Obama promised to heal the nation, bridge the racial divide and transcend petty polit

[Pheonixops]

I said adult life. I am a young grandfather. Born in 68

Ok, so we are around the same age. You don't remember the beginning of the "angry white male" with limbaugh and the anti-Affirmative Action crowd in the 80's and early 1990's??? You don't remember the rise of the Neo-Nazi Skinhead movement in the 1980's and 1990's and the rise of the KKK, the Aryan Nations (Weaver & Co.), the ROHAWA movement, their predictions of a "race war" that was supposed to start in 1995? Really?

so are you mad that the fairness doctrine ended in 1987? what do you think those views happen overnight?

LOL, I'm glad that you posed that as a question. I'm all for Freedom of Speech and the exchange of ideas and opinions. I'd rather people jaw, jaw, jaw instead of going to war, war, war. I'm not in favor of any so-called "Fairness Doctrine".

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Ok, so we are around the same age. You don't remember the beginning of the "angry white male" with limbaugh and the anti-Affirmative Action crowd in the 80's and early 1990's??? You don't remember the rise of the Neo-Nazi Skinhead movement in the 1980's and 1990's and the rise of the KKK, the Aryan Nations (Weaver & Co.), the ROHAWA movement, their predictions of a "race war" that was supposed to start in 1995? Really?

I remember the FRINGE elements yes. But now that hatred and divisive attitude permeates all maner of our society. And in just a few short years.

If that's so, then how do you rectify the fact that I presented before regarding the large majority of racial groups in this country, except for White people, voted for President Obama in this last election? where's the hatred there? Even 43% of the White people voted for President Obama, that sure sounds like a lot of groups coming together to me. You can add the so-called homosexual voters as another group who voted for President Obama in large numbers. If that's not coalescing a large group of various people and having them come together for a common cause, then I don't know what to tell you.

Your post is a perfect example of the divisive attitude im talking about. I see voting Americans expressing hope where as you see groups and societal segments picking a side.

 

[Pheonixops]

I remember the FRINGE elements yes. But now that hatred and divisive attitude permeates all maner of our society. And in just a few short years.

If that's so, then how do you rectify the fact that I presented before regarding the large majority of racial groups in this country, except for White people, voted for President Obama in this last election? where's the hatred there? Even 43% of the White people voted for President Obama, that sure sounds like a lot of groups coming together to me. You can add the so-called homosexual voters as another group who voted for President Obama in large numbers. If that's not coalescing a large group of various people and having them come together for a common cause, then I don't know what to tell you.

Your post is a perfect example of the divisive attitude im talking about. I see voting Americans expressing hope where as you see groups and societal segments picking a side.

The above shows that you can't argue the facts that I presented. Your OP and thread is about a so-called "racial divide" and I demonstrated that your assertion was and is incorrect. I demonstrated that by showing you how many different racial and social groups came together to vote for and support President Obama and then you try to twist it with some intellectually dishonest crap because you can't argue the facts.
There's NOTHING divisive about my attitude, especially when I am happy that people came together and are coming together. I demonstrated how he did bridge the racial divide. Oh well........................

 

[Wyatt earp]

I remember the FRINGE elements yes. But now that hatred and divisive attitude permeates all maner of our society. And in just a few short years.

If that's so, then how do you rectify the fact that I presented before regarding the large majority of racial groups in this country, except for White people, voted for President Obama in this last election? where's the hatred there? Even 43% of the White people voted for President Obama, that sure sounds like a lot of groups coming together to me. You can add the so-called homosexual voters as another group who voted for President Obama in large numbers. If that's not coalescing a large group of various people and having them come together for a common cause, then I don't know what to tell you.

Your post is a perfect example of the divisive attitude im talking about. I see voting Americans expressing hope where as you see groups and societal segments picking a side.

A post like this always reminds me what ronny once said " the right looks at every day like the 4th of July, while the left looks at every day like April 15th" or something like that.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

If that's so, then how do you rectify the fact that I presented before regarding the large majority of racial groups in this country, except for White people, voted for President Obama in this last election? where's the hatred there? Even 43% of the White people voted for President Obama, that sure sounds like a lot of groups coming together to me. You can add the so-called homosexual voters as another group who voted for President Obama in large numbers. If that's not coalescing a large group of various people and having them come together for a common cause, then I don't know what to tell you.

Your post is a perfect example of the divisive attitude im talking about. I see voting Americans expressing hope where as you see groups and societal segments picking a side.

The above shows that you can't argue the facts that I presented. Your OP and thread is about a so-called "racial divide" and I demonstrated that your assertion was and is incorrect. I demonstrated that by showing you how many different racial and social groups came together to vote for and support President Obama and then you try to twist it with some intellectually dishonest crap because you can't argue the facts.
There's NOTHING divisive about my attitude, especially when I am happy that people came together and are coming together. I demonstrated how he did bridge the racial divide. Oh well........................

You haven't demonstrated anything except your opinion. Sorry but your opinion is no more factual than mine. And THAT is a fact.

 

[OKTexas]

He never intended to heal anything, he wanted to nurture the disease and drive a wedge between the races, genders, and religions. In those areas, he has been a huge success.

Bingo!


Obarry is no fool. Quite honestly, he is extremely intelligent. How else could this man come from nowhere, never accomplish anything, and the next thing you know, he is president of the United States?

I truly believe that this has been his plan from day one - to divide; and he has done yeoman's work of it. This country is not necessarily "more divided" than it has ever been but it is definitely more polarized than it has ever been.

He has taken every pussy group out there and has rallied them against conservatives to the point that it (literally) feels like "us against them". We are on the verge of a "societal" war rather than a "civil" war.

"To see the secular socialist building his machine, one need only note the appeal to the self-interest of each of their various interest groups rather than appealing to any unifying vision for the future of the nation. The reason for ‘identity politics’ is that the intellectual mindset of the Leftists is hardly the same as that of the vast majority of Americans."
Gingrich, "To Save America," chapter two.

Yep, the Alinski method at its best.

 

[Wyatt earp]

If that's so, then how do you rectify the fact that I presented before regarding the large majority of racial groups in this country, except for White people, voted for President Obama in this last election? where's the hatred there? Even 43% of the White people voted for President Obama, that sure sounds like a lot of groups coming together to me. You can add the so-called homosexual voters as another group who voted for President Obama in large numbers. If that's not coalescing a large group of various people and having them come together for a common cause, then I don't know what to tell you.

Your post is a perfect example of the divisive attitude im talking about. I see voting Americans expressing hope where as you see groups and societal segments picking a side.

The above shows that you can't argue the facts that I presented. Your OP and thread is about a so-called "racial divide" and I demonstrated that your assertion was and is incorrect. I demonstrated that by showing you how many different racial and social groups came together to vote for and support President Obama and then you try to twist it with some intellectually dishonest crap because you can't argue the facts.
There's NOTHING divisive about my attitude, especially when I am happy that people came together and are coming together. I demonstrated how he did bridge the racial divide. Oh well........................

dude sorry to break your bubble, but politicaly obama divided the hell out of us. never seen it like it before. socialy it just us evolving and not caring who people are. and oh yea I was born in 65.

 

[MikeK]

And look at us now. It's like we teleported back to the 70's.

Obama put forth many promises, both explicit and implicit, but he's shown himself to be an artful bullshit artist. However, as with all Presidents, the yardstick he is measured by is his predecessor. And when I view Obama in comparison with George W. Bush it is clear to me Obama stands head and shoulders above that ignorant, elitist, criminal sonofabitch.

In the same way as Bill Clinton was the diametric opposite of Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush was the opposite of Clinton, and the persona which Candidate Obama artfully and deceitfully presented to the voters was the visual as well as political counterpole of Bush.

In my opinion, although Obama has been a major disappointment to me, I do not regret voting for him in preference to any representative of the emerging corporatocracy, which would be any Republican. And while my first choice was Dennis Kucinich, I continue to believe Obama to be a vast improvement over George W. Bush -- which isn't saying much because Bush probably was the worst president in American history.

 

[Pheonixops]

Your post is a perfect example of the divisive attitude im talking about. I see voting Americans expressing hope where as you see groups and societal segments picking a side.

The above shows that you can't argue the facts that I presented. Your OP and thread is about a so-called "racial divide" and I demonstrated that your assertion was and is incorrect. I demonstrated that by showing you how many different racial and social groups came together to vote for and support President Obama and then you try to twist it with some intellectually dishonest crap because you can't argue the facts.
There's NOTHING divisive about my attitude, especially when I am happy that people came together and are coming together. I demonstrated how he did bridge the racial divide. Oh well........................

You haven't demonstrated anything except your opinion. Sorry but your opinion is no more factual than mine. And THAT is a fact.

What ever makes you feel better.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The above shows that you can't argue the facts that I presented. Your OP and thread is about a so-called "racial divide" and I demonstrated that your assertion was and is incorrect. I demonstrated that by showing you how many different racial and social groups came together to vote for and support President Obama and then you try to twist it with some intellectually dishonest crap because you can't argue the facts.
There's NOTHING divisive about my attitude, especially when I am happy that people came together and are coming together. I demonstrated how he did bridge the racial divide. Oh well........................

You haven't demonstrated anything except your opinion. Sorry but your opinion is no more factual than mine. And THAT is a fact.

What ever makes you feel better.

just proves you lost the argument by posting that, I am affraid

 

[Pheonixops]

Your post is a perfect example of the divisive attitude im talking about. I see voting Americans expressing hope where as you see groups and societal segments picking a side.

The above shows that you can't argue the facts that I presented. Your OP and thread is about a so-called "racial divide" and I demonstrated that your assertion was and is incorrect. I demonstrated that by showing you how many different racial and social groups came together to vote for and support President Obama and then you try to twist it with some intellectually dishonest crap because you can't argue the facts.
There's NOTHING divisive about my attitude, especially when I am happy that people came together and are coming together. I demonstrated how he did bridge the racial divide. Oh well........................

dude sorry to break your bubble, but politicaly obama divided the hell out of us. never seen it like it before. socialy it just us evolving and not caring who people are. and oh yea I was born in 65.

How are we any more politically divided today than we were before? Have you ever watched news clips from the Civil Rights struggles in the 1960's? Those people were pretty politically divided. How do you rectify the fact that "many different racial and social groups came together to vote for and support President Obama"? I was born in 66.........
You are not busting any 'bubble", I welcome the discussion and debate.

Did you miss the 1990's with Bill Clinton and the attacks that were perpetrated against him and his wife by the right wingers? There was a lot of political animosity there as well.

 

[Pheonixops]

You haven't demonstrated anything except your opinion. Sorry but your opinion is no more factual than mine. And THAT is a fact.

What ever makes you feel better.

just proves you lost the argument by posting that, I am affraid

You are wrong, you most be talking about the other poster.

 

[nitroz]

Then who will pick those tomatos for me since we will have to treat those wetbacks like people?

 

[JakeStarkey]

And look at us now. It's like we teleported back to the 70's.

And the reactionary far right haters refused period to interact positively with him.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The above shows that you can't argue the facts that I presented. Your OP and thread is about a so-called "racial divide" and I demonstrated that your assertion was and is incorrect. I demonstrated that by showing you how many different racial and social groups came together to vote for and support President Obama and then you try to twist it with some intellectually dishonest crap because you can't argue the facts.
There's NOTHING divisive about my attitude, especially when I am happy that people came together and are coming together. I demonstrated how he did bridge the racial divide. Oh well........................

dude sorry to break your bubble, but politicaly obama divided the hell out of us. never seen it like it before. socialy it just us evolving and not caring who people are. and oh yea I was born in 65.

How are we any more politically divided today than we were before? Have you ever watched news clips from the Civil Rights struggles in the 1960's? Those people were pretty politically divided. How do you rectify the fact that "many different racial and social groups came together to vote for and support President Obama"? I was born in 66.........
You are not busting any 'bubble", I welcome the discussion and debate.

Did you miss the 1990's with Bill Clinton and the attacks that were perpetrated against him and his wife by the right wingers? There was a lot of political animosity there as well.

I didnt miss anything, we were doing fine as a nation healing so well, you do remember all the american flags flown after 9/11 ? dont you? Reagen, GHB, Clinton and Bush jr. was doing an ok job of building us together and not apart like Obama is doing politcaly.

 

[Mustang]

Obama has done a tremendous job pitting citizen against citizen.
Creating a us against them attitude from the first day he hit the campaign trail.
I get no sense at all that he is trying to bring this country closer together.

All I see from him are his constant attacks against business,people that try
to run a business,his anger towards anyone who tries to make a go of it
creating or running a business.If you are wealthy you got there by doing something dishonest.

His whole "You didn't build that" rant showed me all I needed to know about this guy.

Yer daft!

The pitting of citizen against citizen has been taking place several hours a day during the week when the opposition party and talk radio demonizes everything Obama says or does.

If the rush to reinterpret everything that Obama does in the worst possible (and a conspiratorial) light could be harnessed as a energy source, then we would no longer be dependent on fossil fuels.

But alas, at this point, it's merely a very good business model for the radio hosts and erstwhile 'authors' who know their audience's voracious hunger to embrace any and all conspiracy theories that place Obama at the center of a cabal dedicated to the destruction of all they hold dear.

 

[Pheonixops]

dude sorry to break your bubble, but politicaly obama divided the hell out of us. never seen it like it before. socialy it just us evolving and not caring who people are. and oh yea I was born in 65.

How are we any more politically divided today than we were before? Have you ever watched news clips from the Civil Rights struggles in the 1960's? Those people were pretty politically divided. How do you rectify the fact that "many different racial and social groups came together to vote for and support President Obama"? I was born in 66.........
You are not busting any 'bubble", I welcome the discussion and debate.

Did you miss the 1990's with Bill Clinton and the attacks that were perpetrated against him and his wife by the right wingers? There was a lot of political animosity there as well.

I didnt miss anything, we were doing fine as a nation healing so well, you do remember all the american flags flown after 9/11 ? dont you? Reagen, GHB, Clinton and Bush jr. was doing an ok job of building us together and not apart like Obama is doing politcaly.

You can't equate American flags flown after 9/11 with Our Nation "healing" politically! That's silly, because soon after that, your right wing cohorts started blaming Clinton and the "libruls!" for 9/11 and the inverse was true as well.
How did those aforementioned Presidents "build us together"? How is President Obama allegedly making us "apart"?

 

[Wry Catcher]

And look at us now. It's like we teleported back to the 70's.

Yep. And if the Republicans (can we still call them that, or, are only those known as RINO the only real Republicans?) have their way we will go all the way back to 1870; the time before we had child labor laws, women had the right to vote and Unions were a criminal organization.

Your intent to blame The President for what transpired since 2007 is silly.

 

[Wyatt earp]

How are we any more politically divided today than we were before? Have you ever watched news clips from the Civil Rights struggles in the 1960's? Those people were pretty politically divided. How do you rectify the fact that "many different racial and social groups came together to vote for and support President Obama"? I was born in 66.........
You are not busting any 'bubble", I welcome the discussion and debate.

Did you miss the 1990's with Bill Clinton and the attacks that were perpetrated against him and his wife by the right wingers? There was a lot of political animosity there as well.

I didnt miss anything, we were doing fine as a nation healing so well, you do remember all the american flags flown after 9/11 ? dont you? Reagen, GHB, Clinton and Bush jr. was doing an ok job of building us together and not apart like Obama is doing politcaly.

You can't equate American flags flown after 9/11 with Our Nation "healing" politically! That's silly, because soon after that, your right wing cohorts started blaming Clinton and the "libruls!" for 9/11 and the inverse was true as well.
How did those aforementioned Presidents "build us together"? How is President Obama allegedly making us "apart"?

well I do live in the real world and watch the news. and do remember when Clinton was getting impeached , he was on the phone with newt talking about how to make the U.S.A. strong. where as when the fiscal cliff was happening by all reports, Obama was on vacation in Hawaii........

 

[Wyatt earp]

And look at us now. It's like we teleported back to the 70's.

Yep. And if the Republicans (can we still call them that, or, are only those known as RINO the only real Republicans?) have their way we will go all the way back to 1870; the time before we had child labor laws, women had the right to vote and Unions were a criminal organization.

Your intent to blame The President for what transpired since 2007 is silly.

and by this post, see your getting upset. and ya do know the year is 2013 not 1913 right?