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Thanks for proving my point. There is no correlation between minimum wage and UE.
I didn't so no correlation. I said it depends. Sometimes there is, sometimes there isn't.
It's immoral to pay people crap wages for their labor. That's the only truth that really matters.
That is simply, factually false. What is immoral is to hold someone else responsible for providing for your neccessities, which is essentially what you are saying. What is immoral is paying to people who do the same job different salaries, which is what would result from your position.
Oh, so your position is that everyone in low paying jobs is there voluntarily because they prefer to be poor?
lol, you're retarded.
why would they be there "voluntarily" if they have the chops to get a better job....?
That's your position not mine.
Conservatives want a country filled with haves and have-nots and no one in between. We get it.
The state of Washington has a minimum wage of $9.19 and an unemployment rate of 7.6%, below the national average.
According to some of the arguments in this thread, WA should have the highest UE in the country.
Obviously those arguments are without merit.
all the studies show small raises in the minimum wage to not adversely effect unemployment
No they do not.
Raising the Minimum Wage Leads to Higher Unemployment: Amity Shlaes | Daily Ticker - Yahoo! Finance
lol. I love it when some nut posts a link with a title that says one thing, and then,
when you actually read the link, you get something like this:
"In terms of government mandating some of that corporate cash be spent on paying workers a higher minimum wage, the modern research on how that impacts employment is mixed."
Not necessarily. The better alternative is McDonald's stock will fall a point or two.Well I guess the fries at McDonald's will be $7.00 if the minimum wage increases
There are too many super-rich in America and all of them are much too rich. And that is the problem with our economy.
Labor is getting less and less a portion of what it produces in this country. More and more going to corporate profit.
That's as clear a representation of the redistribution of wealth in this country as you'll ever see.
To be clear sliding a product across a pricing scanner or dunking fries in grease are not really labor in my eyes as much as they are menial tasks that even a mildly retarded person could do.
The jobs pay what they are worth. Most minimum wage jobs do. If you're in your mid 20's and flipping burgers you got much bivger problems than minimum wage.
Thanks for proving my point. There is no correlation between minimum wage and UE.
I didn't so no correlation. I said it depends. Sometimes there is, sometimes there isn't.
It's immoral to pay people crap wages for their labor. That's the only truth that really matters.
That is simply, factually false. What is immoral is to hold someone else responsible for providing for your neccessities, which is essentially what you are saying. What is immoral is paying to people who do the same job different salaries, which is what would result from your position.
So an American working an assembly line here should make the same as a Chinese worker in a comparable job?
A doctor in the US should make the same as doctor in India?
A sergeant in the US military should make the same as a sergeant in the Russian military?
Labor is getting less and less a portion of what it produces in this country. More and more going to corporate profit.
That's as clear a representation of the redistribution of wealth in this country as you'll ever see.
To be clear sliding a product across a pricing scanner or dunking fries in grease are not really labor in my eyes as much as they are menial tasks that even a mildly retarded person could do.
The jobs pay what they are worth. Most minimum wage jobs do. If you're in your mid 20's and flipping burgers you got much bivger problems than minimum wage.
So what's fair price for assembling I-phones, or the related mfg jobs? The Chinese get less than a dollar an hour.
Is that what a job like that is worth? Shouldn't, therefore, any American doing comparable work also be paid $.50 an hour?
Well I guess the fries at McDonald's will be $7.00 if the minimum wage increases
They are not worth whatever the going rate is now.
The fries has always been the main attraction of McDonald's
"I can't speak for everyone, I can only speak for me.
Paying pittance is lots of fun, even if its still slavery. "
A job pays what the market demands.
My neighbor's son is 21 and graduated with an IT degree. He started at 48K a year.
Something about not majoring in Greek mythology which is not in demand in the business place.
Friend of my oldest son went to HVAC vocational school for 18 months and got his certificate. His first year he made $12 a hour for the first 6 months and then $15 a hour.
After he was there for 18 months they put him as a trainee for service calls at $16 a hour. Within 6 months they had him making the service calls. His pay?
1/2, ONE HALF of what he billed out in labor. Most days he makes $200+
24 year old kid making 60K a year doing HVAC.
Ditto for plumbers, auto mechanics and the hundreds of thousands of other skilled jobs that are unfilled in America.
Why?
Because Americans are fucking lazy and want a "living wage" for saying "do you want fries with that" 8 hours a day.
the key to both boys success is that they worked on their education and skills....and they got jobs that pay well because there is a DEMAND in the market for those skills....
today there are tons of people with the simple skills to ask "do you want fries with that?".....so employers need to pay less in order to keep their prices down to be competitive in that market....
stupid liberals would be smart to stop listening to BO and the Dimwits who are not helping them by allowing all those illegal unskilled workers to cross our borders......unskilled illegals flood the unskilled market jobs......closing the borders would mean there would be less competition and thus more DEMAND for unskilled jobs and so their wages would increase.....
To be clear sliding a product across a pricing scanner or dunking fries in grease are not really labor in my eyes as much as they are menial tasks that even a mildly retarded person could do.
The jobs pay what they are worth. Most minimum wage jobs do. If you're in your mid 20's and flipping burgers you got much bivger problems than minimum wage.
So what's fair price for assembling I-phones, or the related mfg jobs? The Chinese get less than a dollar an hour.
Is that what a job like that is worth? Shouldn't, therefore, any American doing comparable work also be paid $.50 an hour?
If you don't like what Apple pays their workers stop buying their products. If everyone would do that it put all those workers out of work, but you can feel good about the fact that you are not contributing to thee low wages.
Econ 101 should be mandatory in middle school-high school.
So an American working an assembly line here should make the same as a Chinese worker in a comparable job?
A doctor in the US should make the same as doctor in India?
A sergeant in the US military should make the same as a sergeant in the Russian military?
So what's fair price for assembling I-phones, or the related mfg jobs? The Chinese get less than a dollar an hour.
Is that what a job like that is worth? Shouldn't, therefore, any American doing comparable work also be paid $.50 an hour?
If you don't like what Apple pays their workers stop buying their products. If everyone would do that it put all those workers out of work, but you can feel good about the fact that you are not contributing to thee low wages.
To my knowledge Apple doesn't build any of their phones here. Apple sucks anyway.
Labor unions and regulations drove manufacturing jobs away.
If you don't like what Apple pays their workers stop buying their products. If everyone would do that it put all those workers out of work, but you can feel good about the fact that you are not contributing to thee low wages.
To my knowledge Apple doesn't build any of their phones here. Apple sucks anyway.
Labor unions and regulations drove manufacturing jobs away.
Apple stock is very high now.
They have a plant in California and are bringing more jobs back to the US.
I missed a few pages. Did Gramps ever come clean?
Have you no desire to admit that you have never....not even once.....made a hiring decision that was influenced by the minimum wage rate in your state?
