Obama’s Cash Payment to Iran Was More Than a Ransom — It Broke Criminal Law

[Soggy in NOLA]

How much money did Reagan give to Iran?

He sold them 1,500 missiles, in direct violation of the arms embargo law.

You do mean Israel broker a deal for the missiles and Iran PAID for the missiles. Getting money from Iran is a lot different than giving them money.

It violated the law, period.

AND AGAIN, THE MONEY GIVEN TO IRAN WAS THEIR OWN MONEY.

Then why'd Barry pay em in foreign currency?

The Iranians are against US currency as a reserve currency. They prefer the Euro.

All caught up now?

It is against U.S. law to conduct direct business with Iran in U.S. $$.

This commitment was reaffirmed by Obama’s Treasury Department on January 16, 2016, the “Implementation Day” of the JCPOA. Treasury’s published guidance regarding Iran states that, in general, “the clearing of U.S. dollar- or other currency-denominated transactions through the U.S. financial system or involving a U.S. person remain prohibited[.]”

Read more at: President Obama Violated the Law with His Ransom Payment to Iran

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. “The Pentagon handled arms purchases from foreign countries,” says Gary Sick, a former National Security Council official who served as the principal White House aide for Iran during the Iranian Revolution and the hostage crisis. “Defense took care of the details. So the $400 million scheduled purchase was a government-to-government transaction. The U.S. government was holding the money. That’s why it was so difficult to resolve.”

5 Things You Need to Know About the $400 Million America Sent to Iran



So please explain how you can pay ransom to someone using their own money, retards.

Google "fungible" then let us know how you know that was Iran's money.

 

[g5000]

Then why'd Barry pay em in foreign currency?

Here you go:

“But Congress banned dollar transfers to Iran, so the government had to find another way. So they bought foreign currency, and transferred it in cash.”

5 Things You Need to Know About the $400 Million America Sent to Iran


All caught up now?

 

[g5000]

The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. “The Pentagon handled arms purchases from foreign countries,” says Gary Sick, a former National Security Council official who served as the principal White House aide for Iran during the Iranian Revolution and the hostage crisis. “Defense took care of the details. So the $400 million scheduled purchase was a government-to-government transaction. The U.S. government was holding the money. That’s why it was so difficult to resolve.”

5 Things You Need to Know About the $400 Million America Sent to Iran



So please explain how you can pay ransom to someone using their own money, retards.

Google "fungible" then let us know how you know that was Iran's money.

I know what fungible means. You clearly don't.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. “The Pentagon handled arms purchases from foreign countries,” says Gary Sick, a former National Security Council official who served as the principal White House aide for Iran during the Iranian Revolution and the hostage crisis. “Defense took care of the details. So the $400 million scheduled purchase was a government-to-government transaction. The U.S. government was holding the money. That’s why it was so difficult to resolve.”

5 Things You Need to Know About the $400 Million America Sent to Iran



So please explain how you can pay ransom to someone using their own money, retards.

Google "fungible" then let us know how you know that was Iran's money.

I know what fungible means. You clearly don't.

I clearly do.

 

[Siete]

The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. “The Pentagon handled arms purchases from foreign countries,” says Gary Sick, a former National Security Council official who served as the principal White House aide for Iran during the Iranian Revolution and the hostage crisis. “Defense took care of the details. So the $400 million scheduled purchase was a government-to-government transaction. The U.S. government was holding the money. That’s why it was so difficult to resolve.”

5 Things You Need to Know About the $400 Million America Sent to Iran



So please explain how you can pay ransom to someone using their own money, retards.

Google "fungible" then let us know how you know that was Iran's money.

I know what fungible means. You clearly don't.

see what I mean ?

NEVER IN THIS FUCKING CENTURY !!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. “The Pentagon handled arms purchases from foreign countries,” says Gary Sick, a former National Security Council official who served as the principal White House aide for Iran during the Iranian Revolution and the hostage crisis. “Defense took care of the details. So the $400 million scheduled purchase was a government-to-government transaction. The U.S. government was holding the money. That’s why it was so difficult to resolve.”

5 Things You Need to Know About the $400 Million America Sent to Iran



So please explain how you can pay ransom to someone using their own money, retards.

Google "fungible" then let us know how you know that was Iran's money.

I know what fungible means. You clearly don't.

How much does the Hillary campaign pay you?

 

[g5000]

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money.

Looks like the tards are stumped. Their propaganda ministers invented the "ransom" and the bumper sticker intellects just blindly parroted the manufactured bullshit because of the ignorance upon which their propagandists heavily depend.

We owed Iran a $400 million refund for military weapons which they purchased and paid for which we never delivered.

They have received the refund.

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money, tards!

 

[g5000]

Now, let's talk "fungible" for the tard who thought he was clever.

We owe Iran $400 million. We could pay them back their refund in dollars or euros or oil or diamonds.

THAT is what fungible means, you stupid fuck!

 

[ogibillm]

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money.

Looks like the tards are stumped. Their propaganda ministers invented the "ransom" and the bumper sticker intellects just blindly parroted the manufactured bullshit because of the ignorance upon which their propagandists heavily depend.

We owed Iran a $400 million refund for military weapons which they purchased and paid for which we never delivered.

They have received the refund.

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money, tards!

well we actually owed them more than that - and frankly we got a good deal.

we took their $400 million and just parked it when at the minimum it should have been put into federal bonds. so we actually did very well on the deal

 

[Siete]

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money.

Looks like the tards are stumped. Their propaganda ministers invented the "ransom" and the bumper sticker intellects just blindly parroted the manufactured bullshit because of the ignorance upon which their propagandists heavily depend.

We owed Iran a $400 million refund for military weapons which they purchased and paid for which we never delivered.

They have received the refund.

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money, tards!

well we actually owed them more than that - and frankly we got a good deal.

we took their $400 million and just parked it when at the minimum it should have been put into federal bonds. so we actually did very well on the deal

This resolution that we agreed to was to return the $400 million and also to pay about $1 billion in interest. Now, the reason that this ends up being a very good deal for taxpayers is that our exposure, when it came to paying interest, could have been much higher. The Iranians were actually seeking $7 billion to $8 billion in interest payments. And I think that's an indication of how the interests of taxpayers were very well served by reaching this settlement.

 

[TooTall]

You do mean Israel broker a deal for the missiles and Iran PAID for the missiles. Getting money from Iran is a lot different than giving them money.

It violated the law, period.

AND AGAIN, THE MONEY GIVEN TO IRAN WAS THEIR OWN MONEY.

Then why'd Barry pay em in foreign currency?

Cuz it would be against the law to use US Dollars.

Obama Launders Iran Ransom Money

the cash sanctions were lifted in January ...

The fact that the money was physically sent to Iran in various currencies rather than simply transferred by wire may seem odd in the context of the United States' increasingly cashless society, but that was done in order to avoid existing Treasury Department sanctions that banned the use of American currency in transactions with Iran, and international sanctions which at that time kept Iran from accessing the global financial markets (and which were lifted in January 2016

Yeah.

Weird.

Okay.


Tell me something we don't know. So Obama si.......Reagan no.

Obama paid money to Iran si

Reagan got paid money from Iran si.

 

[TooTall]

OP .... debunked !

next.

The only thing "debunked" in this thread is your credibility. But then again - that was debunked a looooooong time ago. Obama got caught and you people still can't bring yourselves to admit it. You must really love the taste of Obama's dick because you won't take it out of your mouth for even 10 seconds.

It's over junior. He got caught. You just sound like an idiot attempting to defend the indefensible. This is literally as stupid as if the Orlando nightclub shooter's parents attempted to claim their son didn't shoot anyone and was just another unarmed victim there.

because youre slow, one more time just for you ..

While the timing could appear to have been a suspiciously coordinated quid pro quo, the evidence points to a paper trail of years of exhaustive hearings and highly sensitive negotiations that were completely separate from the January 2016 prisoner exchange.

Because you're a blind, obedient, little puppet.....one more time just for you:

All of this nonsense just happens to coincide with the release of hostages? And we just happened to fly it out on unmarked planes in the middle of the night instead of doing a simple wire transfer? And you still have yet to explain what in the hell we were doing with $400 million of Iran's money to begin with (nor have you explained why the currency wasn't even Iranian)?

Here is even CNN (not exactly a bastion of conservatism) noting how shady the entire thing is. For staters, the official libtard narrative of "it was Iran's money" doesn't explain what we were doing with it or why the currency isn't even Iranian!!!

Washington (CNN)The Obama administration secretly arranged a plane delivery of $400 million in cash on the same day Iran released four American prisoners and formally implemented the nuclear deal, US officials confirmed Wednesday.

President Barack Obama approved the $400 million transfer, which he had announced in January as part of the Iran nuclear deal. The money was flown into Iran on wooden pallets stacked with Swiss francs, euros and other currencies.

US sent plane with $400 million in cash to Iran - CNNPolitics.com

Keep sucking really hard Siete. Not only is Obama laughing at you, but he loves the job you're doing.

The world trades in Euros and dollars. Even Iranians, idiot.

It was Iran's money.

Returning Iran their money was part of the nuclear agreement. If you fucking tards had actually read the agreement you would know that. All caught up now?

Remember when you all whined that the hostages weren't part of the nuclear agreement? And now that we have them back, you STILL whine.

Retards.

I am glad you mentioned retards andi idiots. Do you recognize this?

"The world trades in Euros and dollars. Even Iranians, idiot."

 

[JBond]

What the fuck is wrong with you assholes. IT WAS IRAN'S MONEY. NOT OURS. What is it you don't get????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

They forfeited it when they decided to act as a state sponsor for terrorism. What don't you get???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Should we give the frozen money back to Russia?

 

[ogibillm]

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money.

Looks like the tards are stumped. Their propaganda ministers invented the "ransom" and the bumper sticker intellects just blindly parroted the manufactured bullshit because of the ignorance upon which their propagandists heavily depend.

We owed Iran a $400 million refund for military weapons which they purchased and paid for which we never delivered.

They have received the refund.

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money, tards!

well we actually owed them more than that - and frankly we got a good deal.

we took their $400 million and just parked it when at the minimum it should have been put into federal bonds. so we actually did very well on the deal

This resolution that we agreed to was to return the $400 million and also to pay about $1 billion in interest. Now, the reason that this ends up being a very good deal for taxpayers is that our exposure, when it came to paying interest, could have been much higher. The Iranians were actually seeking $7 billion to $8 billion in interest payments. And I think that's an indication of how the interests of taxpayers were very well served by reaching this settlement.

exactly. there would have been no logical reason for us not putting the funds into treasury bonds - and given the rates in 1979 we would have owed far more than we negotiated.

we definitely made out on the deal

 

[JBond]

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money.

Looks like the tards are stumped. Their propaganda ministers invented the "ransom" and the bumper sticker intellects just blindly parroted the manufactured bullshit because of the ignorance upon which their propagandists heavily depend.

We owed Iran a $400 million refund for military weapons which they purchased and paid for which we never delivered.

They have received the refund.

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money, tards!

well we actually owed them more than that - and frankly we got a good deal.

we took their $400 million and just parked it when at the minimum it should have been put into federal bonds. so we actually did very well on the deal

This resolution that we agreed to was to return the $400 million and also to pay about $1 billion in interest. Now, the reason that this ends up being a very good deal for taxpayers is that our exposure, when it came to paying interest, could have been much higher. The Iranians were actually seeking $7 billion to $8 billion in interest payments. And I think that's an indication of how the interests of taxpayers were very well served by reaching this settlement.

exactly. there would have been no logical reason for us not putting the funds into treasury bonds - and given the rates in 1979 we would have owed far more than we negotiated.

we definitely made out on the deal

The Supreme Court said all frozen funds were to go to the survivors of Iranian terrorism. Obama sued on behalf of the survivors and Ginsberg wrote the opinion. That is what should have happened. Giving money to terrorists is a bad idea. We didn't own them crap. They attacked us. Stupid liberals.

 

[ogibillm]

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money.

Looks like the tards are stumped. Their propaganda ministers invented the "ransom" and the bumper sticker intellects just blindly parroted the manufactured bullshit because of the ignorance upon which their propagandists heavily depend.

We owed Iran a $400 million refund for military weapons which they purchased and paid for which we never delivered.

They have received the refund.

Please explain how a ransom is paid using their own money, tards!

well we actually owed them more than that - and frankly we got a good deal.

we took their $400 million and just parked it when at the minimum it should have been put into federal bonds. so we actually did very well on the deal

This resolution that we agreed to was to return the $400 million and also to pay about $1 billion in interest. Now, the reason that this ends up being a very good deal for taxpayers is that our exposure, when it came to paying interest, could have been much higher. The Iranians were actually seeking $7 billion to $8 billion in interest payments. And I think that's an indication of how the interests of taxpayers were very well served by reaching this settlement.

exactly. there would have been no logical reason for us not putting the funds into treasury bonds - and given the rates in 1979 we would have owed far more than we negotiated.

we definitely made out on the deal

The Supreme Court said all frozen funds were to go to the survivors of Iranian terrorism.

nope

 

[TooTall]

Iran-Contra & Ronald Reagan.
Next.

How much money did Reagan give to Iran?

He sold them 1,500 missiles, in direct violation of the arms embargo law.

" Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents."

Iran–Contra affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[g5000]

Iran-Contra & Ronald Reagan.
Next.

How much money did Reagan give to Iran?

He sold them 1,500 missiles, in direct violation of the arms embargo law.

" Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents."

Iran–Contra affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The administration refused to declassify certain documents.

Gee, I wonder why...

 

[TooTall]

Iran-Contra & Ronald Reagan.
Next.

How much money did Reagan give to Iran?

He sold them 1,500 missiles, in direct violation of the arms embargo law.

" Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents."

Iran–Contra affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The administration refused to declassify certain documents.

Gee, I wonder why...

It does remind you of the Obama Administrationfast and furious and Hillary's emails does it not?