Obama throws Bush under the bus......accuses him of torture

Yes, he is

He is guilty of giving Bush a free pass on his war crimes. I doubt if Republicans would have been as generous

You wanted to take Bush and his entire family, children and parents, sit them in a formal setting, and shoot them all to death. We know Comrade, we know.
No

Actually, I wanted Bush to be held accountable for his actions. Regardless od the consequences

I also wanted to see John Yoo waterboarded

Yes, you want a Republican witch hunt. W held accountable, O, not so much...

If you have evidence of Obama authorizing torture, I want him prosecuted also

But we all know you don't

I know you don't grasp obvious points, so I'll explain it to you. I am not referring to W and O, I am referring to you. You assume W is guilty and that is unshakable by any fact. You assume O is innocent, and that is unshakable by any fact.

You and Republicans locked in the fight for the steering wheel are the problem. You only care about your party winning, and will let any number of American citizens and the military die to get it. So you want witch hunts for them and not for yourself. They want the reverse. I would be happy to go after them all if we were going to do that with critical minds and integrity. We won't. You have none, they have none. So it's better for us if we move on until zombies like you are told to shut up and sit down and we're going to do it the right way. That won't happen in your lifetime, don't worry.
No...it is not about winning

As an American, I find torture to be abhorrent. I want anyone who engages in it or authorizes it to be prosecuted, regardless of their party or political standing

Ok.. here's a "scenario" to test your resolve.

Nuclear missile has been launched. The missile is a Mirv with 10 hydrogen bombs. When the bombs go off they will kill every man woman and child along the North East Coast of the United Stated between Boston and Washington DC. We have the terrorist who knows the code to disarm the missile in flight.

You have 10 mins to get the code before the detonations. Do you A) ask him nicely to hand over the code, B) torture him until you get the code, C) Try A for 30 seconds or so then proceed to B.
Maybe we should just call James Bond or Austin Powers

Sorry....torture is never warranted

EVERYONE who tortures has some type of justification.
He deserves it
It is not torture when "I" do it
I am doing it to save lives

American soldiers have information that if it is revealed would save enemy lives. Do you think our enemies are justified to torture our soldiers if it will save some lives?
 
I know you don't grasp obvious points, so I'll explain it to you. I am not referring to W and O, I am referring to you. You assume W is guilty and that is unshakable by any fact. You assume O is innocent, and that is unshakable by any fact.

You and Republicans locked in the fight for the steering wheel are the problem. You only care about your party winning, and will let any number of American citizens and the military die to get it. So you want witch hunts for them and not for yourself. They want the reverse. I would be happy to go after them all if we were going to do that with critical minds and integrity. We won't. You have none, they have none. So it's better for us if we move on until zombies like you are told to shut up and sit down and we're going to do it the right way. That won't happen in your lifetime, don't worry.
No...it is not about winning

As an American, I find torture to be abhorrent. I want anyone who engages in it or authorizes it to be prosecuted, regardless of their party or political standing

LOL, Republicans and Democrats are almost identical, but you see one as good and the other as evil, but it's just because you care about America. You sir, are a tool, Democrats think nothing of you, and why should they? Your manhood is not in play, you are a sheep. In your native tongue ... baa.

If you engage in torture...YOU ARE EVIL

Regardless of political party or if you are the President
 
Yes, he is

He is guilty of giving Bush a free pass on his war crimes. I doubt if Republicans would have been as generous

You wanted to take Bush and his entire family, children and parents, sit them in a formal setting, and shoot them all to death. We know Comrade, we know.
No

Actually, I wanted Bush to be held accountable for his actions. Regardless od the consequences

I also wanted to see John Yoo waterboarded

Yes, you want a Republican witch hunt. W held accountable, O, not so much...

If you have evidence of Obama authorizing torture, I want him prosecuted also

But we all know you don't

I know you don't grasp obvious points, so I'll explain it to you. I am not referring to W and O, I am referring to you. You assume W is guilty and that is unshakable by any fact. You assume O is innocent, and that is unshakable by any fact.

You and Republicans locked in the fight for the steering wheel are the problem. You only care about your party winning, and will let any number of American citizens and the military die to get it. So you want witch hunts for them and not for yourself. They want the reverse. I would be happy to go after them all if we were going to do that with critical minds and integrity. We won't. You have none, they have none. So it's better for us if we move on until zombies like you are told to shut up and sit down and we're going to do it the right way. That won't happen in your lifetime, don't worry.
No...it is not about winning

As an American, I find torture to be abhorrent. I want anyone who engages in it or authorizes it to be prosecuted, regardless of their party or political standing

Ok.. here's a "scenario" to test your resolve.

Nuclear missile has been launched. The missile is a Mirv with 10 hydrogen bombs. When the bombs go off they will kill every man woman and child along the North East Coast of the United Stated between Boston and Washington DC. We have the terrorist who knows the code to disarm the missile in flight.

You have 10 mins to get the code before the detonations. Do you A) ask him nicely to hand over the code, B) torture him until you get the code, C) Try A for 30 seconds or so then proceed to B.
Maybe we should just call James Bond or Austin Powers

Sorry....torture is never warranted

EVERYONE who tortures has some type of justification.
He deserves it
It is not torture when "I" do it
I am doing it to save lives

American soldiers have information that if it is revealed would save enemy lives. Do you think our enemies are justified to torture our soldiers if it will save some lives?

So your answer is A, ask nicely, no matter what the circumstances you would never lift a finger against a prisoner, not even to save the lives of every man woman and child on the planet.

As to your scenario... "American soldiers have information that if it is revealed would save enemy lives. Do you think our enemies are justified to torture our soldiers if it will save some lives?"

Yes, there is justification in hurting your enemy, war is war, it is barbarous. To pretend otherwise, is silly.
 
Yes, he is

He is guilty of giving Bush a free pass on his war crimes. I doubt if Republicans would have been as generous

You wanted to take Bush and his entire family, children and parents, sit them in a formal setting, and shoot them all to death. We know Comrade, we know.
No

Actually, I wanted Bush to be held accountable for his actions. Regardless od the consequences

I also wanted to see John Yoo waterboarded

Yes, you want a Republican witch hunt. W held accountable, O, not so much...

If you have evidence of Obama authorizing torture, I want him prosecuted also

But we all know you don't

I know you don't grasp obvious points, so I'll explain it to you. I am not referring to W and O, I am referring to you. You assume W is guilty and that is unshakable by any fact. You assume O is innocent, and that is unshakable by any fact.

You and Republicans locked in the fight for the steering wheel are the problem. You only care about your party winning, and will let any number of American citizens and the military die to get it. So you want witch hunts for them and not for yourself. They want the reverse. I would be happy to go after them all if we were going to do that with critical minds and integrity. We won't. You have none, they have none. So it's better for us if we move on until zombies like you are told to shut up and sit down and we're going to do it the right way. That won't happen in your lifetime, don't worry.
No...it is not about winning

As an American, I find torture to be abhorrent. I want anyone who engages in it or authorizes it to be prosecuted, regardless of their party or political standing

Ok.. here's a "scenario" to test your resolve.

Nuclear missile has been launched. The missile is a Mirv with 10 hydrogen bombs. When the bombs go off they will kill every man woman and child along the North East Coast of the United Stated between Boston and Washington DC. We have the terrorist who knows the code to disarm the missile in flight.

You have 10 mins to get the code before the detonations. Do you A) ask him nicely to hand over the code, B) torture him until you get the code, C) Try A for 30 seconds or so then proceed to B.
Maybe we should just call James Bond or Austin Powers

Sorry....torture is never warranted

EVERYONE who tortures has some type of justification.
He deserves it
It is not torture when "I" do it
I am doing it to save lives

American soldiers have information that if it is revealed would save enemy lives. Do you think our enemies are justified to torture our soldiers if it will save some lives?

So your answer is A, ask nicely, no matter what the circumstances you would never lift a finger against a prisoner, not even to save the lives of every man woman and child on the planet.

As to your scenario... "American soldiers have information that if it is revealed would save enemy lives. Do you think our enemies are justified to torture our soldiers if it will save some lives?"

Yes, there is justification in hurting your enemy, war is war, it is barbarous. To pretend otherwise, is silly.

So now we know where you stand

You support the torture of US soldiers as long as we get to do it too
 
Actually, I wanted Bush to be held accountable for his actions. Regardless od the consequences

I also wanted to see John Yoo waterboarded

You want to do anything that would damage the hated opposition, I understand...

But really, don't you dream of being Vlad Lenin and having the Romanovs at your mercy, so you could kill their children in front of them, then kill them?

Come on Comrade, it drips from your every post.
 
Yes, he is

He is guilty of giving Bush a free pass on his war crimes. I doubt if Republicans would have been as generous

You wanted to take Bush and his entire family, children and parents, sit them in a formal setting, and shoot them all to death. We know Comrade, we know.
No

Actually, I wanted Bush to be held accountable for his actions. Regardless od the consequences

I also wanted to see John Yoo waterboarded

Yes, you want a Republican witch hunt. W held accountable, O, not so much...

If you have evidence of Obama authorizing torture, I want him prosecuted also

But we all know you don't

I know you don't grasp obvious points, so I'll explain it to you. I am not referring to W and O, I am referring to you. You assume W is guilty and that is unshakable by any fact. You assume O is innocent, and that is unshakable by any fact.

You and Republicans locked in the fight for the steering wheel are the problem. You only care about your party winning, and will let any number of American citizens and the military die to get it. So you want witch hunts for them and not for yourself. They want the reverse. I would be happy to go after them all if we were going to do that with critical minds and integrity. We won't. You have none, they have none. So it's better for us if we move on until zombies like you are told to shut up and sit down and we're going to do it the right way. That won't happen in your lifetime, don't worry.
No...it is not about winning

As an American, I find torture to be abhorrent. I want anyone who engages in it or authorizes it to be prosecuted, regardless of their party or political standing

Ok.. here's a "scenario" to test your resolve.

Nuclear missile has been launched. The missile is a Mirv with 10 hydrogen bombs. When the bombs go off they will kill every man woman and child along the North East Coast of the United Stated between Boston and Washington DC. We have the terrorist who knows the code to disarm the missile in flight.

You have 10 mins to get the code before the detonations. Do you A) ask him nicely to hand over the code, B) torture him until you get the code, C) Try A for 30 seconds or so then proceed to B.
Maybe we should just call James Bond or Austin Powers

Sorry....torture is never warranted

EVERYONE who tortures has some type of justification.
He deserves it
It is not torture when "I" do it
I am doing it to save lives

American soldiers have information that if it is revealed would save enemy lives. Do you think our enemies are justified to torture our soldiers if it will save some lives?

So your answer is A, ask nicely, no matter what the circumstances you would never lift a finger against a prisoner, not even to save the lives of every man woman and child on the planet.

As to your scenario... "American soldiers have information that if it is revealed would save enemy lives. Do you think our enemies are justified to torture our soldiers if it will save some lives?"

Yes, there is justification in hurting your enemy, war is war, it is barbarous. To pretend otherwise, is silly.

So now we know where you stand

You support the torture of US soldiers as long as we get to do it too

You're just a LYING POS. I said nothing of the kind.
 
If you have evidence of Obama authorizing torture, I want him prosecuted also

But we all know you don't

I have evidence (proof really) of Obama engaging in extortion and using the DOJ to conduct criminal acts. You want him prosecuted Comrade?

Didn't think so - some are far more equal than others...
 
Yes, he is

He is guilty of giving Bush a free pass on his war crimes. I doubt if Republicans would have been as generous

You wanted to take Bush and his entire family, children and parents, sit them in a formal setting, and shoot them all to death. We know Comrade, we know.
No

Actually, I wanted Bush to be held accountable for his actions. Regardless od the consequences

I also wanted to see John Yoo waterboarded

Yes, you want a Republican witch hunt. W held accountable, O, not so much...

If you have evidence of Obama authorizing torture, I want him prosecuted also

But we all know you don't

I know you don't grasp obvious points, so I'll explain it to you. I am not referring to W and O, I am referring to you. You assume W is guilty and that is unshakable by any fact. You assume O is innocent, and that is unshakable by any fact.

You and Republicans locked in the fight for the steering wheel are the problem. You only care about your party winning, and will let any number of American citizens and the military die to get it. So you want witch hunts for them and not for yourself. They want the reverse. I would be happy to go after them all if we were going to do that with critical minds and integrity. We won't. You have none, they have none. So it's better for us if we move on until zombies like you are told to shut up and sit down and we're going to do it the right way. That won't happen in your lifetime, don't worry.
No...it is not about winning

As an American, I find torture to be abhorrent. I want anyone who engages in it or authorizes it to be prosecuted, regardless of their party or political standing

Ok.. here's a "scenario" to test your resolve.

Nuclear missile has been launched. The missile is a Mirv with 10 hydrogen bombs. When the bombs go off they will kill every man woman and child along the North East Coast of the United Stated between Boston and Washington DC. We have the terrorist who knows the code to disarm the missile in flight.

You have 10 mins to get the code before the detonations. Do you A) ask him nicely to hand over the code, B) torture him until you get the code, C) Try A for 30 seconds or so then proceed to B.
Maybe we should just call James Bond or Austin Powers

Sorry....torture is never warranted

EVERYONE who tortures has some type of justification.
He deserves it
It is not torture when "I" do it
I am doing it to save lives

American soldiers have information that if it is revealed would save enemy lives. Do you think our enemies are justified to torture our soldiers if it will save some lives?

So your answer is A, ask nicely, no matter what the circumstances you would never lift a finger against a prisoner, not even to save the lives of every man woman and child on the planet.

As to your scenario... "American soldiers have information that if it is revealed would save enemy lives. Do you think our enemies are justified to torture our soldiers if it will save some lives?"

Yes, there is justification in hurting your enemy, war is war, it is barbarous. To pretend otherwise, is silly.

So now we know where you stand

You support the torture of US soldiers as long as we get to do it too

You're just a LYING POS. I said nothing of the kind.

A quote of what you said...

Do you think our enemies are justified to torture our soldiers if it will save some lives?"

Yes, there is justification in hurting your enemy, war is war, it is barbarous. To pretend otherwise, is silly
 
If you have evidence of Obama authorizing torture, I want him prosecuted also

But we all know you don't

I have evidence (proof really) of Obama engaging in extortion and using the DOJ to conduct criminal acts. You want him prosecuted Comrade?

Didn't think so - some are far more equal than others...

Go for it
 
A quote of what you said...

Do you think our enemies are justified to torture our soldiers if it will save some lives?"

Yes, there is justification in hurting your enemy, war is war, it is barbarous. To pretend otherwise, is silly

Correct. Please recognize the difference between the term "justification" and the term "support."
 
Go for it

But expect an audit and perhaps a raid by Shock Collar Holder, eh Comrade? Or perhaps Obama will send auditors to my bank and tell them that unless they call my mortgage, he will subpoena records every week until they go out of business? After all, that's how this crook does things..
 
Go for it

But expect an audit and perhaps a raid by Shock Collar Holder, eh Comrade? Or perhaps Obama will send auditors to my bank and tell them that unless they call my mortgage, he will subpoena records every week until they go out of business? After all, that's how this crook does things..

Good god!

Can this guy be any more of a nutcase?
 
Good god!

Can this guy be any more of a nutcase?

Are you fucking stupid, or just such a dishonest hack that you think you can shrug this off?

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The Justice Department already has served more than 50 subpoenas on banks, essentially threatening them with lengthy and expensive regulatory scrutiny if they don’t drop these “high-risk” clients.

According to the Daily Caller, one Justice official told a banker who provided services to a payday loan company, “I don’t like this product, and I don’t believe it should have a place in our financial system. And if you don’t agree, there will be an immediate, unplanned audit of your entire bank.”}

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It's extortion, moron. Obama is a criminal.
 
Regardless of political party or if you are the President

Hey RW, I have a paradox for you. A Democrat said he lied.

It must be true, because a Democrat said it, and they never lie. But it can't be true because then a Democrat would have lied. You can go back and forth on that all day. Is that a mind fuck, or what?
 
Yes, you want a Republican witch hunt. W held accountable, O, not so much...

I want the president who lied that he had intelligence on March 17 that left no doubt that Iraq was hiding WMD from UN inspectors at that time to be held accountable.

Obama has not lied, let alone lied to start a ground war where thousands of US troops would die and be wounded for nothing.
 
Regardless of political party or if you are the President

Hey RW, I have a paradox for you. A Democrat said he lied.

It must be true, because a Democrat said it, and they never lie. But it can't be true because then a Democrat would have lied. You can go back and forth on that all day. Is that a mind fuck, or what?

I have a paradox for you.....

Should someone be exempt from war crimes prosecution just because they are the President of the United States?
 
Yes, you want a Republican witch hunt. W held accountable, O, not so much...

I want the president who lied that he had intelligence on March 17 that left no doubt that Iraq was hiding WMD from UN inspectors at that time to be held accountable.

Obama has not lied, let alone lied to start a ground war where thousands of US troops would die and be wounded for nothing.

LOL, you look at tweedle dum and tweedle dee and see Hitler and Mother Theresa. You are a stooge. You weren't fooled by W. You are fooled by O...
 
Regardless of political party or if you are the President

Hey RW, I have a paradox for you. A Democrat said he lied.

It must be true, because a Democrat said it, and they never lie. But it can't be true because then a Democrat would have lied. You can go back and forth on that all day. Is that a mind fuck, or what?

I have a paradox for you.....

Should someone be exempt from war crimes prosecution just because they are the President of the United States?

Are they a Republican or a Democrat? I ask because if they are a Democrat, nothing they did no matter what it was would be a war crime and therefore it's a trick question. If it's a Republican, than going to the bathroom during a war was a crime and they are guilty.

So really, just phrase the question, are they a Republican and there's your answer.

Tweedle dum and tweedle dee, Hitler and Mother Theresa, and you really believe it. LOL, what an empty shell of a human being you are.
 
I have a paradox for you.....

Should someone be exempt from war crimes prosecution just because they are the President of the United States?

Yes Comrade.

IF we did not have the Constitution, you democrats would have nothing to fight against.

But as long as we do, your dreams of an international body arresting and executing the hated enemies of the party will simply not happen.

Now run along and jerk off to your poster of Pol Pot.
 
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