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Oh so the mere sight of a person carrying a gun makes you uncomfortable. What about those people who carry but you can't see the gun legally or illegally? I don't have the stats off hand, but I would have to say in my opinion more people are killed by people who had a gun that was hidden on their body.
How long does it take a person to point a gun and pull the twigger? Would a cop would need his gun befor that happen? exactly where do they keep their guns?
Here is a report that was completed in 1997 for the New Zealand Minister of Police
In summary, increases in firearm crime have been less than in all violent crime but have followed its trend sufficiently closely to make it probable that firearm crime is a subset of violent crime, and that violence is leading firearm crime, not the reverse. The level of firearm crime is not increasing in such a way as to suggest a crisis, but it is sufficiently high to give grounds for concern and to require further endeavours to reduce it.
The two recent developments in firearm crime which give particular grounds for concern are the increased numbers of mass shootings, and evidence of increased readiness on the part of criminals to collect guns for use in criminal enterprises.
Review of Firearms Control in New Zealand, June 1997 - New Zealand Police | New Zealand Police
According to these stats which were taken from 2001 - 2008
Interesting fact maybe you can varify this?
New Zealnad leads the world 15 - 24 years old group in suicide
Suicide rates in ages 15-24 by country. Definition, graph and map.
They also lead in Rape victims and have the most assault victims.
NationMaster - New Zealand Crime statistics
If you do not like America's gun culture, do not blame us. Blame the acts of world leaders from the past. When you can guarantee that there will never be another Hitler, Stalin, Mo, Hussein or anyone like them, then we can talk about turning in some guns.
I'm a sport shooter myself so guns don't concern me as such.
Yeah, the thought that every retard on the street might be carrying a gun is concerning.
The numbers of gun crimes committed in this country using hand guns is approximately zero.
I'm not sure what your point is about hidden guns - is that a pitch to ban them for public safety?
Cops generally keep their guns a in a locked cabinet in the boot of their car.
Opening it means paperwork at the end of the shift, as I understand it.
Congratulations on your Googling skills by the way, again I'm not sure of your point.
Could the suicide rates be so high because we are so depressed about not being allowed Glocks or Uzis?
I'm not sure if that has been considered.
As for your justification for carrying guns (another Hitler, Mussolini, Ghengis Khan might pop up at any moment), ummm, isn't that what a national army is there to protect you from?
In fact, if that is your justification why haven't all you gun nuts headed off to North Korea or Burma or Iran or Cuba or wherever to protect the world from the maniacs in charge?
That’s not what you said. and that answer will not work to satisfy the question.
How judgmental of you, to call anyone who does not think as you do a "retard"
1. the word is inappropriate to use.
2. It would be a very dull world if everybody would think like everybody else.
That would be a play of words. Crimes are defined and categorized by government officials. To make something look like something else you twik the report. but your country does have crime such as rape and Assaults? correct?
There you go again with the twist of words. You really need to stop it.
Carry Conceal. After all you are the one thats wants to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
So answer my question.
What about those people who carry but you can't see the gun legally or illegally?
Do you have a problem with Carry Consealed?
Look at your response one more time. hitler and stalin had the support of the army. And thats wat the American second Amendment is for.
In fact, if that is your justification why haven't all you gun nuts headed off to North Korea or Burma or Iran or Cuba or wherever to protect the world from the maniacs in charge
thats for the people in those countries to figure out.
Congratulations on your Googling skills by the way, again I'm not sure of your point.
Could the suicide rates be so high because we are so depressed about not being allowed Glocks or Uzis?
I'm not sure if that has been considered.
Either that is the stuipdist answer or the people of Nw Zealand are very stupid for killing themself for that reason eithe your answer does not look good for the peple fromn your country.
Huh? That's exactly what I said, you even quoted me.That’s not what you said. and that answer will not work to satisfy the question.
Is this you saying "sticks and stones may break my bones..."?How judgmental of you, to call anyone who does not think as you do a "retard"
You've come over all P.C. Bigrednec!1. the word is inappropriate to use.
2. It would be a very dull world if everybody would think like everybody else.
Who would have thunk it?
So how do you categorise a gun crime that doesn't involve a handgun?That would be a play of words. Crimes are defined and categorized by government officials. To make something look like something else you twik the report.
In this country we wouldn't call it a handgun crime but you might be different.
Unfortunately, yes.but your country does have crime such as rape and Assaults? correct?
I don't recall saying I wanted to ban guns.There you go again with the twist of words. You really need to stop it.
Carry Conceal. After all you are the one thats wants to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
So answer my question.
What about those people who carry but you can't see the gun legally or illegally?
Do you have a problem with Carry Consealed?
I own guns.
I don't see the need to carry concealed guns in public places.
You told me in your last post that the reason you carry a gun is to shoot Hitler or Pol Pot if you see him. You must admit that neither of those guys is likely to turn up at WalMart.
You have me there, that would be a very stupid reason to kill yourself.Either that is the stuipdist answer or the people of Nw Zealand are very stupid for killing themself for that reason eithe your answer does not look good for the peple fromn your country.
Yes, thinking about it I think your first option about it being a stupid answer is the correct one.
What would you do if you were no longer allowed to carry a concealed handgun?
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