Obama’s War on Israel

[rhodescholar]

Israel is well protected now and has been for quite sometime. So there's no need for them to rely on a bully like what's his name to lead their country into even more questionable wars.

How is it "well-protected"? It is surrounded in the south by hamas, north by hezbollah, and east by the PLO. Plus there are 400 MM hostile arab muslims and 80 MM persians living outside its borders, most of whom want to attack and destroy it. Facts much, chimp?

 

[pwjohn]

Israel is well protected now and has been for quite sometime. So there's no need for them to rely on a bully like what's his name to lead their country into even more questionable wars.

How is it "well-protected"? It is surrounded in the south by hamas, north by hezbollah, and east by the PLO. Plus there are 400 MM hostile arab muslims and 80 MM persians living outside its borders, most of whom want to attack and destroy it. Facts much, chimp?

The level of ignorance you happily put on display here is astounding. No, breathtaking. As a matter of fact, you a deeply stupid man.

 

[rhodescholar]

The level of ignorance you happily put on display here is astounding. No, breathtaking. As a matter of fact, you a deeply stupid man.

Good reply, weak minded turd. I provide facts/histroy, weak trash like you insults, no surprise there. When you reach 1/1000th my level of mideast knowledge idiot, THEN you can address me. Until then, fuck off and vanish little girl.

 

[AmericanFirst1]

Israel is well protected now and has been for quite sometime. So there's no need for them to rely on a bully like what's his name to lead their country into even more questionable wars.

How is it "well-protected"? It is surrounded in the south by hamas, north by hezbollah, and east by the PLO. Plus there are 400 MM hostile arab muslims and 80 MM persians living outside its borders, most of whom want to attack and destroy it. Facts much, chimp?

The level of ignorance you happily put on display here is astounding. No, breathtaking. As a matter of fact, you a deeply stupid man.

Prove him wrong, guess what, you can't. Obuthole and Kerry are stupid fools.

 

[theliq]

Obama’s “Shameful Betrayal” of Israel
Netanyahu calls it right.
December 28, 2016
Bruce Thornton

If any doubts remained about Obama’s malignant narcissism, historical ignorance, and geopolitical cretinism, the lame-duck-in-chief dispelled them with his abstention at the Security Council vote on a resolution slandering Israeli “settlements” as the foremost obstacle to peace. Undoing this despicable abandonment of a crucial ally should shoot to the top of incoming president Donald Trump’s to-do list.

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In reality, the legitimacy of American actions is conferred by the democratic process: the free, open debate on the part of citizens who can hold their leaders accountable and have a sense of the ideals and principles that animate our foreign policy and provide its goals. Subjecting those decisions to the corrupt deliberations of the U.N. often compromises our own interests and endangers our national security.

So punish the U.N. for damaging our ally, then start the process of getting out by withholding our dues. That will get the world’s attention and, like the thought of being hanged in a fortnight, concentrate their minds wonderfully.

Obama’s “Shameful Betrayal” of Israel

 

[theliq]

Obama’s “Shameful Betrayal” of Israel
Netanyahu calls it right.
December 28, 2016
Bruce Thornton

If any doubts remained about Obama’s malignant narcissism, historical ignorance, and geopolitical cretinism, the lame-duck-in-chief dispelled them with his abstention at the Security Council vote on a resolution slandering Israeli “settlements” as the foremost obstacle to peace. Undoing this despicable abandonment of a crucial ally should shoot to the top of incoming president Donald Trump’s to-do list.

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In reality, the legitimacy of American actions is conferred by the democratic process: the free, open debate on the part of citizens who can hold their leaders accountable and have a sense of the ideals and principles that animate our foreign policy and provide its goals. Subjecting those decisions to the corrupt deliberations of the U.N. often compromises our own interests and endangers our national security.

So punish the U.N. for damaging our ally, then start the process of getting out by withholding our dues. That will get the world’s attention and, like the thought of being hanged in a fortnight, concentrate their minds wonderfully.

Obama’s “Shameful Betrayal” of Israel

Stupid as POST a

 

[Carl in Michigan]

If it were up to a lot of people we wouldn't be sending Israel money. It's time a sovereign country learned to stand on it's own two feet.

Why do the Israel haters ONLY say that about Israel.

We give BILLIONS to nations that want every Israeli AND American DEAD.

 

[theliq]

Garbage Post by the Angel

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Why attempt something he has no chance of getting? He would only lose favor politically. If it were up to him we wouldn't be sending Israel any money.

We shouldn't! We shouldn't send them one taxpayer dime. It's not like they're a country of starving Ethiopian's. They're a country of big-mouth assholes, running around the ME like their shit don't stink.

It's seems there are a lot of people on this board that are more loyal to Israel, than they are to the United States of America.

You have no idea what you're talking about. An opinion formed of ignorance.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Frankly, I'm wondering why we are spending billions of our tax dollars subsidizing Israel.

Because they're the only stable democracy among sharks

 

[AmericanFirst1]

Garbage Post by the Angel

Took you three tries to get this stupid response out? Have you graduated kindergarten yet?

 

[theliq]

Garbage Post by the Angel

Took you three tries to get this stupid response out? Have you graduated kindergarten yet?

 

[theliq]

Garbage Post by the Angel

Took you three tries to get this stupid response out? Have you graduated kindergarten yet?

 

[theliq]

Garbage Post by the Angel

Took you three tries to get this stupid response out? Have you graduated kindergarten yet?

LOL....garbage pOsT by U 2

 

[theliq]

Frankly, I'm wondering why we are spending billions of our tax dollars subsidizing Israel.

Because they're the only stable democracy among sharks

democracy ???????? you have a strange idea of democracy

 

[theliq]

If it were up to a lot of people we wouldn't be sending Israel money. It's time a sovereign country learned to stand on it's own two feet.

Why do the Israel haters ONLY say that about Israel.

We give BILLIONS to nations that want every Israeli AND American DEAD.

And Trillions to Israel.....who would drop you like a brick when it suited them.......Get Real

 

[theliq]

Frankly, I'm wondering why we are spending billions of our tax dollars subsidizing Israel.

Because they're the only stable democracy among sharks

DITTO

 

[JoeB131]

Frankly, I'm wondering why we are spending billions of our tax dollars subsidizing Israel.

Because they're the only stable democracy among sharks

Israel isn't a democracy. You don't get to call yourself a democracy when you limit who can vote.

 

[American_Jihad]

Obama and Israel, strike and counter-strike
The next stage in Obama's all-out assault on Israel.
December 30, 2016
Caroline Glick

Originally published by the Jerusalem Post.

UN Security Council Resolution 2334 was the first prong of outgoing President Barack Obama’s lame duck campaign against Israel.

US Secretary of State John Kerry’s speech on Wednesday was the second.

On January 15, stage 3 will commence in Paris.

At France’s lame duck President François Hollande’s international conference, the foreign ministers of some 50 states are expected to adopt as their own Kerry’s anti-Israel principles.

The next day it will be Obama’s turn. Obama can be expected to use the occasion of Martin Luther King Jr. Day to present the Palestinian war to annihilate Israel as a natural progression from the American Civil Rights movement that King led 50 years ago.

Finally, sometime between January 17 and 19, Obama intends for the Security Council to reconvene and follow the gang at the Paris conference by adopting Kerry’s positions as a Security Council resolution. That follow-on resolution may also recognize “Palestine” and grant it full membership in the UN.

True, Kerry said the administration will not put forward another Security Council resolution.

But as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu explained in his response to Kerry’s address, there is ample reason to suspect that France or Sweden, or both, will put forth such a resolution. Since the draft will simply be a restatement of Kerry’s speech, Obama will not veto it.

Whether or not Obama gets his second Security Council resolution remains to be seen. But whether he succeeds or fails, he’s already caused most of the damage. A follow-on resolution will only amplify the blow Israel absorbed with 2334.

Resolution 2334 harms Israel in two ways. First, it effectively abrogates Resolution 242 from 1967 which formed the basis of Israeli policy-making for the past 49 years. Second, 2334 gives a strategic boost to the international campaign to boycott the Jewish state.

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In his speech, Kerry repeatedly castigated the government while flattering the Israeli Left in yet another attempt to divide and polarize Israeli society. Kerry’s professed support for the Israeli Left is deeply ironic because Israeli leftists are the primary casualties of Obama’s anti-Israel assault.


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In three weeks, Obama’s war with Israel will end. His final legacy – the destruction of the landfor- peace paradigm and the two-state policy-making model – obligate Israel, for the first time in 50 years, to determine by itself its long-term goals in relation to the international community, the Palestinians and Judea and Samaria.

Regarding the international community, the Security Council opened the door for its members to boycott Israel. As a result, Israel should show the UN and its factotums the door. Israel should work to de-internationalize the Palestinian conflict by expelling UN personnel from its territory.

The same is the case with the EU. Once Britain exits the EU, Israel should end the EU’s illegal operations in Judea and Samaria and declare EU personnel acting illegally persona non grata.

As for the Palestinians, Resolution 2334 obligates Israel to reconsider its recognition of the PLO. Since 1993, Israel has recognized the PLO despite its deep and continuous engagement in terrorism. Israel legitimized the PLO because the terrorist group was ostensibly its partner in peace. Now, after the PLO successfully killed the peace process by getting the Security Council to abrogate 242, Israel’s continued recognition of the PLO makes little sense. Neither PLO chief Mahmoud Abbas nor his deputies in Fatah – convicted, imprisoned mass murderer and terrorism master Marwan Barghouti, and Jibril Rajoub who said he wishes he had a nuclear bomb so he could drop it on Israel and who tried to get Israel expelled from FIFA – has any interest in recognizing Israel, let alone making peace with it. The same of course can be said for the PLO’s coalition partner Hamas.

An Israeli decision to stop recognizing the PLO will also have implications for the Trump administration.

In the aftermath of 2334, calls are steadily mounting in Congress for the US cancel its recognition of the PLO and end US financial support for the Palestinian Authority. If Israel has already ended its recognition of the PLO, chances will rise that the US will follow suit. Such a US move will have positive strategic implications for Israel.

There is also the question of the Palestinian militias that are deployed to Judea and Samaria as part of the peace process that Obama and the PLO officially ended last Friday. In the coming months, Israel will need to decide what to do about these hostile militias that take their orders from leaders who reject peaceful coexistence with Israel.

Finally, there are the territories themselves. For 50 years, Israel has used the land-for-peace paradigm as a way not to decide what to do with Judea and Samaria. Now that 242 has been effectively abrogated, Israel has to decide what it wants.

The no-brainer is to allow Jews to build wherever they have the legal right to build. If the UN says Israel has no rights to Jerusalem, then Israel has no reason to distinguish between Jerusalem and Elon Moreh.

More broadly, given that for the foreseeable future, there will be no Palestinian Authority interested in making peace with Israel, Israel needs to think about the best way to administer Judea and Samaria going forward. The obvious step of applying Israeli law to Area C now becomes almost inarguable.

Shortly before Obama took office eight years ago, he promised to “fundamentally transform” America. Trump’s election scuttled any chance he had of doing so.

But by enabling Resolution 2334 to pass in the Security Council, Obama has succeeded in fundamentally transforming the nature of the Palestinian conflict with Israel. Israel’s actions in the coming weeks will determine whether it is fundamentally transformed for better or for worse.

Obama and Israel, strike and counter-strike

 

[American_Jihad]

Scorched Israel
Obama sets a diplomatic fire to the Jewish State as he departs the Oval Office.
January 6, 2017
Deborah Weiss

Literally weeks prior to Obama’s departure from the Oval office, his Administration makes a series of moves that light a diplomatic fire to Israel on his way out the door.

Last week, UN Security Council Resolution 2334 passed, condemning all settlement activity on what the resolution referred to as "occupied territory" in Israel, asserting that such activity is a “flagrant violation of international law.” The Obama Administration abstained from the vote, parting from a long historical precedent of the U.S. opposing anti-Israel resolutions. America’s refusal to protect Israel through its veto power, paved the way for an anti-settlement resolution to pass for the first time in decades.

This resolution has all kinds of ramifications including but not limited to the following: 1) the territory in Judea and Samaria can now be referred to as "occupied territory" rather than its proper legal status which is “territory of undetermined permanent status”; 2) it can potentially lead to Israel being called to the International Criminal Court and prosecuted for settlement building; 3) Israel can potentially now be sanctioned for its settlement activity; 4) it sets the stage for rampant boycotts against Israel by the UN (more on this later) and 5) makes it acceptable for EU countries to mark on their products where the products were made so people can boycott companies in the West bank. 6) Most importantly, this resolution takes off the negotiating table, the possible transfer of land for peace in potential discussions between the so-called "Palestinians" and the Israelis. Instead, it pressures the Israelis to capitulate to Palestinian demands while getting nothing in return. It leaves no incentive for the Palestinians to put a halt to their terrorist activity or for Hamas leadership to recognize Israel as a Jewish State.

In keeping with the spirit of former agreements, the UN should refrain from trying to create a state of Palestine absent face to face negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians. Though UNSCR 2334 focuses on condemnation of Israel, it is the Palestinians, and not the Israelis who refuse to engage in bilateral discussions and instead are trying to make an end run around face to face negotiations.

In recent days, UK officials claim credit (or blame, depending on one’s viewpoint), for negotiating the language of the resolution and influencing its passage, but Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israeli Ambassador Ron Dermer assert that they have indisputable evidence that it was the U.S. who worked behind the scenes directly with the Palestinians to orchestrate this diplomatic attack on Israel. Either way, the U.S. cannot claim to be merely a disinterested observer, given its power on the UN Security Council, and in light of Secretary Kerry’s staunch criticism of Israel, delivered in his speech following passage of the resolution.

I hope all the "pro-Israel" Democrats, especially if Jewish, are happy that they voted for Obama based on delusional claims by the New York Times and the MSM that Obama was “pro-Israel”. The rest of us knew that Obama was not a friend of Israel’s from the onset. He is in fact, the most anti-Israel president we've had since Jimmy Carter, with exactly the mindset that should be expected from someone who was schooled in Kenyan Madrassas and whose half-brother is a leadership member of the Islamic Da’wa organization in Sudan, a radical pro-Sharia organization in Africa.

On the same day that UNSC Resolution 2334 passed, the UN got busy to work to creating a blacklist of companies that do business with any Jews in Judea, Samaria as well as East Jerusalem. And though the Obama Administration opposed the creation of this list, once the list was a fait de complete, the Obama Administration voted for the resolution that passed the proposed budget in the UN General Assembly which included funding to maintain a data base of the blacklisted companies. There is also a small budget for a staffer to maintain the data base.

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Obama is wrecking the house on his way out of office. He no longer needs his pro-Israel political chips. During the last days of his presidency, he is proving to do a lot of damage to Israel (and other foreign policy fronts) and there’s still time for him to do more. In my view, he is sticking it to Israel for two reasons: first, the views expressed now are what he always believed and he no longer has to hide it. His true colors are coming out. Second, he is doing everything he can on foreign policy matters to make things as difficult as possible for Trump when he becomes President.

Despite all this, it is worth noting that Trump --- you know, the guy the Left is calling Hitler, is the only one standing up for Israel, and indeed portends to be one of the most pro-Israel presidents that the US has ever seen.

Scorched Israel

He's digging a hole for his Legacy...