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How many tyrannical governments have y'all been exposed to? Have you ever been in a country ruled by a real, honest to gosh tyrant, with secret police and everything, where there is no rule of law outside the will of the tyrant?
If you haven't, I'd suggest you pick one and go spend a week or so there. Then, come back here and compare America's "tyranny" with the real thing.
Obama gave this speech knowing his IRS was targeting his opposition...
Obama to Ohio State Grads: Reject Voices Warning of Government Tyranny - YouTube
Yes, I have. How about you oldguy? This BS by the IRS is merely the beginning. Holder is up to his neck in illegal activity and it is now a very, very small step to outright dictatorship. If the admin washes this shit under the rug and ignores it then there is no longer a legit legal system in this country and that is another civil liberty gone.
What we are heading toward now is a soft tyranny. If it gets just a little bit worse you will se a Mugabe like government very, very soon. You're a fool if you try and defend this criminal behavior.
Yes, I have. More than one (I got beat up by the "dignity battalions" once) and I can safely tell you that whatever you think you see here isn't nearly the same. And, if you'd been exposed to real tyranny, you'd know that.
Hell, if this President were a real tyrant, you pussies wouldn't even dare post in a thread like this...IF you had the internet at all.
And that's the point oldguy. The Germans too had a decision to make. They had a card with Ja oder Nein on it. There are many graves in the Lich Catholic cathedral filled with Germans who VOTED Nein!
You need to wake the hell up.....and Panama was a soft tyranny, too much corruption with all of the drug money. Yugoslavia under Tito was an entirely different story.
Yes, I have. More than one (I got beat up by the "dignity battalions" once) and I can safely tell you that whatever you think you see here isn't nearly the same. And, if you'd been exposed to real tyranny, you'd know that.
Hell, if this President were a real tyrant, you pussies wouldn't even dare post in a thread like this...IF you had the internet at all.
And that's the point oldguy. The Germans too had a decision to make. They had a card with Ja oder Nein on it. There are many graves in the Lich Catholic cathedral filled with Germans who VOTED Nein!
You need to wake the hell up.....and Panama was a soft tyranny, too much corruption with all of the drug money. Yugoslavia under Tito was an entirely different story.
You're an idiot if you think America is anywhere close to either Yugoslavia or the "soft" tyranny of Noriega. It didn't feel so damned soft, I can tell you that. And, while I never saw Yugo under Tito, I did see the aftermath when the crazies took control and anybody who would wish that on America ought to be shot for gross stupidity.
I don't know your background or what your history is, but I can guess that most people in this thread have lived here all their lives and don't have a CLUE what they're talking about. Most American's don't. Their only "experience" with other places consists of little more than a Caribbean cruise or a quick trip to an American-style enclave like Cozumel or Cancun.
I'm sure most in this thread have spent their lives protected by things like habeus corpus, the right to a lawyer, innocent until proven guilty and have never had to deal with people "disappearing," or having their wives and children "visited" over a comment they've made. They've never seen opponents of the government snatched off the streets in broad daylight and never seen again, never lived in fear, never had to worry about who might hear a casual comment, never had to guard their tongues or watch what they see, where they go or who they know. They go online or in public places and run their mouths about things they know nothing of and nobody comes knocking on their door at midnight, no "Black Mariah's" prowl the streets in the dark, no uniformed men cut their throats in front of their children as a "lesson" to their offspring.
Tyranny, my ass. You people would be an endless source of laughter if your ignorance weren't so tragic.
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Yes, I have. More than one (I got beat up by the "dignity battalions" once) and I can safely tell you that whatever you think you see here isn't nearly the same. And, if you'd been exposed to real tyranny, you'd know that.
Hell, if this President were a real tyrant, you pussies wouldn't even dare post in a thread like this...IF you had the internet at all.
And that's the point oldguy. The Germans too had a decision to make. They had a card with Ja oder Nein on it. There are many graves in the Lich Catholic cathedral filled with Germans who VOTED Nein!
You need to wake the hell up.....and Panama was a soft tyranny, too much corruption with all of the drug money. Yugoslavia under Tito was an entirely different story.
You're an idiot if you think America is anywhere close to either Yugoslavia or the "soft" tyranny of Noriega. It didn't feel so damned soft, I can tell you that. And, while I never saw Yugo under Tito, I did see the aftermath when the crazies took control and anybody who would wish that on America ought to be shot for gross stupidity.
I don't know your background or what your history is, but I can guess that most people in this thread have lived here all their lives and don't have a CLUE what they're talking about. Most American's don't. Their only "experience" with other places consists of little more than a Caribbean cruise or a quick trip to an American-style enclave like Cozumel or Cancun.
I'm sure most in this thread have spent their lives protected by things like habeus corpus, the right to a lawyer, innocent until proven guilty and have never had to deal with people "disappearing," or having their wives and children "visited" over a comment they've made. They've never seen opponents of the government snatched off the streets in broad daylight and never seen again, never lived in fear, never had to worry about who might hear a casual comment, never had to guard their tongues or watch what they see, where they go or who they know. They go online or in public places and run their mouths about things they know nothing of and nobody comes knocking on their door at midnight, no "Black Mariah's" prowl the streets in the dark, no uniformed men cut their throats in front of their children as a "lesson" to their offspring.
Tyranny, my ass. You people would be an endless source of laughter if your ignorance weren't so tragic.
And that's the point oldguy. The Germans too had a decision to make. They had a card with Ja oder Nein on it. There are many graves in the Lich Catholic cathedral filled with Germans who VOTED Nein!
You need to wake the hell up.....and Panama was a soft tyranny, too much corruption with all of the drug money. Yugoslavia under Tito was an entirely different story.
You're an idiot if you think America is anywhere close to either Yugoslavia or the "soft" tyranny of Noriega. It didn't feel so damned soft, I can tell you that. And, while I never saw Yugo under Tito, I did see the aftermath when the crazies took control and anybody who would wish that on America ought to be shot for gross stupidity.
I don't know your background or what your history is, but I can guess that most people in this thread have lived here all their lives and don't have a CLUE what they're talking about. Most American's don't. Their only "experience" with other places consists of little more than a Caribbean cruise or a quick trip to an American-style enclave like Cozumel or Cancun.
I'm sure most in this thread have spent their lives protected by things like habeus corpus, the right to a lawyer, innocent until proven guilty and have never had to deal with people "disappearing," or having their wives and children "visited" over a comment they've made. They've never seen opponents of the government snatched off the streets in broad daylight and never seen again, never lived in fear, never had to worry about who might hear a casual comment, never had to guard their tongues or watch what they see, where they go or who they know. They go online or in public places and run their mouths about things they know nothing of and nobody comes knocking on their door at midnight, no "Black Mariah's" prowl the streets in the dark, no uniformed men cut their throats in front of their children as a "lesson" to their offspring.
Tyranny, my ass. You people would be an endless source of laughter if your ignorance weren't so tragic.
You asked the question and several have responded. I'm sorry that you don't like the responses.
Additionally, I never stated that "America is a nation of tyrants". However, what I absolutely stand by is that with each passing day - we grow closer and closer. Today, we take for granted that "Government is too big" and that "We OWE something to the government" or that 'The government will "provide" for us".
Americans are quickly being brainwashed into believing that the "Central Authority" is good. That the "government is here to help you". That's all BS and YOU should know that.
If that isn't a recipe for disaster, then tell me - what is?
You're an idiot if you think America is anywhere close to either Yugoslavia or the "soft" tyranny of Noriega. It didn't feel so damned soft, I can tell you that. And, while I never saw Yugo under Tito, I did see the aftermath when the crazies took control and anybody who would wish that on America ought to be shot for gross stupidity.
I don't know your background or what your history is, but I can guess that most people in this thread have lived here all their lives and don't have a CLUE what they're talking about. Most American's don't. Their only "experience" with other places consists of little more than a Caribbean cruise or a quick trip to an American-style enclave like Cozumel or Cancun.
I'm sure most in this thread have spent their lives protected by things like habeus corpus, the right to a lawyer, innocent until proven guilty and have never had to deal with people "disappearing," or having their wives and children "visited" over a comment they've made. They've never seen opponents of the government snatched off the streets in broad daylight and never seen again, never lived in fear, never had to worry about who might hear a casual comment, never had to guard their tongues or watch what they see, where they go or who they know. They go online or in public places and run their mouths about things they know nothing of and nobody comes knocking on their door at midnight, no "Black Mariah's" prowl the streets in the dark, no uniformed men cut their throats in front of their children as a "lesson" to their offspring.
Tyranny, my ass. You people would be an endless source of laughter if your ignorance weren't so tragic.
You asked the question and several have responded. I'm sorry that you don't like the responses.
Additionally, I never stated that "America is a nation of tyrants". However, what I absolutely stand by is that with each passing day - we grow closer and closer. Today, we take for granted that "Government is too big" and that "We OWE something to the government" or that 'The government will "provide" for us".
Americans are quickly being brainwashed into believing that the "Central Authority" is good. That the "government is here to help you". That's all BS and YOU should know that.
If that isn't a recipe for disaster, then tell me - what is?
The biggest recipe for disaster is when people begin to believe the bullshit, when they lose confidence in The People, when they start to believe the lie that THEIR government is no longer responsive, when they forget that WE THE PEOPLE run this place and have ultimate power, when they accept the notion that the legitimately elected President of the United States is illegitimate, when they identify the opposition as the "enemy" and consider anyone who doesn't agree with them a "traitor" and begin act upon those erroneous beliefs to "change" things by violence.
THAT is the recipe for the Balkans in the 1990's, and if you'd seen that, you'd move heaven and earth to prevent it happening here.
You asked the question and several have responded. I'm sorry that you don't like the responses.
Additionally, I never stated that "America is a nation of tyrants". However, what I absolutely stand by is that with each passing day - we grow closer and closer. Today, we take for granted that "Government is too big" and that "We OWE something to the government" or that 'The government will "provide" for us".
Americans are quickly being brainwashed into believing that the "Central Authority" is good. That the "government is here to help you". That's all BS and YOU should know that.
If that isn't a recipe for disaster, then tell me - what is?
The biggest recipe for disaster is when people begin to believe the bullshit, when they lose confidence in The People, when they start to believe the lie that THEIR government is no longer responsive, when they forget that WE THE PEOPLE run this place and have ultimate power, when they accept the notion that the legitimately elected President of the United States is illegitimate, when they identify the opposition as the "enemy" and consider anyone who doesn't agree with them a "traitor" and begin act upon those erroneous beliefs to "change" things by violence.
THAT is the recipe for the Balkans in the 1990's, and if you'd seen that, you'd move heaven and earth to prevent it happening here.
I think you just answered your own question. Been to a public school classroom lately? You should go. It would open your eyes.........
The biggest recipe for disaster is when people begin to believe the bullshit, when they lose confidence in The People, when they start to believe the lie that THEIR government is no longer responsive, when they forget that WE THE PEOPLE run this place and have ultimate power, when they accept the notion that the legitimately elected President of the United States is illegitimate, when they identify the opposition as the "enemy" and consider anyone who doesn't agree with them a "traitor" and begin act upon those erroneous beliefs to "change" things by violence.
THAT is the recipe for the Balkans in the 1990's, and if you'd seen that, you'd move heaven and earth to prevent it happening here.
I think you just answered your own question. Been to a public school classroom lately? You should go. It would open your eyes.........
Yes, I have as a matter of fact, and I was impressed by the upcoming generation of American's. My most fervent prayer is that idiots like y'all don't plunge their future into a morass of violence, death and blood in the name of opposing the imaginary nonexistent "tyranny" of Barack Obama.
I think you just answered your own question. Been to a public school classroom lately? You should go. It would open your eyes.........
Yes, I have as a matter of fact, and I was impressed by the upcoming generation of American's. My most fervent prayer is that idiots like y'all don't plunge their future into a morass of violence, death and blood in the name of opposing the imaginary nonexistent "tyranny" of Barack Obama.
You know, in my first post to you, I put a little something for you near the bottom of my post. I'm sure that you can find a translator somewhere on the internet. I typed that just for you.
It very aptly applies to you. Hope you enjoy it.
Obama gave this speech knowing his IRS was targeting his opposition...
Obama to Ohio State Grads: Reject Voices Warning of Government Tyranny - YouTube
No, no, no. He was just as surprised as all of us.
Yes, I have. More than one (I got beat up by the "dignity battalions" once) and I can safely tell you that whatever you think you see here isn't nearly the same. And, if you'd been exposed to real tyranny, you'd know that.
Hell, if this President were a real tyrant, you pussies wouldn't even dare post in a thread like this...IF you had the internet at all.
And that's the point oldguy. The Germans too had a decision to make. They had a card with Ja oder Nein on it. There are many graves in the Lich Catholic cathedral filled with Germans who VOTED Nein!
You need to wake the hell up.....and Panama was a soft tyranny, too much corruption with all of the drug money. Yugoslavia under Tito was an entirely different story.
You're an idiot if you think America is anywhere close to either Yugoslavia or the "soft" tyranny of Noriega. It didn't feel so damned soft, I can tell you that. And, while I never saw Yugo under Tito, I did see the aftermath when the crazies took control and anybody who would wish that on America ought to be shot for gross stupidity.
I don't know your background or what your history is, but I can guess that most people in this thread have lived here all their lives and don't have a CLUE what they're talking about. Most American's don't. Their only "experience" with other places consists of little more than a Caribbean cruise or a quick trip to an American-style enclave like Cozumel or Cancun.
I'm sure most in this thread have spent their lives protected by things like habeus corpus, the right to a lawyer, innocent until proven guilty and have never had to deal with people "disappearing," or having their wives and children "visited" over a comment they've made. They've never seen opponents of the government snatched off the streets in broad daylight and never seen again, never lived in fear, never had to worry about who might hear a casual comment, never had to guard their tongues or watch what they see, where they go or who they know. They go online or in public places and run their mouths about things they know nothing of and nobody comes knocking on their door at midnight, no "Black Mariah's" prowl the streets in the dark, no uniformed men cut their throats in front of their children as a "lesson" to their offspring.
Tyranny, my ass. You people would be an endless source of laughter if your ignorance weren't so tragic.
"Reject Voices Warning of Government Tyranny... or else!" - B. Obama
How many tyrannical governments have y'all been exposed to? Have you ever been in a country ruled by a real, honest to gosh tyrant, with secret police and everything, where there is no rule of law outside the will of the tyrant?
If you haven't, I'd suggest you pick one and go spend a week or so there. Then, come back here and compare America's "tyranny" with the real thing.
How many tyrannical governments have y'all been exposed to? Have you ever been in a country ruled by a real, honest to gosh tyrant, with secret police and everything, where there is no rule of law outside the will of the tyrant?
If you haven't, I'd suggest you pick one and go spend a week or so there. Then, come back here and compare America's "tyranny" with the real thing.
Yes, I have. How about you oldguy? This BS by the IRS is merely the beginning. Holder is up to his neck in illegal activity and it is now a very, very small step to outright dictatorship. If the admin washes this shit under the rug and ignores it then there is no longer a legit legal system in this country and that is another civil liberty gone.
What we are heading toward now is a soft tyranny. If it gets just a little bit worse you will se a Mugabe like government very, very soon. You're a fool if you try and defend this criminal behavior.
Yes, I have. More than one (I got beat up by the "dignity battalions" once) and I can safely tell you that whatever you think you see here isn't nearly the same. And, if you'd been exposed to real tyranny, you'd know that.
Hell, if this President were a real tyrant, you pussies wouldn't even dare post in a thread like this...IF you had the internet at all.
You're an idiot if you think America is anywhere close to either Yugoslavia or the "soft" tyranny of Noriega. It didn't feel so damned soft, I can tell you that. And, while I never saw Yugo under Tito, I did see the aftermath when the crazies took control and anybody who would wish that on America ought to be shot for gross stupidity.
I don't know your background or what your history is, but I can guess that most people in this thread have lived here all their lives and don't have a CLUE what they're talking about. Most American's don't. Their only "experience" with other places consists of little more than a Caribbean cruise or a quick trip to an American-style enclave like Cozumel or Cancun.
I'm sure most in this thread have spent their lives protected by things like habeus corpus, the right to a lawyer, innocent until proven guilty and have never had to deal with people "disappearing," or having their wives and children "visited" over a comment they've made. They've never seen opponents of the government snatched off the streets in broad daylight and never seen again, never lived in fear, never had to worry about who might hear a casual comment, never had to guard their tongues or watch what they see, where they go or who they know. They go online or in public places and run their mouths about things they know nothing of and nobody comes knocking on their door at midnight, no "Black Mariah's" prowl the streets in the dark, no uniformed men cut their throats in front of their children as a "lesson" to their offspring.
Tyranny, my ass. You people would be an endless source of laughter if your ignorance weren't so tragic.
You asked the question and several have responded. I'm sorry that you don't like the responses.
Additionally, I never stated that "America is a nation of tyrants". However, what I absolutely stand by is that with each passing day - we grow closer and closer. Today, we take for granted that "Government is too big" and that "We OWE something to the government" or that 'The government will "provide" for us".
Americans are quickly being brainwashed into believing that the "Central Authority" is good. That the "government is here to help you". That's all BS and YOU should know that.
If that isn't a recipe for disaster, then tell me - what is?
The biggest recipe for disaster is when people begin to believe the bullshit, when they lose confidence in The People, when they start to believe the lie that THEIR government is no longer responsive, when they forget that WE THE PEOPLE run this place and have ultimate power, when they accept the notion that the legitimately elected President of the United States is illegitimate, when they identify the opposition as the "enemy" and consider anyone who doesn't agree with them a "traitor" and begin act upon those erroneous beliefs to "change" things by violence.
THAT is the recipe for the Balkans in the 1990's, and if you'd seen that, you'd move heaven and earth to prevent it happening here.