Obama sending US Marshalls to ARREST those who owe federal student loans! Dang libs...

[Skylar]

They werent. Read your damn OP.

They are being taken into custody. Otherwise....why send Marshals?
U.S. Marshals Service Sending SWAT Teams Out to Arrest People for Unpaid Student Loans

The guy in your OP was not "taken into custody", he was brought into court to respond to a bench warrent. He was not put in jail.

Ummmm...any LEO "taking" someone to court on a Bench Warrant is an arrest.

You are correct.

Nevertheless, bucs' wording implies that this man was put in jail and charged with a crime, neither of which occurred.

So Obamas Marshals under his DOJ...lead by Lolo Lynch....are rounding up innocent people at gun point without probable cause of any crime???

The federal marshals, created as the enforcement arm of the judiciary were issued a bench warrant for the arrest of the guy in the OP by the federal judiciary....and the judge directed the marshals to arrest him.

So much for your claim that 'Obama send the marshals'. As usual, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, bucky.

 

[bucs90]

Indeed

Arrest americans for seeking a better life through education but ignore 11 million illegal aliens who, OH BY THE WAY.....

ARE DRIVING AMERICAN WAGES DOWN - MAKING IT HARDER TO EARN ENOUGH TO PAY THE DAMN LOANS

Just sayin

That's right. Obama sets federal LE enforcement priorities.

And rounding up students who are in debt are a bigger priority than illegal aliens.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

They werent. Read your damn OP.

They are being taken into custody. Otherwise....why send Marshals?
U.S. Marshals Service Sending SWAT Teams Out to Arrest People for Unpaid Student Loans

The guy in your OP was not "taken into custody", he was brought into court to respond to a bench warrent. He was not put in jail.

Ummmm...any LEO "taking" someone to court on a Bench Warrant is an arrest.

You are correct.

Nevertheless, bucs' wording implies that this man was put in jail and charged with a crime, neither of which occurred.

So Obamas Marshals under his DOJ...lead by Lolo Lynch....are rounding up innocent people at gun point without probable cause of any crime???

Noooo, the US Marshals, acting under their responsibilities as enforcers of the Judiciary, served a bench warrant under the orders of a federal judge.

Do you know what a bench warrant is, Mr. Policeman?

 

[Skylar]

Then show us the evidence that Obama sent the marshals to arrest the guy in the OP.

It should be remarkably easy for you if your claims have merit. If you're talking out of your ass, it might be slightly more difficult.

So the conspiracy horseshit of the OP has devolved to 'Obama sent the Marshals' to 'Obama could do something about this'.

Laughing....nice backpedal. The Judge sent these marshals. Not the President.

My gawd, you are a stupid kunt. You should read what write, not what the voices in your head are telling you what I write.

Just at this administration has credit for Bin Laden, it has credit for these arrests.

Again, shit-stain.....the President didn't send anyone to arrest this guy. The federal judiciary sent the marshals. They were enforcing a federal arrest warrant to bring the man to court. The article in the OP confirms as much. The marshals are the enforcement arm of the federal judiciary. And have been since 1789.

Even you've had to abandon the pseudo-legal horseshit of the OP, desperately backing away from the nonsense idiocy that 'Obama sent the Marshals' and retreating into "Obama could have done something'.

Try again, dipshit. This time using your brain and actually reading the article you're babbling about. Its called 'accountability'.

The Judiciary can't send them. All they can do is issue a warrant and ask for them to serve it. Judges aren't in the Marshals chain of command. Marshals are Executive Branch under DOJ. Judges are Judicial Branch.

So you now admit that its the judge that issued the warrant and directed the marshals to arrest the guy.

So much for your pseudo-legal horseshit that "Obama sent the marshals'. Even you've abandoned that nonsense.

Never said a judge didn't.

Sure you did. When you said it was Obama that sent the Marshals. Obama didn't send anyone. The judge did. Which you didn't know as you didn't read the article in the OP.

The judge issued the warrant. The judge directed the marshals to execute the warrant. And your 'Obama sent the marshals' narrative falls apart yet again.

Remember, you don't know a fucking thing about how the law works.

 

[Care4all]

US Marshals are Executive branch

In this case, they are acting under their responsibilities as enforcers of the US Federal Court system, under court orders obtained by private debt collectors.

This is all in the link in the OP that no one bothered to read.

Again.....under the approval of their boss. Obama.

Again, Obama didn't 'send' anyone, sweetie. This was between the Marshall service and the Federal Courts. It was the courts that ordered the arrests.

The entire title of the thread is just more conspiracy addled horseshit that your ilk gobble up without thinking, hon.

And Obama allowed the Marshalls to be sent to round em up.

Did GHW BUSH do that too? How about Clinton, him too?

Tell us who in Congress voted down revising and reforming this?

YOU GOT IT!

Republicans, conservatives, and now you want to bitch about it.....?

Is this some kind of joke?

 

[bodecea]

My gawd, you are a stupid kunt. You should read what write, not what the voices in your head are telling you what I write.

Just at this administration has credit for Bin Laden, it has credit for these arrests.

Again, shit-stain.....the President didn't send anyone to arrest this guy. The federal judiciary sent the marshals. They were enforcing a federal arrest warrant to bring the man to court. The article in the OP confirms as much. The marshals are the enforcement arm of the federal judiciary. And have been since 1789.

Even you've had to abandon the pseudo-legal horseshit of the OP, desperately backing away from the nonsense idiocy that 'Obama sent the Marshals' and retreating into "Obama could have done something'.

Try again, dipshit. This time using your brain and actually reading the article you're babbling about. Its called 'accountability'.

The Judiciary can't send them. All they can do is issue a warrant and ask for them to serve it. Judges aren't in the Marshals chain of command. Marshals are Executive Branch under DOJ. Judges are Judicial Branch.

So you now admit that its the judge that issued the warrant and directed the marshals to arrest the guy.

So much for your pseudo-legal horseshit that "Obama sent the marshals'. Even you've abandoned that nonsense.

Never said a judge didn't.

Sure you did. When you said it was Obama that sent the Marshals. Obama didn't send anyone. The judge did. Which you didn't know as you didn't read the article in the OP.

The judge issued the warrant. The judge directed the marshals to execute the warrant. And your 'Obama sent the marshals' narrative falls apart yet again.

Remember, you don't know a fucking thing about how the law works.

Maybe that's why he got shitcanned from law enforcement.

 

[Skylar]

They are being taken into custody. Otherwise....why send Marshals?
U.S. Marshals Service Sending SWAT Teams Out to Arrest People for Unpaid Student Loans

The guy in your OP was not "taken into custody", he was brought into court to respond to a bench warrent. He was not put in jail.

Ummmm...any LEO "taking" someone to court on a Bench Warrant is an arrest.

You are correct.

Nevertheless, bucs' wording implies that this man was put in jail and charged with a crime, neither of which occurred.

So Obamas Marshals under his DOJ...lead by Lolo Lynch....are rounding up innocent people at gun point without probable cause of any crime???

Noooo, the US Marshals, acting under their responsibilities as enforcers of the Judiciary, served a bench warrant under the orders of a federal judge.

Do you know what a bench warrant is, Mr. Policeman?

Buc's never been a cop, Doc. He hates cops. Bucky's hatred of cops runs so deep his latest batshit conspiracy theory has Texas LEO's participating in the murder of Scalia. Either that or being so god awful incompetent that they couldn't recognize foul play per his latest little conspiracy.

Actual cops don't hate cops as much as Bucky clearly does.

 

[bucs90]

They are being taken into custody. Otherwise....why send Marshals?
U.S. Marshals Service Sending SWAT Teams Out to Arrest People for Unpaid Student Loans

The guy in your OP was not "taken into custody", he was brought into court to respond to a bench warrent. He was not put in jail.

Ummmm...any LEO "taking" someone to court on a Bench Warrant is an arrest.

You are correct.

Nevertheless, bucs' wording implies that this man was put in jail and charged with a crime, neither of which occurred.

So Obamas Marshals under his DOJ...lead by Lolo Lynch....are rounding up innocent people at gun point without probable cause of any crime???

The federal marshals, created as the enforcement arm of the judiciary were issued a bench warrant for the arrest of the guy in the OP by the federal judiciary....and the judge directed the marshals to arrest him.

So much for your claim that 'Obama send the marshals'. As usual, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, bucky.

For the final time.....the judge cannot DIRECT them to do shit. He can request it. He is not in their chain of command.

For a person saying I don't know what I'm talking about, you sure don't grasp chain of command or separation of powers.

Hint. Law enforcement is under the Executive Branch. Judges are under the Judicial Branch.

Police chiefs cannot give orders to a judge. And a judge cannot give orders to a law enforcement officer. Different branches. Different chains of command.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Then show us the evidence that Obama sent the marshals to arrest the guy in the OP.

It should be remarkably easy for you if your claims have merit. If you're talking out of your ass, it might be slightly more difficult.

So the conspiracy horseshit of the OP has devolved to 'Obama sent the Marshals' to 'Obama could do something about this'.

Laughing....nice backpedal. The Judge sent these marshals. Not the President.

My gawd, you are a stupid kunt. You should read what write, not what the voices in your head are telling you what I write.

Just at this administration has credit for Bin Laden, it has credit for these arrests.

Again, shit-stain.....the President didn't send anyone to arrest this guy. The federal judiciary sent the marshals. They were enforcing a federal arrest warrant to bring the man to court. The article in the OP confirms as much. The marshals are the enforcement arm of the federal judiciary. And have been since 1789.

Even you've had to abandon the pseudo-legal horseshit of the OP, desperately backing away from the nonsense idiocy that 'Obama sent the Marshals' and retreating into "Obama could have done something'.

Try again, dipshit. This time using your brain and actually reading the article you're babbling about. Its called 'accountability'.

The Judiciary can't send them. All they can do is issue a warrant and ask for them to serve it. Judges aren't in the Marshals chain of command. Marshals are Executive Branch under DOJ. Judges are Judicial Branch.

So you now admit that its the judge that issued the warrant and directed the marshals to arrest the guy.

So much for your pseudo-legal horseshit that "Obama sent the marshals'. Even you've abandoned that nonsense.

Never said a judge didn't. Only a judge can issue warrants. A judge can issue a warrant for a person to be arrested for wearing cargo shorts if they want.

It's up to the Executive Branch to decide if they will act on the warrant. That's the balance of power against rogue judges.

And....our Federal Executive Branch decided...yes...let's round up these student loan debtors.

It is not "up to the executive branch" to decide whether to enforce a bench warrant.

 

[Moonglow]

Probably start a debtor's prison soon.

They already do, it's called marriage...

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The guy in your OP was not "taken into custody", he was brought into court to respond to a bench warrent. He was not put in jail.

Ummmm...any LEO "taking" someone to court on a Bench Warrant is an arrest.

You are correct.

Nevertheless, bucs' wording implies that this man was put in jail and charged with a crime, neither of which occurred.

So Obamas Marshals under his DOJ...lead by Lolo Lynch....are rounding up innocent people at gun point without probable cause of any crime???

The federal marshals, created as the enforcement arm of the judiciary were issued a bench warrant for the arrest of the guy in the OP by the federal judiciary....and the judge directed the marshals to arrest him.

So much for your claim that 'Obama send the marshals'. As usual, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, bucky.

For the final time.....the judge cannot DIRECT them to do shit. He can request it. He is not in their chain of command.

For a person saying I don't know what I'm talking about, you sure don't grasp chain of command or separation of powers.

Hint. Law enforcement is under the Executive Branch. Judges are under the Judicial Branch.

Police chiefs cannot give orders to a judge. And a judge cannot give orders to a law enforcement officer. Different branches. Different chains of command.

It is quite amazing to me how staggeringly wrong you are about what you claimed to do for a living.

 

[bucs90]

Again, shit-stain.....the President didn't send anyone to arrest this guy. The federal judiciary sent the marshals. They were enforcing a federal arrest warrant to bring the man to court. The article in the OP confirms as much. The marshals are the enforcement arm of the federal judiciary. And have been since 1789.

Even you've had to abandon the pseudo-legal horseshit of the OP, desperately backing away from the nonsense idiocy that 'Obama sent the Marshals' and retreating into "Obama could have done something'.

Try again, dipshit. This time using your brain and actually reading the article you're babbling about. Its called 'accountability'.

The Judiciary can't send them. All they can do is issue a warrant and ask for them to serve it. Judges aren't in the Marshals chain of command. Marshals are Executive Branch under DOJ. Judges are Judicial Branch.

So you now admit that its the judge that issued the warrant and directed the marshals to arrest the guy.

So much for your pseudo-legal horseshit that "Obama sent the marshals'. Even you've abandoned that nonsense.

Never said a judge didn't.

Sure you did. When you said it was Obama that sent the Marshals. Obama didn't send anyone. The judge did. Which you didn't know as you didn't read the article in the OP.

The judge issued the warrant. The judge directed the marshals to execute the warrant. And your 'Obama sent the marshals' narrative falls apart yet again.

Remember, you don't know a fucking thing about how the law works.

Maybe that's why he got shitcanned from law enforcement.

Bodecea....was that crow good? Do you understand the difference in the executive and judicial branches now? Do you now know which branch the Marshals are under? You're welcome.

 

[Si modo]

Then how were they taken into custody?

They werent. Read your damn OP.

They are being taken into custody. Otherwise....why send Marshals?
U.S. Marshals Service Sending SWAT Teams Out to Arrest People for Unpaid Student Loans

The guy in your OP was not "taken into custody", he was brought into court to respond to a bench warrent. He was not put in jail.

Ummmm...any LEO "taking" someone to court on a Bench Warrant is an arrest.

You are correct.

Nevertheless, bucs' wording implies that this man was put in jail and charged with a crime, neither of which occurred.

I don't know if the man spent any time in jail, but there cannot be an arrest without a charge of a crime. The crime in this case was a capais for failure to appear on something for which he was never served.

The problem which is MY concern (in addition to the poor "investment" choices of the government with our money on toxic assets) is the DoJ has contracted out collections on education debts to private debt collectors. That's an annoying bunch, at best.

However, because these are federal debts, the debt collectors are now federal contractors. As such, they are not obliged to following debt collection laws - laws enacted to protect consumers. Pretty slick in a sick sort of way. And, now...folks are getting arrested for debts. Unheard of in modern times (except for dead beat dads).

This is a policy unique to this administration. Personally, I see it as a problem which needs to be addressed. Then again, I'm no doe-eyed groupie who thinks nothing ever bad happens under this administration.

 

[bucs90]

Ummmm...any LEO "taking" someone to court on a Bench Warrant is an arrest.

You are correct.

Nevertheless, bucs' wording implies that this man was put in jail and charged with a crime, neither of which occurred.

So Obamas Marshals under his DOJ...lead by Lolo Lynch....are rounding up innocent people at gun point without probable cause of any crime???

The federal marshals, created as the enforcement arm of the judiciary were issued a bench warrant for the arrest of the guy in the OP by the federal judiciary....and the judge directed the marshals to arrest him.

So much for your claim that 'Obama send the marshals'. As usual, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, bucky.

For the final time.....the judge cannot DIRECT them to do shit. He can request it. He is not in their chain of command.

For a person saying I don't know what I'm talking about, you sure don't grasp chain of command or separation of powers.

Hint. Law enforcement is under the Executive Branch. Judges are under the Judicial Branch.

Police chiefs cannot give orders to a judge. And a judge cannot give orders to a law enforcement officer. Different branches. Different chains of command.

It is quite amazing to me how staggeringly wrong you are about what you claimed to do for a living.

Then explain.

 

[Moonglow]

Obama didn't send them, why do you have to lie?

They are US MARSHALLS. Who is their boss?

Their superior in the Marshal's district...

 

[bucs90]

They werent. Read your damn OP.

They are being taken into custody. Otherwise....why send Marshals?
U.S. Marshals Service Sending SWAT Teams Out to Arrest People for Unpaid Student Loans

The guy in your OP was not "taken into custody", he was brought into court to respond to a bench warrent. He was not put in jail.

Ummmm...any LEO "taking" someone to court on a Bench Warrant is an arrest.

You are correct.

Nevertheless, bucs' wording implies that this man was put in jail and charged with a crime, neither of which occurred.

I don't know if the man spent any time in jail, but there cannot be an arrest without a charge of a crime. The crime in this case was a capais for failure to appear on something for which he was never served.

The problem which is MY concern (in addition to the poor "investment" choices of the government with our money on toxic assets) is the DoJ has contracted out collections on debts to private debt collectors. That's fine an annoying bunch, at best.

However, because these are federal debts, the debt collectors are now federal contractors. As such, they are not obliged to following debt collection laws - laws enacted to protect consumers. Pretty slickin a sick sort of way. And, now...folks are getting arrested for debts. Unheard of in modern times (except for dead beat dads).

This is a policy unique to this administration. Personally, I see it as a problem which needs to be addressed. Then again, I'm no doe-eyed groupie who thinks nothing ever bad happens under this administration.

Yep its a disturbing turn of events. And apparently their boss Obama was just fine with it.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You are correct.

Nevertheless, bucs' wording implies that this man was put in jail and charged with a crime, neither of which occurred.

So Obamas Marshals under his DOJ...lead by Lolo Lynch....are rounding up innocent people at gun point without probable cause of any crime???

The federal marshals, created as the enforcement arm of the judiciary were issued a bench warrant for the arrest of the guy in the OP by the federal judiciary....and the judge directed the marshals to arrest him.

So much for your claim that 'Obama send the marshals'. As usual, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, bucky.

For the final time.....the judge cannot DIRECT them to do shit. He can request it. He is not in their chain of command.

For a person saying I don't know what I'm talking about, you sure don't grasp chain of command or separation of powers.

Hint. Law enforcement is under the Executive Branch. Judges are under the Judicial Branch.

Police chiefs cannot give orders to a judge. And a judge cannot give orders to a law enforcement officer. Different branches. Different chains of command.

It is quite amazing to me how staggeringly wrong you are about what you claimed to do for a living.

Then explain.

I already have.

 

[Moonglow]

My gawd, you are a stupid kunt. You should read what write, not what the voices in your head are telling you what I write.

Just at this administration has credit for Bin Laden, it has credit for these arrests.

Again, shit-stain.....the President didn't send anyone to arrest this guy. The federal judiciary sent the marshals. They were enforcing a federal arrest warrant to bring the man to court. The article in the OP confirms as much. The marshals are the enforcement arm of the federal judiciary. And have been since 1789.

Even you've had to abandon the pseudo-legal horseshit of the OP, desperately backing away from the nonsense idiocy that 'Obama sent the Marshals' and retreating into "Obama could have done something'.

Try again, dipshit. This time using your brain and actually reading the article you're babbling about. Its called 'accountability'.

The Judiciary can't send them. All they can do is issue a warrant and ask for them to serve it. Judges aren't in the Marshals chain of command. Marshals are Executive Branch under DOJ. Judges are Judicial Branch.

So you now admit that its the judge that issued the warrant and directed the marshals to arrest the guy.

So much for your pseudo-legal horseshit that "Obama sent the marshals'. Even you've abandoned that nonsense.

Never said a judge didn't. Only a judge can issue warrants. A judge can issue a warrant for a person to be arrested for wearing cargo shorts if they want.

It's up to the Executive Branch to decide if they will act on the warrant. That's the balance of power against rogue judges.

And....our Federal Executive Branch decided...yes...let's round up these student loan debtors.

It is not "up to the executive branch" to decide whether to enforce a bench warrant.

But the tentacles of government reach into every aspect of operation, I heard they even require people to clean their toilets every Saturday..

 

[Moonglow]

They are being taken into custody. Otherwise....why send Marshals?
U.S. Marshals Service Sending SWAT Teams Out to Arrest People for Unpaid Student Loans

The guy in your OP was not "taken into custody", he was brought into court to respond to a bench warrent. He was not put in jail.

Ummmm...any LEO "taking" someone to court on a Bench Warrant is an arrest.

You are correct.

Nevertheless, bucs' wording implies that this man was put in jail and charged with a crime, neither of which occurred.

I don't know if the man spent any time in jail, but there cannot be an arrest without a charge of a crime. The crime in this case was a capais for failure to appear on something for which he was never served.

The problem which is MY concern (in addition to the poor "investment" choices of the government with our money on toxic assets) is the DoJ has contracted out collections on debts to private debt collectors. That's fine an annoying bunch, at best.

However, because these are federal debts, the debt collectors are now federal contractors. As such, they are not obliged to following debt collection laws - laws enacted to protect consumers. Pretty slickin a sick sort of way. And, now...folks are getting arrested for debts. Unheard of in modern times (except for dead beat dads).

This is a policy unique to this administration. Personally, I see it as a problem which needs to be addressed. Then again, I'm no doe-eyed groupie who thinks nothing ever bad happens under this administration.

Yep its a disturbing turn of events. And apparently their boss Obama was just fine with it.

So a local cops boss is the governor of the state...

 

[bucs90]

So Obamas Marshals under his DOJ...lead by Lolo Lynch....are rounding up innocent people at gun point without probable cause of any crime???

The federal marshals, created as the enforcement arm of the judiciary were issued a bench warrant for the arrest of the guy in the OP by the federal judiciary....and the judge directed the marshals to arrest him.

So much for your claim that 'Obama send the marshals'. As usual, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, bucky.

For the final time.....the judge cannot DIRECT them to do shit. He can request it. He is not in their chain of command.

For a person saying I don't know what I'm talking about, you sure don't grasp chain of command or separation of powers.

Hint. Law enforcement is under the Executive Branch. Judges are under the Judicial Branch.

Police chiefs cannot give orders to a judge. And a judge cannot give orders to a law enforcement officer. Different branches. Different chains of command.

It is quite amazing to me how staggeringly wrong you are about what you claimed to do for a living.

Then explain.

I already have.

No you havent.

Explain where in the chain of command of law enforcement....does a judge sit?