Obama Just Compared Christianity With Islam…At National Prayer Breakfast

[PaintMyHouse]

And you will be referencing which book or will you simply dictate that you are right, of course you may simply draw a card from the deck of google, so.......

Enjoy: Crimes of Christianity The Crusades

"Such was the carnage in the Mosque of Omar, that the mutilated carcasses were hurried by the torrents of blood into the court; dissevered arms and hands floated into the current that carried them into contact with bodies to which they had not belonged. Ten thousand people were murdered in this sanctuary. It was not only the lacerated and headless trunks which shocked the sight, but the figures of the victors themselves reeking with the blood of their slaughtered enemies. No place of refuge remained to the vanquished, so indiscriminately did the insatiable fanaticism of the conquerors disregard alike supplication and resistance. Some were slain, others were thrown from the tops of the churches and of the citadel." [192:1]"

You'll especially like the beheading and setting afire parts.

And maybe this:


"Michaud remarks that the contemporary Christian historians describe these frightful scenes with perfect equanimity. Even amid recitals of the most disgusting details they "never allow a single expression of horror or pity to escape them." [193:8] Nor did the clergy feel any more compunction than the laymen. There is a letter written by Daimbert, archbishop of Pisa, to the Pope, in which he says: "If you desire to know what became of the enemies we found in Jerusalem, know that in the portico of Solomon and in the temple, our soldiers had the vile blood of the Saracens up to the knees of their horses." [193:9]"

It says headless trunks not beheading, and again you are confusing war with beheading.

So, the Christians, who are not allowed to go to war, can chop off heads in war but Muslims beheading people is barbaric? Is that your position?

Anyone following (what I style as) the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is prohibited from committing violence of any kind against his fellow Man.

And what percent of Christians adhere to that teaching?

Roughly zero, at least here that is. Here they are headed back to the theater to watch American Sniper, for the third time.

 

[JoeB131]

Sure, you can find quotes of beheading in the bible, you just can't find any examples of Christians beheading people in the name of Christianity for the last 2015 years.

Well, that's true. Usually they burned religious offenders at the stake.

It should be pointed out that Christians considered beheading a "humane" form of punishment compared to burning at a stake or drawing and quartering- usually to be reserved for those of wealth and status. and this was the case all the way up until the 19th century, when they decided to be all "egalitarian" and have guillotining for all!
But the thing is, Christians were beheading people all the way up until the last century. Nazi Germany - and sorry, when you have Gott Mit Uns on your belt buckles, you are a christian country - beheaded 16,000 people.

(Waiting for Crazy Elektra to flip out and start showing us pictures of her personal library again...)

 

[Kondor3]

Anyone following (what I style as) the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is prohibited from committing violence of any kind against his fellow Man.

That would be terrific. An actual act of faith. Any idea when such a thing might just happen, for once?

Hundreds of millions of Christians live their lives in varying degrees of proximity to such 'pure' Core Teachings.

And, over the centuries, billions of their ancestors did the same thing.

While even larger numbers of their contemporaries did otherwise.

Nolo contendere.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, it's entirely possible that Obama does not believe in your Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Then again, this so-called Pixie in the Sky is not the issue.

Rather, the issue is the Failed Messiah attempting to lay-down a smoke screen for the enemy - Radical Militant Islam.

And in front of a room dominated primarily by Christians, of all places!

Idiot.

SO your alternative would be for him to go all Fox News and condemn Islam as a religion so we have 1.3 billion Muslims pissed at us instead of a few hundred thousand extremists...

Yeah, that makes sense. Make sure we promise some poor kids a scholarship to go fight that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

..."...And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ."...

Yes, Mister President, except...

1. the Crusades happened the better part of a thousand years ago, whereas Islam is doing this today, during our very lifetimes

2. the Inquisition happened half a thousand years ago, whereas Islam is doing this today, during our very lifetimes

3. when Christians did those things so many centuries ago, they did so in direct violation of the teachings of their Founder, whereas when the Muslims do this today, they do it in obedience to the teachings of their Founder.

Apples and oranges, Mister President.

Oh, and, by the way... are you not supposed to be one of us? So why are you giving aid and comfort to the enemy?

I could find you plenty of Bible Quotes that call for beheadings, guy. So saying that this is against the teachings of Jesus are kind of silly.

Judges 7:25
And they took two princes of the Midianites, Oreb and Zeeb ... and brought the heads of Oreb and Zeeb to Gideon....



1 Samuel 17:57
And as David returned from the slaughter of the Philistine, ... [he] brought ... the head of the Philistine in his hand.


2 Samuel 4:7-8
And they smote him, and slew him, and beheaded him, and took his head ... brought the head of Ishbosheth unto David....


2 Samuel 20:22
And they cut off the head of Sheba the son of Bichri, and cast it out to Joab.


2 Kings 10:7-8
[T]hey took the king's sons, and slew seventy persons, and put their heads in baskets, and sent him them to Jezreel. And there came a messenger, and told him, saying, They have brought the heads of the king's sons. And he said, Lay ye them in two heaps at the entering in of the gate until the morning.

Yes, yes, yes...

Apologists for Radical Islam, and Uber-Liberals - committed to religious egalitarianism despite the savage nature of the alien belief system - always drag-out the violence inherent in the Old Testament, to try and equate Islamic dogma and philosophy with Christian dogma and philosophy...

Here's the problem with that...

The New Testament overrides and supercedes the Old...

Any teachings of Jesus of Nazareth override and supercede conflicting teachings in the Old Testament...

If the Prophet DumAzzKiel from ancient times says that it's OK to spit your enemy's babies on barbeque skewers and eat them with fava beans and a nice chianti...

And if Jesus of Nazareth says that you should "Turn the other cheek" and "Love thy neighbor", then...

Your enemy's babies are safe, after all, because the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth override those of the Old Testament...

Now, mind you, over the centuries, a very great and repeated slaughter has been perpetrated by Christians, in various parts of the domains of Old Christendom...

But, here's the thing...

When Christians slaughtered in the name of God, they did so in obedience-to or in agreement-with Christian clerics and/or Christian royalty who were covering their asses with such concepts as "Just War" and "Defense of the Faith"...

And those concepts - and the actions and great slaughters committed under the aegis of those concepts - were in direct violation of the basic teachings of Jesus of Nazareth - namely: "Turn the other cheek" and "Love thy neighbor".

In effect, churchmen and temporal rulers had devised Juicy Rationalizations to circumvent the unmistakable prohibitions against violence and the unmistakable enjoinders to love, for which Jesus of Nazareth is famed and respected and even worshiped, and which he served-up without caveats or conditions or exceptions during his ministry.

Jesus of Nazareth did not say "Turn the other cheek, unless the other guy is making war on you" nor did he say "Love thy neighbor, unless he is making war on you" nor did he say "Suffer the little children to come unto me, unless they belong to a different tribe or race or religion" - rather, his injunctions are perceived as universal and unconditional.

The great violence committed by Christianity in centuries long-past was the result of mortal and fallible men, misleading others away from those Core Teachings of Jesus.

The Old Testament is there as historical backdrop and as continuity with the monotheistic heritage of Jesus and as metaphorical Morality Play and as a collection of lessons in what to do and what not to do, and as a catch-all bucket for anything not covered by the teachings of Jesus and the writings of the superceding New Testament.

If the subject matter is explicitly or (reasonably) implicitly covered in the New Testament, then the teachings of the New Testament supercede and control.

If the subject matter is not covered in the New Testament, then the teachings of the Old Testament control.

The Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth prohibit violence and warfare of any kind, under any circumstances.

Leaving the warfare and head-taking and baby-skewering of the Old Testament as historical narrative and backdrop, rather than as permission for others to do the same.

Islam, on the other hand, is absolutely saturated with Permissions to Wage War and to commit Violence Against Unbelievers - supposedly, the Word of God himself, as revealed to Muhammed.

Clearly, the Islamic vision of the godhead is a bloodier and more violent vision that that offered to Mankind by Jesus of Nazareth.

Equally clearly, the Founder of Islam was a being of far commoner clay and far more violent than the Founder of Christianity.

It is failure to make and understand and apply these differences, which allows faux equivalences between Islam and Christianity.

But... amongst those who perceive and understand these differences... the far more savage and brutal nature of the Core Teachings of Islam come into a clear focus.

Obumble - the Failed Messiah - is a high-profile purveyor of the falsehood inherent in such faux equivalencies.

It's irrelevant what's in the storybooks.

99% of Muslims manage to live peacefully.

99% of Christians manage to ignore the extreme pacifist admonitions of Christ and still call themselves Christians.

And 99.9% of gun owners never commit a crime

-Geaux

You've made my argument. Thank you.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Anyone following (what I style as) the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is prohibited from committing violence of any kind against his fellow Man.

That would be terrific. An actual act of faith. Any idea when such a thing might just happen, for once?

Hundreds of millions of Christians live their lives in varying degrees of proximity to such 'pure' Core Teachings.

The degrees vary alright, from 10% to nothin' at all. Hell, they don't even know what the crazy fucker taught usually. He's just a Ticket to Heaven.

 

[Geaux4it]

How about burning alive? Truly, that's a barbaric thing the Bible God would never go for.

"If a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you." -- Leviticus 20:14



"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." -- Leviticus 21:9


"Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt." -- Genesis 38:24


"He that is taken with the accursed thing shall be burnt with fire, he and all that he hath. ... And Joshua ... took Achan ... and his sons, and his daughters ... And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire." -- Joshua 7:15, 24-25

"And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not. And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD. -- Leviticus 10:1-2



"And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp." -- Numbers 11:1


"And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense." -- Numbers 16:35


"They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God ... For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains. ... They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust." -- Deuteronomy 32:21-24


"Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them." -- Psalm 21:9


"Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame." -- Isaiah 47:13-14


"If I be a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And there came down fire from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty." -- 2 Kings 1:10, 12


"Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; As the vine tree among the trees of the forest, which I have given to the fire for fuel, so will I give the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And I will set my face against them; they shall go out from one fire, and another fire shall devour them; and ye shall know that I am the LORD. -- Ezekiel 15:6-7


"Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left." -- Isaiah 24:6


"And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire." -- Isaiah 33:12


"I will cause an alarm of war to be heard in Rabbah of the Ammonites; and it shall be a desolate heap, and her daughters shall be burned with fire." -- Jeremiah 49:2

..."...And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ."...

Yes, Mister President, except...

1. the Crusades happened the better part of a thousand years ago, whereas Islam is doing this today, during our very lifetimes

2. the Inquisition happened half a thousand years ago, whereas Islam is doing this today, during our very lifetimes

3. when Christians did those things so many centuries ago, they did so in direct violation of the teachings of their Founder, whereas when the Muslims do this today, they do it in obedience to the teachings of their Founder.

Apples and oranges, Mister President.

Oh, and, by the way... are you not supposed to be one of us? So why are you giving aid and comfort to the enemy?

I could find you plenty of Bible Quotes that call for beheadings, guy. So saying that this is against the teachings of Jesus are kind of silly.

Judges 7:25
And they took two princes of the Midianites, Oreb and Zeeb ... and brought the heads of Oreb and Zeeb to Gideon....



1 Samuel 17:57
And as David returned from the slaughter of the Philistine, ... [he] brought ... the head of the Philistine in his hand.


2 Samuel 4:7-8
And they smote him, and slew him, and beheaded him, and took his head ... brought the head of Ishbosheth unto David....


2 Samuel 20:22
And they cut off the head of Sheba the son of Bichri, and cast it out to Joab.


2 Kings 10:7-8
[T]hey took the king's sons, and slew seventy persons, and put their heads in baskets, and sent him them to Jezreel. And there came a messenger, and told him, saying, They have brought the heads of the king's sons. And he said, Lay ye them in two heaps at the entering in of the gate until the morning.

Yes, yes, yes...

Apologists for Radical Islam, and Uber-Liberals - committed to religious egalitarianism despite the savage nature of the alien belief system - always drag-out the violence inherent in the Old Testament, to try and equate Islamic dogma and philosophy with Christian dogma and philosophy...

Here's the problem with that...

The New Testament overrides and supercedes the Old...

Any teachings of Jesus of Nazareth override and supercede conflicting teachings in the Old Testament...

If the Prophet DumAzzKiel from ancient times says that it's OK to spit your enemy's babies on barbeque skewers and eat them with fava beans and a nice chianti...

And if Jesus of Nazareth says that you should "Turn the other cheek" and "Love thy neighbor", then...

Your enemy's babies are safe, after all, because the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth override those of the Old Testament...

Now, mind you, over the centuries, a very great and repeated slaughter has been perpetrated by Christians, in various parts of the domains of Old Christendom...

But, here's the thing...

When Christians slaughtered in the name of God, they did so in obedience-to or in agreement-with Christian clerics and/or Christian royalty who were covering their asses with such concepts as "Just War" and "Defense of the Faith"...

And those concepts - and the actions and great slaughters committed under the aegis of those concepts - were in direct violation of the basic teachings of Jesus of Nazareth - namely: "Turn the other cheek" and "Love thy neighbor".

In effect, churchmen and temporal rulers had devised Juicy Rationalizations to circumvent the unmistakable prohibitions against violence and the unmistakable enjoinders to love, for which Jesus of Nazareth is famed and respected and even worshiped, and which he served-up without caveats or conditions or exceptions during his ministry.

Jesus of Nazareth did not say "Turn the other cheek, unless the other guy is making war on you" nor did he say "Love thy neighbor, unless he is making war on you" nor did he say "Suffer the little children to come unto me, unless they belong to a different tribe or race or religion" - rather, his injunctions are perceived as universal and unconditional.

The great violence committed by Christianity in centuries long-past was the result of mortal and fallible men, misleading others away from those Core Teachings of Jesus.

The Old Testament is there as historical backdrop and as continuity with the monotheistic heritage of Jesus and as metaphorical Morality Play and as a collection of lessons in what to do and what not to do, and as a catch-all bucket for anything not covered by the teachings of Jesus and the writings of the superceding New Testament.

If the subject matter is explicitly or (reasonably) implicitly covered in the New Testament, then the teachings of the New Testament supercede and control.

If the subject matter is not covered in the New Testament, then the teachings of the Old Testament control.

The Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth prohibit violence and warfare of any kind, under any circumstances.

Leaving the warfare and head-taking and baby-skewering of the Old Testament as historical narrative and backdrop, rather than as permission for others to do the same.

Islam, on the other hand, is absolutely saturated with Permissions to Wage War and to commit Violence Against Unbelievers - supposedly, the Word of God himself, as revealed to Muhammed.

Clearly, the Islamic vision of the godhead is a bloodier and more violent vision that that offered to Mankind by Jesus of Nazareth.

Equally clearly, the Founder of Islam was a being of far commoner clay and far more violent than the Founder of Christianity.

It is failure to make and understand and apply these differences, which allows faux equivalences between Islam and Christianity.

But... amongst those who perceive and understand these differences... the far more savage and brutal nature of the Core Teachings of Islam come into a clear focus.

Obumble - the Failed Messiah - is a high-profile purveyor of the falsehood inherent in such faux equivalencies.

It's irrelevant what's in the storybooks.

99% of Muslims manage to live peacefully.

99% of Christians manage to ignore the extreme pacifist admonitions of Christ and still call themselves Christians.

OUCH! You just got owned there NYC by Kondor3

-Geaux....

 

[Kondor3]

Yes, it's entirely possible that Obama does not believe in your Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Then again, this so-called Pixie in the Sky is not the issue.

Rather, the issue is the Failed Messiah attempting to lay-down a smoke screen for the enemy - Radical Militant Islam.

And in front of a room dominated primarily by Christians, of all places!

Idiot.

SO your alternative would be for him to go all Fox News and condemn Islam as a religion so we have 1.3 billion Muslims pissed at us instead of a few hundred thousand extremists...

Yeah, that makes sense. Make sure we promise some poor kids a scholarship to go fight that.

Remember the mother's maxim: "If you can't say something nice about somebody, it's best not to say anything at all." ?

 

[NYcarbineer]

...Anyone following (what I style as) the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is prohibited from committing violence of any kind against his fellow Man.

And what percent of Christians adhere to that teaching?

I have no idea.

It is terribly difficult to go through this life without committing violence of some kind or another against your fellow man.

That is the true challenge of Christianity.

It is, on the other hand, terribly easy to commit violence against your fellow Man, when you believe yourself justified, and when your God says it's OK.

That is the trap and the basis of the savagery and the violence inherent in Islam.

Christianity is more peaceful than it was in the past because it has been secularized. That is ongoing in Islam.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

...Anyone following (what I style as) the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is prohibited from committing violence of any kind against his fellow Man.

And what percent of Christians adhere to that teaching?

I have no idea.

It is terribly difficult to go through this life without committing violence of some kind or another against your fellow man.

That is the true challenge of Christianity.

It is, on the other hand, terribly easy to commit violence against your fellow Man, when you believe yourself justified, and when your God says it's OK.

That is the trap and the basis of the savagery and the violence inherent in Islam.

Christianity is more peaceful than it was in the past because it has been secularized. That is ongoing in Islam.

Yep. When they care for their Holy book as little as the Christians do, problem solved.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Enjoy: Crimes of Christianity The Crusades

"Such was the carnage in the Mosque of Omar, that the mutilated carcasses were hurried by the torrents of blood into the court; dissevered arms and hands floated into the current that carried them into contact with bodies to which they had not belonged. Ten thousand people were murdered in this sanctuary. It was not only the lacerated and headless trunks which shocked the sight, but the figures of the victors themselves reeking with the blood of their slaughtered enemies. No place of refuge remained to the vanquished, so indiscriminately did the insatiable fanaticism of the conquerors disregard alike supplication and resistance. Some were slain, others were thrown from the tops of the churches and of the citadel." [192:1]"

You'll especially like the beheading and setting afire parts.

And maybe this:


"Michaud remarks that the contemporary Christian historians describe these frightful scenes with perfect equanimity. Even amid recitals of the most disgusting details they "never allow a single expression of horror or pity to escape them." [193:8] Nor did the clergy feel any more compunction than the laymen. There is a letter written by Daimbert, archbishop of Pisa, to the Pope, in which he says: "If you desire to know what became of the enemies we found in Jerusalem, know that in the portico of Solomon and in the temple, our soldiers had the vile blood of the Saracens up to the knees of their horses." [193:9]"

It says headless trunks not beheading, and again you are confusing war with beheading.

So, the Christians, who are not allowed to go to war, can chop off heads in war but Muslims beheading people is barbaric? Is that your position?

Anyone following (what I style as) the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is prohibited from committing violence of any kind against his fellow Man.

And what percent of Christians adhere to that teaching?

Roughly zero, at least here that is. Here they are headed back to the theater to watch American Sniper, for the third time.

Count the number of conscientious objectors in WWII, versus the number of American Christians who fought in or otherwise supported the war

and you 'll have fair measure of how little Christians really follow Christ.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It says headless trunks not beheading, and again you are confusing war with beheading.

So, the Christians, who are not allowed to go to war, can chop off heads in war but Muslims beheading people is barbaric? Is that your position?

Anyone following (what I style as) the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is prohibited from committing violence of any kind against his fellow Man.

And what percent of Christians adhere to that teaching?

Roughly zero, at least here that is. Here they are headed back to the theater to watch American Sniper, for the third time.

Count the number of conscientious objectors in WWII, versus the number of American Christians who fought in or otherwise supported the war

and you 'll have fair measure of how little Christians really follow Christ.

Yeppers...

To most Christians, this is their Lord:

 

[Redfish]

It says headless trunks not beheading, and again you are confusing war with beheading.

So, the Christians, who are not allowed to go to war, can chop off heads in war but Muslims beheading people is barbaric? Is that your position?

Anyone following (what I style as) the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is prohibited from committing violence of any kind against his fellow Man.

And what percent of Christians adhere to that teaching?

Roughly zero, at least here that is. Here they are headed back to the theater to watch American Sniper, for the third time.

Count the number of conscientious objectors in WWII, versus the number of American Christians who fought in or otherwise supported the war

and you 'll have fair measure of how little Christians really follow Christ.

what a stupid statement

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, yes, yes...

Apologists for Radical Islam, and Uber-Liberals - committed to religious egalitarianism despite the savage nature of the alien belief system - always drag-out the violence inherent in the Old Testament, to try and equate Islamic dogma and philosophy with Christian dogma and philosophy...

Here's the problem with that...

The New Testament overrides and supercedes the Old...

Any teachings of Jesus of Nazareth override and supercede conflicting teachings in the Old Testament...

If the Prophet DumAzzkiel from ancient times says that it's OK to spit your enemy's babies on barbeque skewers and eat them with fava beans and a nice chianti...

And if Jesus of Nazareth says that you should "Turn the other cheek" and "Love thy neighbor", then...

Your enemy's babies are safe, after all, because the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth override those of the Old Testament...

I'm going to cut you off right here, because Jesus never said any such thing.

Jesus never said to end slavery or stop burning witches or just live and let live with people who don't believe what you believe. That NEVER APPEARS in the New Testament.

in fact, Jesus SPECIFICALLY said - "“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)

No, we did not suddenly become more 'humane' than those bad old Muzzies because of what Jesus said. In fact, for most of the last 2000 years, Christians were MORE savage that the Muslim world, as we expanded across the whole world and genocided the shit out of native and aborigine cultures around the world.

What happened was that WE decided that there really weren't any witches (not withstanding the people at Sarah Palin's Church, who totally believe in that shit) and we decided that slavery was wrong (after we invented machines to do the really hard work.)

It didn't have fuck to do with Jesus.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So, the Christians, who are not allowed to go to war, can chop off heads in war but Muslims beheading people is barbaric? Is that your position?

Anyone following (what I style as) the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is prohibited from committing violence of any kind against his fellow Man.

And what percent of Christians adhere to that teaching?

Roughly zero, at least here that is. Here they are headed back to the theater to watch American Sniper, for the third time.

Count the number of conscientious objectors in WWII, versus the number of American Christians who fought in or otherwise supported the war

and you 'll have fair measure of how little Christians really follow Christ.

what a stupid statement

Not at all, he's entirely correct. Maybe this will help:

The Beatitudes
2 And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying:

3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

6 “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.

7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

8 “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

10 “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 “Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

 

[JoeB131]

You don't reason with this kind of insane scum, you destroy it.

Guy, a member of ISIS can totally identify with that sort of mentality.

 

[Kondor3]

Yes, it's entirely possible that Obama does not believe in your Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Then again, this so-called Pixie in the Sky is not the issue.

Rather, the issue is the Failed Messiah attempting to lay-down a smoke screen for the enemy - Radical Militant Islam.

And in front of a room dominated primarily by Christians, of all places!

Idiot.

SO your alternative would be for him to go all Fox News and condemn Islam as a religion so we have 1.3 billion Muslims pissed at us instead of a few hundred thousand extremists...

Yeah, that makes sense. Make sure we promise some poor kids a scholarship to go fight that.

OK, I see the challenge in this...

So, just for shits and giggles...

I'm Obumble's speechwriter...

My challenge is to (a) try to soften the hostility directed at Islam while (b) not giving aid-and-comfort to the enemy and (c) not take sides against my own kind...

Revised text:

"Ladies and gentlemen, we all know that many of the world's religions have had their violent moments in history. Even Christianity has caused its share of war and violence and oppression in times and centuries past. But we're living in a much more enlightened and tolerant modern age now in The West and much of the rest of the world, and we're dealing with a radicalized, militant branch of Islam, which still seems to be playing catch-up in to The West in some ways, after many years of being under colonial rule. So, let's try to be on our guard against the dangers imposed by this radicalized offshoot of Islam, while understanding that this isn't the Islamic mainstream, and that they, too, given a little time and understanding, may complete the task of adapting their faith and its philosophies to meet the challenges of a more open and tolerant and modern world."

Conveys the idea that Christendom does not have clean (historical) hands, either, but that Islam has a lot of catching-up to do, without pissing off the rest of us, or giving aid-and-comfort to the enemy.

You asked.

 

[Edgetho]

Two questions:

1) I wonder how many of the dimocrap scumbags in here are under investigation by the FBI and Homeland Security for their sympathies toward ISIS

2) I wonder how many should be

scumbags

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Two questions:

1) I wonder how many of the dimocrap scumbags in here are under investigation by the FBI and Homeland Security for their sympathies toward ISIS

2) I wonder how many should be

scumbags

Actually it's you they have on their watch-list, trying to figure out whether it's an abortion clinic or a mosque you're going to blow up first? Just shooting everyone at a Taco Bell comes in second.

 

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