nobody is claiming that there was ever a connection between Saddam and the 9/11/2001 attacks./quote]

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Nobody tried to claim that huh?

Bush - "Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons. If the Iraqi regime is able to produce, buy, or steal an amount of highly-enriched uranium a little larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year. And if we allow that to happen, a terrible line would be crossed. Saddam Hussein would be in a position to blackmail anyone who opposes his aggression. He would be in a position to dominate the Middle East. He would be in a position to threaten America. And Saddam Hussein would be in a position to pass nuclear technology to terrorists.
Some citizens wonder: After 11 years of living with this problem, why do we need to confront it now? There is a reason. We have experienced the horror of September 11. We have seen that those who hate America are willing to crash airplanes into buildings full of innocent people. Our enemies would be no less willing -- in fact they would be eager -- to use a biological, or chemical, or a nuclear weapon.
Knowing these realities, America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."

CNN.com - Bush: Don't wait for mushroom cloud - Oct. 6, 2002

Your quote has no connection to your contention.

Noting that Saddam was seeking materiel that could become weapons in the hands of terrorists (or weapons in his own hands) does NOT support your idiot claim that anybody had said that Saddam and al qaeda were linked realtive to the 9/11/2001 attacks.

Leave it to an imbecile from Canuckystain to offer a "quote" that doesn't prove whatever the fuck it is he is hoping to establish. :cuckoo:

You are also an imbecile with regard to the very simple "quote" function, too, Schmucky.

guess you didn't take the time to read the whole speech and see how many times 9-11 and Saddam Hussein was brought up in one sitting?
 
so you have no proof whatsoever that this nutbar was acting under anything other than his own direction....thanx for playing.:eusa_whistle:

You have some proof that he hadn't gotten his directions while at the al qaeda training camp?

No?

That's fine. I didn't imagine you'd ever come up with anything honest or meritoroius.

I guess if you can't prove it was an act of war and you can't prove that he recieved any direct orders from Al Queda it is just as well he will be tried in a U.S court and punished accordingly.

Nobody cares what you "guess," you retarted excuse for a Canuckystain Schmuck.

It is a sub-moronic idea (thus explaining why a sub-moron like you embraces it) to try an enemy combatant in a criminal justice court.
 
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Nobody tried to claim that huh?

Bush - "Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons. If the Iraqi regime is able to produce, buy, or steal an amount of highly-enriched uranium a little larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year. And if we allow that to happen, a terrible line would be crossed. Saddam Hussein would be in a position to blackmail anyone who opposes his aggression. He would be in a position to dominate the Middle East. He would be in a position to threaten America. And Saddam Hussein would be in a position to pass nuclear technology to terrorists.
Some citizens wonder: After 11 years of living with this problem, why do we need to confront it now? There is a reason. We have experienced the horror of September 11. We have seen that those who hate America are willing to crash airplanes into buildings full of innocent people. Our enemies would be no less willing -- in fact they would be eager -- to use a biological, or chemical, or a nuclear weapon.
Knowing these realities, America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."

CNN.com - Bush: Don't wait for mushroom cloud - Oct. 6, 2002

Your quote has no connection to your contention.

Noting that Saddam was seeking materiel that could become weapons in the hands of terrorists (or weapons in his own hands) does NOT support your idiot claim that anybody had said that Saddam and al qaeda were linked realtive to the 9/11/2001 attacks.

Leave it to an imbecile from Canuckystain to offer a "quote" that doesn't prove whatever the fuck it is he is hoping to establish. :cuckoo:

You are also an imbecile with regard to the very simple "quote" function, too, Schmucky.

guess you didn't take the time to read the whole speech and see how many times 9-11 and Saddam Hussein was brought up in one sitting?

In a post-9/11 world, invoking the lessons OF 9/11 is not the same as claiming that Saddam had any connection TO 9/11.

Only liberoidal assbite imbeciles draw such baseless conclusions from such old speeches.
 
it's cool that a Con douche like Lie-Ability is admitting that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 but still insist Bush and the Repubs are # 1 on security..... if only they could come up with the real reason Iraq was invaded.
 
oh yeah it was the WMD's.........oooops... wait a minute.....strike two.



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by Gene Lyons
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Bush told Charlie Gibson, "Saddam Hussein was unwilling to let the inspectors go in to determine whether or not the U.N. resolutions were being upheld." Bush has been peddling this brazen falsehood for years. It's even possible he's come to believe it. In reality, Iraq produced a 12,000-page document on Dec. 7, 2002, explaining the destruction of its chemical and biological weapons. Despite some foot-dragging, Saddam then allowed U.N. inspectors to travel at will inside Iraq searching for forbidden weapons. The inspectors remained until March 2003 when Bush ordered them out ahead of his "shock and awe" bombing campaign. The U.N. inspectors' activities were broadcast on TV daily for weeks. The same kinds of easily manipulated patriots doubtless infuriated by this column were then focusing their ire on chief arms inspector Hans Blix. All conveniently forgotten by Bush, his followers and our intrepid press corps, no longer so much covering for a failed president as for themselves.
 
oh yeah it was the WMD's.........oooops... wait a minute.....strike two.



[SIZE=+1]No regrets, many mistakes[/SIZE]
by Gene Lyons
Link Excerpt:
Bush told Charlie Gibson, "Saddam Hussein was unwilling to let the inspectors go in to determine whether or not the U.N. resolutions were being upheld." Bush has been peddling this brazen falsehood for years. It's even possible he's come to believe it. In reality, Iraq produced a 12,000-page document on Dec. 7, 2002, explaining the destruction of its chemical and biological weapons. Despite some foot-dragging, Saddam then allowed U.N. inspectors to travel at will inside Iraq searching for forbidden weapons. The inspectors remained until March 2003 when Bush ordered them out ahead of his "shock and awe" bombing campaign. The U.N. inspectors' activities were broadcast on TV daily for weeks. The same kinds of easily manipulated patriots doubtless infuriated by this column were then focusing their ire on chief arms inspector Hans Blix. All conveniently forgotten by Bush, his followers and our intrepid press corps, no longer so much covering for a failed president as for themselves.

No no Schmucky. :cuckoo:

We aren't going to re-debate all of the leftist propaganda points.

They were soundly refuted long ago.

It would be better for you to just admit that you've got nothing valid or honest to say and be done with it.
 
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so let's sum it up for the Repubs and Bush on their record for securing the nation - Bush takes more vaction time than just about any other president in the first 6 months of his presidency and the largest foreign attack on U.S soil ever takes place. Bush then vows to capture the bad guys then not only fails but attacks a country that nothing to do with the attack. The next attack takes place and Bush waits 6 days after the shoebomber attack to address the nation and in the meantime the war in Iraq continues to be managed like a 4 year old is in the drivers seat until the end of his presidency. The nation finds itself in the worst shape economically in decades, Katrina shakes the nations confidence in her ability to protect her own citizens in a natural disaster and more laws and civil liberties are cast aside to win the war on a ideology.
 
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so let's sum it up for the Repubs and Bush on their record for securing the nation * * * *

Nobody cares about your summary, you fucking dopey Canuckystain imbecile.

You get the morons that "protect" Canuckystain to worry about Canuckystain.

Americans will address the topic of protecting the United States.
 
I'm sure you dance around your little dark room in some superhero costume or dressed like the your fav Repulidork prez before you leap to your bat-chair where you post your crappola in hope that some fuckin nerd somewhere will actually be scared enuf by your diahrea to vote republican but let's be honest most of even the real retarded ones don't believe it....they're just going along because (just like you) they don't belong to anything else that gives them a sense of identity.
 
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Brian Ross of ABC News reports that two of the four men behind the plot to blow up a U.S. airliner on Christmas Day were actually prisoners of the United States and that, under Bush, were released into a Saudi art rehabilitation program. According to Defense Department records, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi (now known as Muhamad al-Awfi) and Said Ali Shari were released from detention at Guantanamo Bay in 2007 despite allegations of material support for military operations in Afghanistan.

 
so let's sum it up for the Repubs and Bush on their record for securing the nation - Bush takes more vaction time than just about any other president in the first 6 months of his presidency and the largest foreign attack on U.S soil ever takes place. Bush then vows to capture the bad guys then not only fails but attacks a country that nothing to do with the attack. The next attack takes place and Bush waits 6 days after the shoebomber attack to address the nation and in the meantime the war in Iraq continues to be managed like a 4 year old is in the drivers seat until the end of his presidency. The nation finds itself in the worst shape economically in decades, Katrina shakes the nations confidence in her ability to protect her own citizens in a natural disaster and more laws and civil liberties are cast aside to win the war on a ideology.

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