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Unsurprisingly, we have those on the partisan right attempting and failing to defend torture because it reflects poorly on a republican president.
hey RW?.....you told me this aint a partisan thing when i never said it was....and now here is the guy who said it was,saying so again....and your thanking him?....are you that afraid to criticize your little lefty buddies or are you just some kind of hypocrite or someone who just likes to talk about shit he knows nothing about?.....i would like to know.....
Is there anyone on this thread other than the partisan right defending torture?
If you can point out any liberals on this thread who defend America engaging in torture, I will gladly attack them
Please provide
Are you claiming that Republicans have always supported torture?
Have you checked with John McCain?
It seems that both parties have supported torture. But, it is an election year.
Who? Where?
It's a sad group that makes more of a fuss over being accused of torture than torture itself.
If we started burying people alive and letting them stay buried till they passed out from lack of oxygen before we revived them, would that be torture redfish?
No marks, no physical harm at all. Mental harm may be different but would that action be torture?
Just curious where the limits might be.
Not a valid analogy. No one has ever died from waterboarding, being buried alive has resulted in millions of deaths.
Now, if we want to define torture, lets look at what muslims do to those who do not kowtow to mohammed.
beheading
feet first into a wood chipper
pushed off a third floor roof
electrodes to the testicles
eyes burned out with a red hot poker
gang rape
cutting off hands, feet, ears, noses
making you stand in a water filled room and then dropping electric leads into the water
pulling off fingernails
cutting off tongues
you libtards get all spun up about waterboarding but say nothing about the methods of your muslim friends. you are lunatics.
It seems that both parties have supported torture. But, it is an election year.
Who? Where?
RW.....if you dont think this Country has tortured people before Bush then you are about as naive as some guy who just fell off the turnip truck...
defenders of torture are not patriotic americans concerned for the security of the nation. They are partisans attempting to protect their misguided positions taken in the past. They are to shallow and insecure to admit that they were mistaken and so they cling to their misguided beliefs. If that is not the reason they defend the use of torture, than it is because they are just plain stupid and to lazy to educate themselves.
Links to studies by no less authorities on the subject than the army command and staff college and the national intelligence college have been repeatedly posted in this thread that give clear conclusions that torture is ineffective in providing actionable intelligence, provides false information which leads to wasted resources and needlessly endangers personnel, aides in the recruitment of of enemy forces, etc.
Unless the defenders can supply links to studies that support their nonsense macho inspired false claims, what they are doing is foolish and dangerous for people to pay serious attention to.
Defenders of torture are not patriotic Americans concerned for the security of the nation. They are partisans attempting to protect their misguided positions taken in the past. They are to shallow and insecure to admit that they were mistaken and so they cling to their misguided beliefs. If that is not the reason they defend the use of torture, than it is because they are just plain stupid and to lazy to educate themselves.
Links to studies by no less authorities on the subject than the Army Command and Staff College and the National Intelligence College have been repeatedly posted in this thread that give clear conclusions that torture is ineffective in providing actionable intelligence, provides false information which leads to wasted resources and needlessly endangers personnel, aides in the recruitment of of enemy forces, etc.
Unless the defenders can supply links to studies that support their nonsense macho inspired false claims, what they are doing is foolish and dangerous for people to pay serious attention to.
Defenders of torture are not patriotic Americans concerned for the security of the nation. They are partisans attempting to protect their misguided positions taken in the past. They are to shallow and insecure to admit that they were mistaken and so they cling to their misguided beliefs. If that is not the reason they defend the use of torture, than it is because they are just plain stupid and to lazy to educate themselves.
Links to studies by no less authorities on the subject than the Army Command and Staff College and the National Intelligence College have been repeatedly posted in this thread that give clear conclusions that torture is ineffective in providing actionable intelligence, provides false information which leads to wasted resources and needlessly endangers personnel, aides in the recruitment of of enemy forces, etc.
Unless the defenders can supply links to studies that support their nonsense macho inspired false claims, what they are doing is foolish and dangerous for people to pay serious attention to.
The worst part of rightwing machismo is that it sets the bar for treatment of US troops who are POWs
We have established that waterboarding is now acceptable treatment of US captives
If we started burying people alive and letting them stay buried till they passed out from lack of oxygen before we revived them, would that be torture redfish?
No marks, no physical harm at all. Mental harm may be different but would that action be torture?
Just curious where the limits might be.
Not a valid analogy. No one has ever died from waterboarding, being buried alive has resulted in millions of deaths.
Now, if we want to define torture, lets look at what muslims do to those who do not kowtow to mohammed.
beheading
feet first into a wood chipper
pushed off a third floor roof
electrodes to the testicles
eyes burned out with a red hot poker
gang rape
cutting off hands, feet, ears, noses
making you stand in a water filled room and then dropping electric leads into the water
pulling off fingernails
cutting off tongues
you libtards get all spun up about waterboarding but say nothing about the methods of your muslim friends. you are lunatics.
So we set our own standard of behavior at the level of Muslim terrorists. Nobody defends what they do, but it in no way justifies sinking to their level and engaging in torture
defenders of torture are not patriotic americans concerned for the security of the nation. They are partisans attempting to protect their misguided positions taken in the past. They are to shallow and insecure to admit that they were mistaken and so they cling to their misguided beliefs. If that is not the reason they defend the use of torture, than it is because they are just plain stupid and to lazy to educate themselves.
Links to studies by no less authorities on the subject than the army command and staff college and the national intelligence college have been repeatedly posted in this thread that give clear conclusions that torture is ineffective in providing actionable intelligence, provides false information which leads to wasted resources and needlessly endangers personnel, aides in the recruitment of of enemy forces, etc.
Unless the defenders can supply links to studies that support their nonsense macho inspired false claims, what they are doing is foolish and dangerous for people to pay serious attention to.
complete bullshit attempt at deflecting from the fact that obama is the president not bush
Defenders of torture are not patriotic Americans concerned for the security of the nation. They are partisans attempting to protect their misguided positions taken in the past. They are to shallow and insecure to admit that they were mistaken and so they cling to their misguided beliefs. If that is not the reason they defend the use of torture, than it is because they are just plain stupid and to lazy to educate themselves.
Links to studies by no less authorities on the subject than the Army Command and Staff College and the National Intelligence College have been repeatedly posted in this thread that give clear conclusions that torture is ineffective in providing actionable intelligence, provides false information which leads to wasted resources and needlessly endangers personnel, aides in the recruitment of of enemy forces, etc.
Unless the defenders can supply links to studies that support their nonsense macho inspired false claims, what they are doing is foolish and dangerous for people to pay serious attention to.
The worst part of rightwing machismo is that it sets the bar for treatment of US troops who are POWs
We have established that waterboarding is now acceptable treatment of US captives
Is Bush the president? Yes or No?
The worst part of rightwing machismo is that it sets the bar for treatment of US troops who are POWs
We have established that waterboarding is now acceptable treatment of US captives
Is Bush the president? Yes or No?
Bush approved and justified torture as the POTUS. As such, our country now has no moral right to complain when our forces are subjected to torture
The worst part of rightwing machismo is that it sets the bar for treatment of US troops who are POWs
We have established that waterboarding is now acceptable treatment of US captives
Is Bush the president? Yes or No?
Bush approved and justified torture as the POTUS. As such, our country now has no moral right to complain when our forces are subjected to torture
The worst part of rightwing machismo is that it sets the bar for treatment of US troops who are POWs
We have established that waterboarding is now acceptable treatment of US captives
Is Bush the president? Yes or No?
Bush approved and justified torture as the POTUS. As such, our country now has no moral right to complain when our forces are subjected to torture
Who is the president of the US, is it Obama or Bush? This is not hard libs you can do it. Admit it, your chimp is the POTUS not Bush. Your chimp is responsible for his actions, including not prosecuting Bush's administration for it's supposed acts of torture as he promised he would.defenders of torture are not patriotic americans concerned for the security of the nation. They are partisans attempting to protect their misguided positions taken in the past. They are to shallow and insecure to admit that they were mistaken and so they cling to their misguided beliefs. If that is not the reason they defend the use of torture, than it is because they are just plain stupid and to lazy to educate themselves.
Links to studies by no less authorities on the subject than the army command and staff college and the national intelligence college have been repeatedly posted in this thread that give clear conclusions that torture is ineffective in providing actionable intelligence, provides false information which leads to wasted resources and needlessly endangers personnel, aides in the recruitment of of enemy forces, etc.
Unless the defenders can supply links to studies that support their nonsense macho inspired false claims, what they are doing is foolish and dangerous for people to pay serious attention to.
complete bullshit attempt at deflecting from the fact that obama is the president not bush
It isn't deflecting. The use of the world deflecting isn't just a talking point for you to use when you can't think of anything of an intelligent nature to say. People are defending torture in this thread and on this very page of this thread. Pointing out that academic studies conducted by military and intelligence Colleges are available for reading via links in this thread is not a deflection. It is spot on related and appropriate.
Is Bush the president? Yes or No?
Bush approved and justified torture as the POTUS. As such, our country now has no moral right to complain when our forces are subjected to torture
Who is the President, Obama or Bush? This is not hard.
