Obama: People who earn more are merely "Society's lottery winners"

[The Rabbi]

There is a simple answer to these Moon Bats that bitch about CEOs making too money from their perspective.

All they have to do is stop buying any goods are services from a company that gives the CEO more money than the Moon Bat thinks the CEO should get.

That way they are not contributing to the revenue that pays the CEOs salary. Problem solved

Yeah but thats now how they roll. They want to use government to force people to do what they want. Dont approve of gay marriage? Fuck you. We'll make you bake that cake. Like guns? fuck you, we'll take them from you. Dont want your kids learning that Reagan was an evil war monger? Fuck you, they'll learn what we tell them.
Democrats: the party of Fuck you.

 

[rightwinger]

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Yes, he was referring to the very wealthy speaking of CEO's making 1000 to 2000 times commonly accepted salaries and hedge fund managers making 400 million plus a year.

Who cares what other people make?

You are not greedy and envious of other people are you?

If you want to make a CEO salary then be a CEO.

In the meantime stop your bitching. It ain't cool.

We do care about the income that is not taxed

 

[Howey]

President Obama referred yesterday to the wealthy as "society's lottery winners", as though the only reason they were wealthy is because they got lucky one time. No mention of years of training, hard work, risks, 20-hour workdays, failure, recovery, and eventual success.

It's just more of the same attempt to pretend there's nothing wrong with taking they money and resources from those who earned them.

Private people who do this are called "thieves", and are prosecuted and jailed as they deserve.

Public people who do the same are called "liberals", and are immune from the prosecution and jail terms they deserve.

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Keying on poverty Obama suggests high earners hit lottery

Keying on poverty, Obama suggests high earners hit 'lottery'

By Angela Greiling Keane BLOOMBERG NEWS
Updated today at 4:03 a.m.

WASHINGTON -- Unless Democrats and Republicans can agree to raise taxes on the earnings of hedge-fund and private-equity managers, there is little chance the nation can make a meaningful dent in poverty, President Barack Obama said Tuesday.

Obama, whose long-standing proposal to raise taxes on what is known as carried interest has gained little traction in Congress, said fairness demands that the nation's wealthiest pitch in as more and more Americans are falling behind.

"If I were able to close that loophole, I'd be able to invest in early-childhood education," Obama said Tuesday. "If we can't ask from society's lottery winners to make that modest investment, then really this conversation is for show."

The president has often said the wealthiest Americans must make sacrifices to better life for poorer people. In addition to urging higher taxes for investment managers, he questioned whether the pay of some corporate chief executives is justified.

If you look at Obama's speech, he's clearly referring to wealthiest people in the country, such as hedge fund mangers making over 400 million a year, the Bill Gates, and Warren Buffets. All these people point to the amazing luck they had at some point in their career. However, the greatest stroke of luck was being born into a wealthy or an upper middle class family. The 10 wealthiest people in the country, with a combined net worth of a half trillion dollars all had sizable inheritances, no rags to richest story here.

I think Obama was also referring to people like Christy Walton, heir to the Walton billions who never held a job in her life life, Laurene Powell Jobs who lives off her 21 billion dollar Apple and Disney inheritance, or Blair Parry-Okeden who lives off her 8.4 billion inheritance in Cox Enterprises.

He isnt clearly referring to any of those, flapjaw. He is referring to people who built fortunes on their own. Of course in his telling there is no such thing. In the Left's view no one actually got rich on his own. Everyone merely was in the right place at the right time. Ergo their money isnt really theirs but belongs to "society", i.e. the federal government. Thus 100% taxation rates are always on the table.

Yes, he was referring to the very wealthy speaking of CEO's making 1000 to 2000 times commonly accepted salaries and hedge fund managers making 400 million plus a year.

Proof?
No, he was speaking about anyone who owned, started, and built a business and created wealth that way.

You can read his mind?

 

[Flash]

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We do care about the income that is not taxed

I don't think you Moon Bats do because 47% of the people in the US don't pay into the trillion dollars a year that is collected in income tax and I don't see you bitching about that. All you little fuckers do is bitch that the 53% that do pay the great amount of taxes don't pay even more.

For you it is nothing more than socialists greed and envy. Somebody makes more than you do and you don't like it.

Any CEO in the US that makes more money than you do pays more taxes than you so stop being a dickhead and stop your complaining. It makes you look a greedy little fool.

If you are going to bitch about wealth and unfairness then how about bitching about how the Clintons used their positions in government to scam countries and corporations (like Boeing) into donation to their scam charity so they could skim the gravy off the top and become filthy rich.

How about bitching about how the filthy UAW donated millions to that shithead Obama and when you Moon Bats elected him he used taxpayer's money (that you stated you care about) to pay off the UAW's bloated pensions?

You are simply a pathetic little Moon Bat that is driven by greed so you really don't care about "fairness". You are one of the stupid Americans Jonathan Gruber says the Democrat Party depends upon to further their agenda of hate and thievery.

 

[rightwinger]

The 47% pay a higher effective tax rate than the one percent

The group you complain about controls only 2 TENTHS of a percent of our nations wealth yet you complain that they are not taxed enough

Meanwhile, the one percent pay the lowest tax rate in 80 years

 

[The Rabbi]

The 47% pay a higher effective tax rate than the one percent

The group you complain about controls only 2 TENTHS of a percent of our nations wealth yet you complain that they are not taxed enough

Meanwhile, the one percent pay the lowest tax rate in 80 years

And the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no tax whatsover. Who is the real moocher in this story, Nuitjobber?

 

[Flash]

The 47% pay a higher effective tax rate than the one percent

The group you complain about controls only 2 TENTHS of a percent of our nations wealth yet you complain that they are not taxed enough

Meanwhile, the one percent pay the lowest tax rate in 80 years

The poor pay very little taxes. About 47% pay nothing into the trillion's collected each year in income taxes.

The "rich" pays the lion's share of all taxes and that is not enough for you greedy little bastards so you want more.

It is nothing more than greed and it is despicable.

You are not entitled to the money made by other people just because you are alive.

If you want more money then get off your fat ass and earn it and don't be envious of what other people make. Don't be a dickhead and elect assholes like Obama to use the government to steal the money on your behalf. That just makes you a pathetic little thief.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The 47% pay a higher effective tax rate than the one percent

The group you complain about controls only 2 TENTHS of a percent of our nations wealth yet you complain that they are not taxed enough

Meanwhile, the one percent pay the lowest tax rate in 80 years

And the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no tax whatsover. Who is the real moocher in this story, Nuitjobber?

You're wasting your time trying to educate that nut job.

 

[Flash]

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And the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no tax whatsover. Who is the real moocher in this story, Nuitjobber?

That is not good enough for the greedy little bastards.

That want more and more and more and more. It is socialist greed and thievery.

They can't stand the idea that somebody makes more money than themselves so they hire scumbags like Obama to steal the money for them.

 

[Flash]

You're wasting your time trying to educate that nut job.

All that Moon Bat does is spout the same old socialist bullshit over and over again. The same bullshit that has already destroys several economies in the world and is in the process of destroying more.

 

[rightwinger]

The 47% pay a higher effective tax rate than the one percent

The group you complain about controls only 2 TENTHS of a percent of our nations wealth yet you complain that they are not taxed enough

Meanwhile, the one percent pay the lowest tax rate in 80 years

And the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no tax whatsover. Who is the real moocher in this story, Nuitjobber?

Of course they do.....Social Security, State, Local and sales tax
In all, they pay a higher percentage of their income than the one percent

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The 47% pay a higher effective tax rate than the one percent

The group you complain about controls only 2 TENTHS of a percent of our nations wealth yet you complain that they are not taxed enough

Meanwhile, the one percent pay the lowest tax rate in 80 years

And the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no tax whatsover. Who is the real moocher in this story, Nuitjobber?

Of course they do.....Social Security, State, Local and sales tax
In all, they pay a higher percentage of their income than the one percent

You're so full of shit

 

[Jroc]

The 47% pay a higher effective tax rate than the one percent

The group you complain about controls only 2 TENTHS of a percent of our nations wealth yet you complain that they are not taxed enough

Meanwhile, the one percent pay the lowest tax rate in 80 years

And the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no tax whatsover. Who is the real moocher in this story, Nuitjobber?

Of course they do.....Social Security, State, Local and sales tax
In all, they pay a higher percentage of their income than the one percent

Sales tax isn't income tax you moron..liberals like them dumb

 

[Flash]

Of course they do.....Social Security, State, Local and sales tax
In all, they pay a higher percentage of their income than the one percent

Everybody pays the same rate for sales tax, even if you are Bill Gates. Most states have exemptions for basic need items in order to exempt the poor from paying some of the stupid tax. If a poor person is paying a lot in sales tax it is because they are buying more than basic need items. I suspect Bill Gates pays more more money in sales tax each year than you will see in ten of your lifetimes.

Social Security is a poorly run and potentially bankrupting stupid government program to provide retirement for everybody.

Everybody pays in to the fund based on income and everybody is entitled to the pension. Congress did put a cap on it because there is no need for the Bill Gates of the world to get a multi million dollar a year pension. He is, however, entitled to a pension for the amount he did pay in, the same as the 7-11 Clerk.

Stop being a greedy little socialist that is envious that somebody else makes more money. It just makes you look like an asshole.

 

[The Rabbi]

The 47% pay a higher effective tax rate than the one percent

The group you complain about controls only 2 TENTHS of a percent of our nations wealth yet you complain that they are not taxed enough

Meanwhile, the one percent pay the lowest tax rate in 80 years

And the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no tax whatsover. Who is the real moocher in this story, Nuitjobber?

Of course they do.....Social Security, State, Local and sales tax
In all, they pay a higher percentage of their income than the one percent

Looks like everyone beat me to smacking you down.
You might want to consider getting something resembling an education before you post again. It would avoid making you look stupid and getting abused by every conservative on this board.

 

[The Rabbi]

The 47% pay a higher effective tax rate than the one percent

The group you complain about controls only 2 TENTHS of a percent of our nations wealth yet you complain that they are not taxed enough

Meanwhile, the one percent pay the lowest tax rate in 80 years

And the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no tax whatsover. Who is the real moocher in this story, Nuitjobber?

Of course they do.....Social Security, State, Local and sales tax
In all, they pay a higher percentage of their income than the one percent

Looks like everyone beat me to smacking you down.
You might want to consider getting something resembling an education before you post again. It would avoid making you look stupid and getting abused by every conservative on this board.

 

[RKMBrown]

Bush was an authoritarian socialist disaster. Moderate republican = war mongering, socialist.

Bush did some things he shouldn't have like invading Iraq and increasing the size of government but he was never a disaster . The economy was doing fine until the 2006 elected Democrat control Congress took over and that is when the economy went to hell thanks to Barney Queerboy and his Democrat buddies and that Jimmy Carter era CRA coming home to roost.

Obama has been at war every day of his seven years and no end in sight. If anybody is to be considered a warmonger it is him. He even wants to keep 10K troops in Afghanistan for perpetuity and he is attacking targets in the Middle East even today. He fought the Iraq War for three years and called it a success.

Obama has been a social and economic disaster with an increase poverty rate, increase welfare, declining family income and now $18 trillion in debt. Of course there is that disaster called obamacare. Just wait until the American people get a taste of the increased cost next year when government subsidies to the insurance companies come to an end.

Bush ended federal taxation for 50% of the country, thus sending us merrily on the way to becoming a full fledged socialist country. Remember this:
"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money." Alexis de Tocqueville
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” - Benjamin Franklin
“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship” - Alexander Tytler 1787

Then Bush created the un-patriotic bill and the socialist nazi like DHS. Remember this:
"Anyone who would trade their freedom for safety deserves neither freedom or safety." - Benjamin Franklin

Bush created no child left behind. Remember this:
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson

Bush expanded medicare... which then led to Obama Care Remember this:
“Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.” -Vladimir Lenin

 

[rightwinger]

Of course they do.....Social Security, State, Local and sales tax
In all, they pay a higher percentage of their income than the one percent

Everybody pays the same rate for sales tax, even if you are Bill Gates. Most states have exemptions for basic need items in order to exempt the poor from paying some of the stupid tax. If a poor person is paying a lot in sales tax it is because they are buying more than basic need items. I suspect Bill Gates pays more more money in sales tax each year than you will see in ten of your lifetimes.

Social Security is a poorly run and potentially bankrupting stupid government program to provide retirement for everybody.

Everybody pays in to the fund based on income and everybody is entitled to the pension. Congress did put a cap on it because there is no need for the Bill Gates of the world to get a multi million dollar a year pension. He is, however, entitled to a pension for the amount he did pay in, the same as the 7-11 Clerk.

Stop being a greedy little socialist that is envious that somebody else makes more money. It just makes you look like an asshole.

Sales tax has a greater impact on poor people than it does on Bill Gates, a greater portion of their income goes to pay necessities
Same as Social Security. Poor people pay 7% of their income, Bill Gates stops paying after $125,000

 

[Flash]

Bush was an authoritarian socialist disaster. Moderate republican = war mongering, socialist.

Bush did some things he shouldn't have like invading Iraq and increasing the size of government but he was never a disaster . The economy was doing fine until the 2006 elected Democrat control Congress took over and that is when the economy went to hell thanks to Barney Queerboy and his Democrat buddies and that Jimmy Carter era CRA coming home to roost.

Obama has been at war every day of his seven years and no end in sight. If anybody is to be considered a warmonger it is him. He even wants to keep 10K troops in Afghanistan for perpetuity and he is attacking targets in the Middle East even today. He fought the Iraq War for three years and called it a success.

Obama has been a social and economic disaster with an increase poverty rate, increase welfare, declining family income and now $18 trillion in debt. Of course there is that disaster called obamacare. Just wait until the American people get a taste of the increased cost next year when government subsidies to the insurance companies come to an end.

Bush ended federal taxation for 50% of the country, thus sending us merrily on the way to becoming a full fledged socialist country. Remember this:
"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money." Alexis de Tocqueville
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” - Benjamin Franklin
“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship” - Alexander Tytler 1787

Then Bush created the un-patriotic bill and the socialist nazi like DHS. Remember this:
"Anyone who would trade their freedom for safety deserves neither freedom or safety." - Benjamin Franklin

Bush created no child left behind. Remember this:
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson

Bush expanded medicare... which then led to Obama Care Remember this:
“Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.” -Vladimir Lenin

I stopped voting for Republicans when Bush and the Republican Congress increased the cost of government, increased entitlements, grew the debt, failed to seal the border, started a stupid interventionist war and backed DC in the Heller case.

It was good thing that Bush gave us the rinky dink tax cut. That probably saved the economy from tanking after 911, however it fell far short of what we needed.

I also don't like the idea that 47% of the people don't have to pay into that trillion a year in income taxes. They have absolutely no stake in good government because bad government doesn't cost them anything. In fact they get welfare out of the bad government so they are happy.

The best thing to do is have the lowest possible size of government with the lowest tax burden. Then we need to do away with a progressive tax system so that the bottom of the barrel feels the sting of the cost of government so they will vote to keep it small.

 

[Flash]

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