Obamacare exposes Republican hypocrisy on health care

[CrusaderFrank]

i know i had said this...the bronze plan has 11 k deductible...the average bankruptcy for medical bills is 11 k....

Put in perspective of a typical cost for major surgery, 11 k is a deal!

"CHICAGO - What do hospitals charge to remove an appendix? The startling answer is that it could be the same as the price of a refrigerator - or a house.

"It's a common, straightforward operation, so you might expect charges to be similar no matter where the surgery takes place. Yet a California study found huge disparities in patients' bills - $1,500 to $180,000, with an average of $33,000."

Study: Appendix surgery costs differ around U.S. - CBS News

$11K annual deductible is a deal !! --- LOLOL!!

LOLOL

That's hysterical!

 

[idb]

We have yet to see any republican plans put forth, The ACA will have some problems , but overall it is a start. All we see from the republicans are what they are against never what they are for. Sitting in the cheap seat and snipping is not governing or leadership.

Remember pre 2010 election? The republicans said if they were elected and control the house their first order of business what putting forth a jobs bill, in reality their first order of business had to do with abortion , then trying to defund the ACA. See a pattern here?

i think this entire pattern goes beyond issues and at the core are a lot of bitterness on some segments of the population who see their privilege circling the drain and will lash out at any thing

That's because the ACA is the Republicans plan...they just object to it because of who's name is on it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We have yet to see any republican plans put forth, The ACA will have some problems , but overall it is a start. All we see from the republicans are what they are against never what they are for. Sitting in the cheap seat and snipping is not governing or leadership.

Remember pre 2010 election? The republicans said if they were elected and control the house their first order of business what putting forth a jobs bill, in reality their first order of business had to do with abortion , then trying to defund the ACA. See a pattern here?

i think this entire pattern goes beyond issues and at the core are a lot of bitterness on some segments of the population who see their privilege circling the drain and will lash out at any thing

You own it. You passed it. It your idea. Don;t come crying to us because it sucks

 

[CrusaderFrank]

i know i had said this...the bronze plan has 11 k deductible...the average bankruptcy for medical bills is 11 k....

details, details

 

[Stephanie]

We have a Democrat lawmaker caught gun running, Reid is caught giving campaign funds for his daughter to run her jewelry business, chaos all around the world, and this is all the left can whine about...

small minded whiners

let get this thing repealed folks...give them something to REALLY WHINE ABOUT

 

[idb]

The simple fact is, as you know, and try to hide behind, is that anything presented by the House Republican's is automatically dead from the communist, subversive, corrupt to the bone ,Senate Majority leader "Dirty: Harry Reid refusing to even bring anything before the Senate that the House sends him. Can you deny it, without us putting out Youtubes where he states as much?

They have no difficulty in passing Over 50 repeal bills, yet have not passed a single bill to make Obamacare better.

If they are serious, run on Republican healthcare in 2014. But we all know they are not serious because they cannot come up with a better alternative

Well who wrote the bill? Democrats. Who Passed the bill? Democrats. Then who's responsible for FIXING it? DEMOCRATS.

Do you actually believe for one second that Obama would let a Republican get near his legacy bill to FIX it?---- They were even blocked from attending committee hearings on it.

They were even blocked from attending committee hearings on it.

I'd love some links for this.

 

[Vigilante]

They have no difficulty in passing Over 50 repeal bills, yet have not passed a single bill to make Obamacare better.

If they are serious, run on Republican healthcare in 2014. But we all know they are not serious because they cannot come up with a better alternative

Well who wrote the bill? Democrats. Who Passed the bill? Democrats. Then who's responsible for FIXING it? DEMOCRATS.

Do you actually believe for one second that Obama would let a Republican get near his legacy bill to FIX it?---- They were even blocked from attending committee hearings on it.

They were even blocked from attending committee hearings on it.

I'd love some links for this.

Now why the fuck would Nancy Pelosi say



If Republican's had actually had any input at all? You don't remember they only had the bill in their position, all 2700+ pages for 2 days before they had to vote on it!

 

[Wry Catcher]

We have yet to see any republican plans put forth, The ACA will have some problems , but overall it is a start. All we see from the republicans are what they are against never what they are for. Sitting in the cheap seat and snipping is not governing or leadership.

Remember pre 2010 election? The republicans said if they were elected and control the house their first order of business what putting forth a jobs bill, in reality their first order of business had to do with abortion , then trying to defund the ACA. See a pattern here?

i think this entire pattern goes beyond issues and at the core are a lot of bitterness on some segments of the population who see their privilege circling the drain and will lash out at any thing

It's a start to controlling our very lives! What's more important than your health, and now the Gov't is in control of it, taxing it, and making huge profits for the DNC off health Insurance providers donations! Not just a little QUID PRO QUO!!!!

How do you feel about this:

Study: Appendix surgery costs differ around U.S. - CBS News

Is the PPACA "government interference", and an example of Socialism? Do you believe the private sector is always better in every way then "government interference"?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Well who wrote the bill? Democrats. Who Passed the bill? Democrats. Then who's responsible for FIXING it? DEMOCRATS.

Do you actually believe for one second that Obama would let a Republican get near his legacy bill to FIX it?---- They were even blocked from attending committee hearings on it.

They were even blocked from attending committee hearings on it.

I'd love some links for this.

Now why the fuck would Nancy Pelosi say



If Republican's had actually had any input at all? You don't remember they only had the bill in their position, all 2700+ pages for 2 days before they had to vote on it!

Taking a phrase out of context and making it the foundation of an argument is usually dishonest, and the product of demagogues and charlatans.

 

[Vigilante]

We have yet to see any republican plans put forth, The ACA will have some problems , but overall it is a start. All we see from the republicans are what they are against never what they are for. Sitting in the cheap seat and snipping is not governing or leadership.

Remember pre 2010 election? The republicans said if they were elected and control the house their first order of business what putting forth a jobs bill, in reality their first order of business had to do with abortion , then trying to defund the ACA. See a pattern here?

i think this entire pattern goes beyond issues and at the core are a lot of bitterness on some segments of the population who see their privilege circling the drain and will lash out at any thing

It's a start to controlling our very lives! What's more important than your health, and now the Gov't is in control of it, taxing it, and making huge profits for the DNC off health Insurance providers donations! Not just a little QUID PRO QUO!!!!

How do you feel about this:

Study: Appendix surgery costs differ around U.S. - CBS News

Is the PPACA "government interference", and an example of Socialism? Do you believe the private sector is always better in every way then "government interference"?

Excuse me, but WHO are you going to get to do the surgery, when the payment from the gov't doesn't cover anywhere near the cost of the operation? Go to Bumfuck, Iowa, from Philadelphia, because out there the prices of EVERYTHING are much cheaper?

 

[Wry Catcher]

https://www.govtrack.us/blog/2010/03/24/who-writes-our-law/

 

[Wry Catcher]

It's a start to controlling our very lives! What's more important than your health, and now the Gov't is in control of it, taxing it, and making huge profits for the DNC off health Insurance providers donations! Not just a little QUID PRO QUO!!!!

How do you feel about this:

Study: Appendix surgery costs differ around U.S. - CBS News

Is the PPACA "government interference", and an example of Socialism? Do you believe the private sector is always better in every way then "government interference"?

Excuse me, but WHO are you going to get to do the surgery, when the payment from the gov't doesn't cover anywhere near the cost of the operation? Go to Bumfuck, Iowa, from Philadelphia, because out there the prices of EVERYTHING are much cheaper?

That's a very ignorant remark, and I was correct - you're an arrogant asshole.

 

[idb]

Well who wrote the bill? Democrats. Who Passed the bill? Democrats. Then who's responsible for FIXING it? DEMOCRATS.

Do you actually believe for one second that Obama would let a Republican get near his legacy bill to FIX it?---- They were even blocked from attending committee hearings on it.

They were even blocked from attending committee hearings on it.

I'd love some links for this.

Now why the fuck would Nancy Pelosi say



If Republican's had actually had any input at all? You don't remember they only had the bill in their position, all 2700+ pages for 2 days before they had to vote on it!

Well, my understanding was that she was urging the Senate to put forward and vote on a bill so that it could be properly debated against the House bill.

 

[Vigilante]

I'd love some links for this.

Now why the fuck would Nancy Pelosi say



If Republican's had actually had any input at all? You don't remember they only had the bill in their position, all 2700+ pages for 2 days before they had to vote on it!

Taking a phrase out of context and making it the foundation of an argument is usually dishonest, and the product of demagogues and charlatans.

Did she NOT say that about ObamaCare?

here, try this link to find out ALL Republicans rejected the bill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

 

[Vigilante]

I'd love some links for this.

Now why the fuck would Nancy Pelosi say



If Republican's had actually had any input at all? You don't remember they only had the bill in their position, all 2700+ pages for 2 days before they had to vote on it!

Well, my understanding was that she was urging the Senate to put forward and vote on a bill so that it could be properly debated against the House bill.

Got a link to that?

 

[MeBelle]

i know i had said this...the bronze plan has 11 k deductible...the average bankruptcy for medical bills is 11 k....

Put in perspective of a typical cost for major surgery, 11 k is a deal!

"CHICAGO - What do hospitals charge to remove an appendix? The startling answer is that it could be the same as the price of a refrigerator - or a house.

"It's a common, straightforward operation, so you might expect charges to be similar no matter where the surgery takes place. Yet a California study found huge disparities in patients' bills - $1,500 to $180,000, with an average of $33,000."

Study: Appendix surgery costs differ around U.S. - CBS News

Link to the study?

 

[driveby]

We have yet to see any republican plans put forth, The ACA will have some problems , but overall it is a start. All we see from the republicans are what they are against never what they are for. Sitting in the cheap seat and snipping is not governing or leadership.

Remember pre 2010 election? The republicans said if they were elected and control the house their first order of business what putting forth a jobs bill, in reality their first order of business had to do with abortion , then trying to defund the ACA. See a pattern here?

i think this entire pattern goes beyond issues and at the core are a lot of bitterness on some segments of the population who see their privilege circling the drain and will lash out at any thing

Check Harry Reid's desk numbnuts.....

 

[rightwinger]

The simple fact is, as you know, and try to hide behind, is that anything presented by the House Republican's is automatically dead from the communist, subversive, corrupt to the bone ,Senate Majority leader "Dirty: Harry Reid refusing to even bring anything before the Senate that the House sends him. Can you deny it, without us putting out Youtubes where he states as much?

They have no difficulty in passing Over 50 repeal bills, yet have not passed a single bill to make Obamacare better.

If they are serious, run on Republican healthcare in 2014. But we all know they are not serious because they cannot come up with a better alternative

Well who wrote the bill? Democrats. Who Passed the bill? Democrats. Then who's responsible for FIXING it? DEMOCRATS.

Do you actually believe for one second that Obama would let a Republican get near his legacy bill to FIX it?---- They were even blocked from attending committee hearings on it.

Democrats saw a massive crisis in our healthcare and passed a bill to fill the void of affordable healthcare

Republicans were encouraged to participate in the process and preferred to delay, obfuscate and fear monger

In spite of their whining...we are still asking Republicans

What would you do better?

 

[MeBelle]

Taking a phrase out of context and making it the foundation of an argument is usually dishonest, and the product of demagogues and charlatans.

Here ya go! Links and facts!!!

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But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy. Furthermore, we believe that health care reform, again I said at the beginning of my remarks, that we sent the three pillars that the President's economic stabilization and job creation initiatives were education and innovation -- innovation begins in the classroom -- clean energy and climate, addressing the climate issues in an innovative way to keep us number one and competitive in the world with the new technology, and the third, first among equals I may say, is health care, health insurance reform. Health insurance reform is about jobs. This legislation alone will create 4 million jobs, about 400,000 jobs very soon.



Pelosi Remarks at the 2010 Legislative Conference for National Association of Counties -- WASHINGTON, March 9 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --

 

[Vigilante]

They have no difficulty in passing Over 50 repeal bills, yet have not passed a single bill to make Obamacare better.

If they are serious, run on Republican healthcare in 2014. But we all know they are not serious because they cannot come up with a better alternative

Well who wrote the bill? Democrats. Who Passed the bill? Democrats. Then who's responsible for FIXING it? DEMOCRATS.

Do you actually believe for one second that Obama would let a Republican get near his legacy bill to FIX it?---- They were even blocked from attending committee hearings on it.

Democrats saw a massive crisis in our healthcare and passed a bill to fill the void of affordable healthcare

Republicans were encouraged to participate in the process and preferred to delay, obfuscate and fear monger

In spite of their whining...we are still asking Republicans

What would you do better?

I see you still can't read! All sorts of Republican proposals are out there!